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Remember Marc! This is like Springsteen concert tickets....it will only be = available to the first to respond, and this Kleeberg Z1 reverse thingy is n= o exception when I put it up on the new buy/sell/trade sight//////and as I = did with others, it will be cheap in many eyes.....do I think this coin is = worth 300 dollars??? I don't know, but I will guarantee that it will be pla= ced on the sight, with new obverse/Z1 at less than 160 dollars with NO earl= y birds!! Only the first to respnd to the sale will be the one to receive..= ...
--- On Fri, 3/19/10, marc <marcm@sunflower.com> wrote:
From: marc <marcm@sunflower.com> Subject: Re: [Span-Am-coins] RE: [Colonial Numismatics] z1 To: Span-Am-coins@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, March 19, 2010, 7:33 PM
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=EF=BB=BF=20 What diffence does that make? <s> Why do you ask,=C2=A0 are you? I'm just s= aying I have an extra cat.that I will get rid off only if you can't find an= other. I don't understand your question. Marc
----- Original Message -----=20 From: taxi_steve929@ yahoo.com=20 To: Span-Am-coins@ yahoogroups. com=20 Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 17:18 Subject: Re: [Span-Am-coins] RE: [Colonial Numismatics] z1
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You drunk again!=20 Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
From: "marc" <marcm@sunflower. com>=20 Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:12:10 -0600 To: <Span-Am-coins@ yahoogroups. com> Subject: Re: [Span-Am-coins] RE: [Colonial Numismatics] z1
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=EF=BB=BF=20 Steve, Let me know if you can't get one. I purchased one on ebay and don't really = want to part with it, but will, if you can't find another.I was saving it f= or my Spanish friends [vbg] Marc
----- Original Message -----=20 From: Steve Frank=20 To: colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com=20 Cc: Spanish American Group=20 Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 12:12 Subject: [Span-Am-coins] RE: [Colonial Numismatics] z1
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1 last photo, a compare that I showed to a couple of friends, and it was po= inted out that the only difference seemed to be the denticles, which I have= since blown up, and counted the tips and distance covered to pretty much a= ssure that this is due strictly to a combo of wear and strike with emphasis= on wear. I am using the Stacks photo which is sub-par, and I don't blame t= hem because top photo's on line would not sell catalogs, a great expense an= d something I've learned from my english hammered group is not only a huge = expense, but part of business...I know Stacks was kind enough to send me a = couple catalogs, but my buying doesn't come close to the cost of putting th= em together, and I appreciate what they did.=20 =C2=A0 Does anyone have a Schaumburg catalog for sale?? Between the 2 reales and t= he counterfeit gold, it is something I can really use in my current directi= on. I'll try Stacks and see if they have any extra's lying around I can pur= chase too. =C2=A0 Anyway...I would like to find the buyer and see a nice large photo of the c= oin won, and I will exchange photo's of this once I visit my excellent phot= ographer and great friend, Roger M....if you have never seen the details of= a great photo (8MB for just the obverse), you really don't realize all tha= t you're missing...every little drop of metal...like looking through a micr= oscope without the eye strain!!=20 =C2=A0 The edge is good, and the weight by my scale which always seems to come up = a hair high is 6.02 grams.=20 =C2=A0 If you read the Stacks description, you'll see some of the cause from my ex= citement at the find, and realize my huge respect for the cataloger's incit= e, which I know is something I don't think I can ever have like John or tho= se who are deeply involved with these. My area now is 8 reales, with some t= ype stuff for the other denominations, and I'm very happy with my meager co= llection. I know I told Ray I would do something for him with assayers for = mints and years, but I have decided to back off of that project for a coupl= e of reasons. 1-It has been done already somewhere, and whoever is interest= ed can dig it out and use it rather than re-invent the wheel as I did. 2-I = don't think people really learn from something like this dropped in their l= ap...they will get much more out of it having to do the leg work, 3-Having = done the leg work, and this being a still new area as far as the 8 reales, = I'm just not ready to share with such a small collection, and I apologize, but that is the truth....in a few months or a year, I will prob= ably feel different, but right now it's still cheap, and I want to keep it = that way because I just started collecting these and I don't know where els= e to turn if I get priced out of these, and I hope everyone understands thi= s. I don't want competition yet....maybe when I get back to work I will pos= t more, but not now....sorry Ray....I have some people waiting for money, a= nd I really have to take care of them first...I have placed a no buy under = any circumstance for the next month, and I've had some great offers from fr= iends I've made overseas with the Spanish counterfeits, but they understand= my situation... once I'm "Paid in full", I will start buying again...I do = have a lot of stuff to sell that will easily take care of my current debt, = but without good pics, I'll lose money, so am waiting until that can be don= e. I'm sure that others in the Span-Am group cringed when they read the post where I said no problem on the assayer request<s>>...it will happ= en, but not by me now.=20 =C2=A0 BTW, the edge is good....circles and rectangles or squares.....
