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Hey! What do you expect! Its only been 210 years or so since the last NJ Ce= nt was minted, and according to this eBay Seller, not all known varieties h= ave been discovered yet; not even close. . . . Yeah! Right! Perhaps true in= some Star Trek episode I missed back in the day. Sounds to me like an inco= mpetent was ineptly masking their incompetency with brain flatulence with a= pinch of bovine scatology, and a lot of that special brand of smoke some o= f you had at a Texas BBQ about a year or so ago!=20
John N. Lupia III
New Jersey, USA; Beirut, Lebanon=20
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Roman-Catholic-News/
God Bless Everyone
--- On Thu, 9/3/09, David Fanning <dfanning@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
From: David Fanning <dfanning@columbus.rr.com> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Fw: You've received an answer to your = question about item US 1787 New Jersey copper, F/VF To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 9:23 AM
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I hope Roger and Jack have been alerted to the exponential increase in the = number of NJ varieties. Looks like they have their work cut out for them.
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On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 7:43 AM, Ray Williams <njraywms@optonline.net> wrote= :
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From: Steve Frank=20 Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 7:01 AM To: Colonial Coins=20 Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Fw: You've received an answer to=20 your question about item US 1787 New Jersey copper, F/VF
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Interesting response.....I made the mistake of letting him know the=20 coin was a maris 64-t.....<s>
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That type is certainly on my short list. I=20 THINK you all miss how this works: there are=20 hundreds, if not=20 thousands of combined die issues, many ( not obvious ) are probably=20 unique. EACH minter combined WHATEVER working dies that he had availa= ble.=20 Specific TYPES are an approximation of the truth in these matters!
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"= top" style=3D"font: inherit;">Hey! What do you expect! Its only been 210 ye= ars or so since the last NJ Cent was minted, and according to this eBay Sel= ler, not all known varieties have been discovered yet; not even close. . . = . Yeah! Right! Perhaps true in some Star Trek episode I missed back in the = day. Sounds to me like an incompetent was ineptly masking their incompetenc= y with brain flatulence with a pinch of bovine scatology, and a lot of that= special brand of smoke some of you had at a Texas BBQ about a year or so a= go! <br><br>John N. Lupia III<br> New Jersey, USA; Beirut, Lebanon <br> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Roman-Catholic-News/<br> God Bless Everyone<br><br>--- On <b>Thu, 9/3/09, David Fanning <i><dfann= ing@columbus.rr.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style=3D"border-left:= 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From= : David Fanning <dfanning@columbus.rr.com><br>Subject: Re: [Colonial = Numismatics] Fw: You've received an answer to your question about item US = 1787 New Jersey copper, F/VF<br>To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com<br>Date:= Thursday, September 3, 2009, 9:23 AM<br><br><div id=3D"yiv1473300152">
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I hope Roger and Jack have been alerted to the exponential increase in the = number of NJ varieties. Looks like they have their work cut out for them.<b= r><br>df<br><br>-- <br>David F. Fanning Numismatic Literature<br>PO Box 132= 422<br> Columbus, OH 43213<br>(614) 256-8915<br><a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blan= k" href=3D"http://www.fanningbooks.com">www.fanningbooks.com</a><br><br><di= v class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 7:43 AM, Ray Williams <span = dir=3D"ltr"><<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:njraywms@optonline.ne= t" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Dnjraywms@optonline.net">njray= wms@optonline.net</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, = 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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</p><div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Steve,</font></div> <div> <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Obviously Craf= ts1331 is an=20 expert in colonial numismatics and I would be sure of your facts before cal= ling=20 him to task. You didn't know that "Specific TYPES are an approximatio= n of=20 the truth"?????</font></div> <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Ray LOL! </font></div> <div style=3D"font-family: Tahoma; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal= ; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adju= st: none; font-stretch: normal;"> <div><br></div> <div style=3D"background: rgb(245, 245, 245) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz= -background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-= inline-policy: continuous;"> <div><b>From:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow" title=3D"mailto:taxi_steve929@yahoo.c= om CTRL + Click to follow link" ymailto=3D"mailto:taxi_steve929@yahoo.com" tar= get=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Dtaxi_steve929@yahoo.com">Steve Fran= k</a> </div> <div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 03, 2009 7:01 AM</div> <div><b>To:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow" title=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogro= ups.com CTRL + Click to follow link" ymailto=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.c= om" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Dcolonial-coins@yahoogroups.c= om">Colonial Coins</a> </div> <div><b>Subject:</b> [Colonial Numismatics] Fw: You've received an answer t= o=20 your question about item US 1787 New Jersey copper, F/VF</div></div></div> <div><br></div><span> </span>=20 <div> <p> </p><div style=3D"font-size: 14pt; font-family: times new roman,new york,ti= mes,serif;"> <div>Interesting response.....I made the mistake of letting him know the=20 coin was a maris 64-t.....