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From: Ray Williams <njraywms@optonline.net>
Subject: Vernon Medal Picture
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Hi Guys!
Here's the Vernon Medal Pictures.
Ray
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From: "Ray Williams" <njraywms@optonline.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 3:30 PM
To: <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Admiral Vernon medal - need Betts number
> I was asked for a picture of the medal I have, and I took one. But I
> need to wait for Diane to share it with the group. It needs to be loaded
> into one computer, then sent to another computer, then I have to find it.
> Once found, then I can take over and put it in an email. Admiral Vernon
> seems like he was a character! I understand that there was such respect
> for
> him by G Washington that he named Mt Vernon after him. Being that a book
> will be out soon, it might be appropriate to see if we can get a speaker
> on
> Vernon Medals to talk at C4... I know that the number of medal collectors
> among us is small, but there is a lot of history displayed in them and
> motivating their production. Admiral Vernon was the Schwarzkopf of his
> day!
> Just a brief story as I understand it... The Spanish were raiding
> British ships on the high seas (low seas too) and taking supplies & men.
> Admiral Vernon was a bit of a blowhard <sp> and bragged to Parliament that
> if they gave him six ships, he would capture Portobella. So he was given
> ships, more than six. But when he went into Portobella, he left the
> excess
> ships behind and took only six ships into the harbor and captured it.
> This
> superhuman feat made him a super hero to the British and restored pride in
> their country. If anyone can contribute to this, please do.
>
> Ray
>
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> From: <palmers4@rcn.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 2:18 PM
> To: <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Admiral Vernon medal - need Betts
> number
>
>> Part of the problemn with Vernon medals is that as you say they often
>> come
>> with "problems" lower grade, enviromental damage, etc. The more problems
>> the harder it is to distinguish between the varieties. Some are one of a
>> kind type, others, there are literally many that look much alike. They
>> are
>> an interesting series to collect. David
>>
>>
>> Original Message:
>> -----------------
>> From: Ray Williams njraywms@optonline.net
>> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 07:54:02 -0500
>> To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Admiral Vernon medal - need Betts
>> number
>>
>>
>> Steve,
>> The new reference book on Admiral Vernon Medals has been written and I
>> hope will be published in April. With respect to the medal you wanted a
>> Betts number on, I can't read the legends and the Betts book does not
>> have
>> images of all the medals. I can't help. There are a LOT of Vernon
>> Medals.
>> I picked up one at the C4 Convention as a type medal. The Vernon Medals
>> usually have planchet/strike/abuse type damage, but the one I bought is a
>> very nice representation!
>>
>> Ray
>>
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>> From: "Steve Frank" <taxi_steve929@yahoo.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 1:28 AM
>> To: "Colonial Coins" <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Admiral Vernon medal - need Betts number
>>
>>> I don't have Betts...I see it's online, but before I tangle with that, I
>>> was wondering if anyone can give me the Betts number for MG76. I found a
>>> site that shows a very nice group of the Portobello medals,
>>> http://www.neocollect.com/coll/136/ and matched the attached to MG76
>> shown
>>> on page 3 of the above link.
>>>
>>> I figure someone here might collect these, and researching this medal
>>> looking through auction catalogs, it seems the Betts number is still the
>>> most used.
>>>
>>> BTW, I read the piece John Adams wrote, pretty much a detailed
>>> bibliography, with ratings for all of the known publications listing
>>> Vernon medal varieties. What Metallic Illustrations wrote about these
>>> medals actually had me laughing with some of the things they said about
>>> the medals in general. John Adams goes on to say, to the affect,
>>> thankfully, the cataloger took the medals more seriously and gave very
>>> detailed descriptions of each....I think at the time there were 96
>>> varieties. (The link to the John Adams work is below. You can see what I
>>> referred to by clicking the link and scrolling down to page 5, #4 in the
>>> list of studies done on the Vernon medals.
>>>
>>>
>> http://www.medalcollectors.org/Members'%20Corner/The%20Medals%20Of%20Admiral
>> %20Vernon.pdf
>>>
>>> I'd appreciate any info, public or private, from the medal people.<s>
>>> Thanks!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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