--- On Fri, 3/19/10, Steve Frank <taxi_steve929@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Steve Frank <taxi_steve929@ yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [Colonial Numismatics] z1 To: colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com Cc: "Spanish American Group" <Span-Am-coins@ yahoogroups. com> Date: Friday, March 19, 2010, 1:31 PM
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Thanks David, Just stopped home for a second and Marc had emailed me to the= phone that I posted here...was going to be a C4NL blurb after I contacted = John about this, but the cat outta the bag, I guess not....since it is, the= last digit until I can get a photo looks like a possible 8, if anyone has = an obverse match....his description therefore in the schaumburg sale is ver= y eeriely true...I guess he's seen enough to make that educated assumption = as the obv matches the rev on my coin as far as punches and what style shou= ld be...so I'm forwarding this to the sp am group in hopes that JK does see= this. (If anything important was said, I would have deleted it from the fo= rward, but it is just a post without comment, so I don't feel cross posting= should be a problem...unless going the other way from a closed group to op= en ie) (also why I'm posting the scan a 2nd time)
--- On Fri, 3/19/10, palmers4@rcn. com <palmers4@rcn. com> wrote:
From: palmers4@rcn. com <palmers4@rcn. com> Subject: RE: [Colonial Numismatics] z1 To: colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com Date: Friday, March 19, 2010, 1:15 PM
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Neat piece Steve. David
Original Message: ------------ ----- From: Steve Frank taxi_steve929@ yahoo.com Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 08:17:24 -0700 (PDT) To: colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] z1
here...I gotta run out the door and scanned this quick....i brightened it up a little so you can see it, but it's pretty much the same and the other, copper-nickel I guess?? If John Kraljevich(sp? ?) did the catalog as i thin= k he did he hit it on the head..I'll call you later...( colonial people gotta get easy to remember name changes like frank<s> later buddy!!
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"= top" style=3D"font: inherit;">Remember Marc! This is like Springsteen conce= rt tickets....it will only be available to the first to respond, and this K= leeberg Z1 reverse thingy is no exception when I put it up on the new buy/s= ell/trade sight//////and as I did with others, it will be cheap in many eye= s.....do I think this coin is worth 300 dollars??? I don't know, but I will= guarantee that it will be placed on the sight, with new obverse/Z1 at less= than 160 dollars with NO early birds!! Only the first to respnd to the sal= e will be the one to receive.....<BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 3/19/10, marc <I>&l= t;marcm@sunflower.com></I></B> wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5= px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: marc <marcm@sunflower.com><BR>Subject= : Re: [Span-Am-coins] RE: [Colonial Numismatics] z1<BR>To: Span-Am-coins@ya= hoogroups.com<BR>Date: Friday, March 19, 2010, 7:33 PM<BR><BR> <DIV id=3Dyiv183712998><SPAN style=3D"DISPLAY: none"> </SPAN>=20 <DIV id=3Dygrp-text> <DIV>=EF=BB=BF=20 <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>What diffence does that make? <s> Wh= y do you ask, are you? I'm just saying I have an extra cat.that I wil= l get rid off only if you can't find another. I don't understand your quest= ion.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Marc</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A title= =3Dtaxi_steve929@yahoo.com href=3D"http://us.mc844.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compos= e?to=3Dtaxi_steve929@yahoo.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"m= ailto:taxi_steve929@yahoo.com">taxi_steve929@ yahoo.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3DSpan-Am-coins@yahoogr= oups.com href=3D"http://us.mc844.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3DSpan-Am-coi= ns@yahoogroups.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"mailto:Span-A= m-coins@yahoogroups.com">Span-Am-coins@ yahoogroups. com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 19, 2010 17:18</= DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Span-Am-coins] RE: [Co= lonial Numismatics] z1</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><SPAN> </SPAN>=20 <DIV id=3Dygrp-text> <DIV>You drunk again!=20 <DIV>Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T</DIV> <HR>