<s><br></div> <div style=3D"font-size: 14pt; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,= serif;"><br> <div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,= serif;"><font face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">----- Forwarded Message ----<br><b= ><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> eBay Member: crafts133= 1 <<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:member@ebay.com" target=3D"_bla= nk" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Dmember@ebay.com">member@ebay.com</a>><br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a rel=3D"nofollow" ym= ailto=3D"mailto:taxi_steve929@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/comp= ose?to=3Dtaxi_steve929@yahoo.com">taxi_steve929@yahoo.com</a><br><b><span s= tyle=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, September 1, 2009 8:0= 7:34=20 PM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> You've rece= ived an=20 answer to your question about item US 1787 New Jersey copper,=20 F/VF<br></font><br> <div></div> <div></div> <div> <div> <table border=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" width=3D"100%"> <tbody> <tr> <td width=3D"100%"> <table border=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"2" cellspacing=3D"3" width=3D"100%= "> <tbody> <tr> <td nowrap=3D"nowrap"><img alt=3D"eBay" src=3D"http://pics.ebayst= atic.com/aw/pics/logos/ebay_95x39.gif" height=3D"39" width=3D"95"></td> <td align=3D"left" valign=3D"bottom"><span style=3D"font-weight: = bold; font-size: xx-small; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: verdana,= sans-serif;"><b>eBay=20 sent this message to Steven Frank=20 (taxi-steve).</b><br></span><span style=3D"font-size: xx-small;= color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: verdana,sans-serif;">Your=20 registered name is included to show this message originated fro= m=20 eBay. <a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://page= s.ebay.com/help/confidence/name-userid-emails.html">Learn=20 more</a>.</span></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></d= iv></div> <div> <div> <table style=3D"background-color: rgb(255, 230, 128);" border=3D"0" cellpad= ding=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" width=3D"100%"> <tbody> <tr> <td valign=3D"top" width=3D"8"><img src=3D"http://pics.ebaystatic.com/a= w/pics/globalAssets/ltCurve.gif" height=3D"8" width=3D"8"></td> <td valign=3D"bottom" width=3D"100%"><span style=3D"font-weight: bold; = font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Selle= r=20 has responded to your question about this item</span></td> <td align=3D"right" valign=3D"top" width=3D"8"><img src=3D"http://pics.= ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/globalAssets/rtCurve.gif" height=3D"8" width=3D"8"><= /td></tr> <tr> <td style=3D"background-color: rgb(255, 204, 0);" colspan=3D"3" height= =3D"4"><br></td></tr></tbody></table> <table style=3D"border: 1px solid rgb(255, 204, 0);" border=3D"0" cellpaddi= ng=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" width=3D"100%"> <tbody> <tr> <td><img src=3D"http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/icon/iconAlert_32x32= .gif" height=3D"32" width=3D"32"></td> <td style=3D"font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial,s= ans-serif;">Do=20 not respond to the sender if this message requests that you complete = the=20 transaction outside of eBay. This type of offer is against eBay polic= y,=20 may be fraudulent, and is not covered by buyer protection programs. <= a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://pages.ebay.com/help/pol= icies/rfe-spam-non-ebay-sale.html">Learn More</a>.</td> <td><br></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <div></div> <div></div> <div> <div> <table border=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"2" cellspacing=3D"3" width=3D"100%"> <tbody> <tr> <td><font style=3D"font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: a= rial,sans-serif;"><b>Dear=20 taxi-steve,</b><br><br>That type is certainly on my short list. I=20 THINK you all miss how this works: there are <br>hundreds, if not=20 thousands of combined die issues, many ( not obvious ) are probably=20 unique. EACH minter combined WHATEVER working dies that he had availa= ble.=20 Specific TYPES are an approximation of the truth in these matters!<br= ><br> <div style=3D"font-weight: bold; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0)= ; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">-=20 crafts1331</div></font></td> <td valign=3D"top" width=3D"185"> <div><span style=3D"font-weight: bold; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0,= 0, 0); font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><b>Did=20 this answer your question? If not, let the seller know.</b></span>=20 <table border=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" width=3D"100%= "> <tbody> <tr> <td><img src=3D"http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gif" height= =3D"4"></td></tr></tbody></table><a rel=3D"nofollow" title=3D"http://contac= t.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?M2MContact&item=3D320415246571&requeste= d=3Dcrafts1331&qid=3D656962677&redirect=3D0&ssPageName=3DADME:X= :RTQ:US:1159" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://contact.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP= I.dll?M2MContact&item=3D320415246571&requested=3Dcrafts1331&qid= =3D656962677&redirect=3D0&ssPageName=3DADME:X:RTQ:US:1159"><img tit= le=3D"http://contact.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?M2MContact&item=3D320415= 246571&requested=3Dcrafts1331&qid=3D656962677&redirect=3D0&= ssPageName=3DADME:X:RTQ:US:1159 CTRL + Click to follow link" src=3D"http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/butt= ons/btnRespond.gif" border=3D"0" height=3D"32" width=3D"120"></a><br><span = style=3D"font-size: 8pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: italic; font-fami= ly: arial,sans-serif;"></span></div> </td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <div></div> <div></div> <div></div> <div></div> <div> <div> <table border=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"3" width=3D"100%"> <tbody> <tr> <td nowrap=3D"nowrap" valign=3D"top"><a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_bla= nk" href=3D"http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D320415= 246571&ssPageName=3DADME:X:RTQ:US:1123"><img title=3D"http://cgi.ebay.c= om/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D320415246571&ssPageName=3DADME:= X:RTQ:US:1123 CTRL + Click to follow link" alt=3D"US 1787 New Jersey copper, F/VF" src=3D= "http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/pict/320415246571.jpg" border=3D"0"></a></td> <td colspan=3D"2" valign=3D"top"> <table border=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" width=3D"100%= "> <tbody> <tr> <td style=3D"font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: a= rial,sans-serif;" colspan=3D"2"><a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href= =3D"http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D320415246571&a= mp;ssPageName=3DADME:X:RTQ:US:1123">US 1787 New Jersey copper, F/VF</a></td= > </tr> <tr> <td style=3D"font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: a= rial,sans-serif;" nowrap=3D"nowrap" valign=3D"top">Item Id:</td> <td style=3D"font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: a= rial,sans-serif;" valign=3D"top">320415246571</td></tr> <tr> <td style=3D"font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: a= rial,sans-serif;" nowrap=3D"nowrap" valign=3D"top">End time:</td> <td style=3D"font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: a= rial,sans-serif;" valign=3D"top">Sep-01-09 17:59:03 PDT</td></tr> <tr> <td valign=3D"top"> <table border=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"
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