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- From centsitive@gmail.com Fri Aug 14 09:47:08 2009
Return-Path: <centsitive@gmail.com> X-Sender: centsitive@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 76143 invoked from network); 14 Aug 2009 16:47:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.200) by m5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Aug 2009 16:47:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail-vw0-f201.google.com) (209.85.212.201) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Aug 2009 16:47:07 -0000 X-Received: by vws39 with SMTP id 39so1457624vws.17 for <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:46:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.94.8 with SMTP id x8mr2352008vcm.53.1250268367532; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:46:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1a8bee530908132133s5fa19632s27b6e7fe0ef8a6ca@mail.gmail.com> References: <1a8bee530908132133s5fa19632s27b6e7fe0ef8a6ca@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:46:07 -0700 Message-ID: <1a8bee530908140946m3e05b223g3b57578e7de5c00@mail.gmail.com> To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 209.85.212.201 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Randy Clark <centsitive@gmail.com> Subject: Re: When Counterfeits are Displaced X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=384232076; y=FtO2Jp07hBhh6PUCfINGvpinD3mIRYvcCQEUkpt348Wg_A0 X-Yahoo-Profile: p6763cla
The reason I thought this interesting is threefold.
First, it discusses the loss of good silver in exchange for counterfeit coppers, which is an interesting economic effect I hadn't considered. If the counterfeits are domestic it might be less of an issue, but for imported counterfeits I can see that would be a big problem over time.
Second, I had not considered the impact of sweeping out counterfeit coppers - in terms of mechants getting stuck holding "the bag" with an inventory of counterfeits no longer accepted, or at least devalued. That must have been seen to some extent in Connecticut with their new coppers ... probably MA, NJ, VT as well. But I don't have proof the counterfeilt coppers already in circulation were no longer accepted.
Last, this article is reported in CT, but originated in Philly. Who was the "ingenious man" referred to in Philadelphia and where did he end up ?
-rc
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Randy Clark<centsitive@gmail.com> wrote: > From the August 15, 1785 American Mercury Newspaper, Hartford, CT. > > Philadelphia (Aug 2) > The vast increase of counterfeit coppers > in this state, though it may, at the first > view, appear an object of small moment, > merits the attention of the community, > particularly the trading world. The > immense profit made by the traffic of > bringing over this vile trash, is so strong > an inducement, that unless proper steps > are taken to prevent it, the remaining silver > money of the country will be drained away > for it, at one third of its value. It will then > become necessary for the legislature to > interfere: their circulation will probably > be stopped, and every person will suffer > the loss of as many of them as remain in > his hands. It frequently happens, on a > new copper coinage for Ireland, when the > base coin, which had been in circulation, > becomes generally refused, that individuals, > in retailing branches of business, lose > twenty, thirty, forty, fifty, sixty and sometimes > even a hundred pounds, by the quantity remaining > with them. There is an ingenious man in this > city, who understands perfectly well the > management of a mint, and if properly > encouraged, could, with a very small sum > of money, commence a copper coinage, > which would be equal to genuine British > coppers, and besides be giving employment > to several working people,would save the > country the sums of money at present > drawn away for coppers, as well genuine > as counterfeit. > > -rc >
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