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Ok Skip, Here's the scoop. Your Lion Daalder is a nice example of Delmonte 861. A stunning example of this variety is plated on plate 39 of the book. There is another dated Daalder of this type - 1597. The dateless version is a R-1 (on a scale of R thru R4) which is "rare". The dated version is an R-3, which is extremely rare. These coins were the world trade coins before the Spanish took that title. Most certainly these coins circulated freely in New Amsterdam, as well as the British colonies of the time. Have some fun with it - it's a nice type coin. Ray
From: Skip Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:44 PM To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Next problem: Lion Dollar
Here's the pics.
----- Original Message ----- From: skipperooski To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:38 PM Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Next problem: Lion Dollar
I've had this Lion Dollar for a few years and get it out every once in a while to try and attribute it, each time with no success. It has no date and I can't seem to find an exact match anywhere. It has HOL in the legend which I assume is Holland but all the pieces listed in my Krause 17th century catalog are dated, the earliest being 1601. Might this be pre 1600? Any help? Pictures to follow. Thanks.
Skip
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<META content="MSHTML 6.00.6001.18349" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=MailContainerBody style="PADDING-RIGHT: 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 10px; PADDING-TOP: 15px; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff" bgColor=#ffffff leftMargin=0 topMargin=0 CanvasTabStop="true" name="Compose message area"> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ok Skip,</FONT></DIV> <DIV> <FONT face=Arial size=2>Here's the scoop. Your Lion Daalder is a nice example of Delmonte 861. A stunning example of this variety is plated on plate 39 of the book. There is another dated Daalder of this type - 1597. The dateless version is a R-1 (on a scale of R thru R4) which is "rare". The dated version is an R-3, which is extremely rare. </FONT></DIV> <DIV> <FONT face=Arial size=2>These coins were the world trade coins before the Spanish took that title. Most certainly these coins circulated freely in New Amsterdam, as well as the British colonies of the time. Have some fun with it - it's a nice type coin.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ray</FONT></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Tahoma"> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5"> <DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=skipper@nycap.rr.com href="mailto:skipper@nycap.rr.com">Skip</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:44 PM</DIV> <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com href="mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Next problem: Lion Dollar</DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Here's the pics.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=skipper@nycap.rr.com href="mailto:skipper@nycap.rr.com">skipperooski</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com href="mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:38 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Colonial Numismatics] Next problem: Lion Dollar</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><SPAN style="DISPLAY: none"> </SPAN> <DIV id=ygrp-text> <P>I've had this Lion Dollar for a few years and get it out every once in a while to try and attribute it, each time with no success. It has no date and I can't seem to find an exact match anywhere. It has HOL in the legend which I assume is Holland but all the pieces listed in my Krause 17th century catalog are dated, the earliest being 1601. Might this be pre 1600? Any help? Pictures to follow. Thanks.<BR><BR>Skip<BR><BR></P></DIV><!-- end group email --> <DIV style="CLEAR: both; COLOR: white" width="1"></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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