<DIV><B>From: </B>"marc" <<A href=3D"http://us.mc844.mail.yahoo.com/mc/c= ompose?to=3Dmarcm@sunflower.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"= mailto:marcm@sunflower.com">marcm@sunflower. com</A>> </DIV> <DIV><B>Date: </B>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:12:10 -0600</DIV> <DIV><B>To: </B><<A href=3D"http://us.mc844.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to= =3DSpan-Am-coins@yahoogroups.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D= "mailto:Span-Am-coins@yahoogroups.com">Span-Am-coins@ yahoogroups. com</A>&= gt;</DIV> <DIV><B>Subject: </B>Re: [Span-Am-coins] RE: [Colonial Numismatics] z1</DIV= > <DIV><BR></DIV><SPAN> </SPAN>=20 <DIV id=3Dygrp-text> <DIV>=EF=BB=BF=20 <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Steve,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Let me know if you can't get one. I purcha= sed one on ebay and don't really want to part with it, but will, if you can= 't find another.I was saving it for my Spanish friends [vbg]</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Marc</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A title= =3Dtaxi_steve929@yahoo.com href=3D"http://us.mc844.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compos= e?to=3Dtaxi_steve929@yahoo.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"m= ailto:taxi_steve929@yahoo.com">Steve Frank</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dcolonial-coins@yahoog= roups.com href=3D"http://us.mc844.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dcolonial-c= oins@yahoogroups.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"mailto:colo= nial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=3DSpan-Am-coins@yahoogr= oups.com href=3D"http://us.mc844.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3DSpan-Am-coi= ns@yahoogroups.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"mailto:Span-A= m-coins@yahoogroups.com">Spanish American Group</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 19, 2010 12:12</= DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Span-Am-coins] RE: [Coloni= al Numismatics] z1</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><SPAN> </SPAN>=20 <DIV id=3Dygrp-text> <DIV> <TABLE border=3D0 cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD vAlign=3Dtop> <DIV id=3Dyiv2033370694> <DIV>1 last photo, a compare that I showed to a couple of friends, and it w= as pointed out that the only difference seemed to be the denticles, which I= have since blown up, and counted the tips and distance covered to pretty m= uch assure that this is due strictly to a combo of wear and strike with emp= hasis on wear. I am using the Stacks photo which is sub-par, and I don't bl= ame them because top photo's on line would not sell catalogs, a great expen= se and something I've learned from my english hammered group is not only a = huge expense, but part of business...I know Stacks was kind enough to send = me a couple catalogs, but my buying doesn't come close to the cost of putti= ng them together, and I appreciate what they did. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Does anyone have a Schaumburg catalog for sale?? Between the 2 reales = and the counterfeit gold, it is something I can really use in my current di= rection. I'll try Stacks and see if they have any extra's lying around I ca= n purchase too.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Anyway...I would like to find the buyer and see a nice large photo of = the coin won, and I will exchange photo's of this once I visit my excellent= photographer and great friend, Roger M....if you have never seen the detai= ls of a great photo (8MB for just the obverse), you really don't realize al= l that you're missing...every little drop of metal...like looking through a= microscope without the eye strain!! </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The edge is good, and the weight by my scale which always seems to com= e up a hair high is 6.02 grams. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If you read the Stacks description, you'll see some of the cause from = my excitement at the find, and realize my huge respect for the cataloger's = incite, which I know is something I don't think I can ever have like John o= r those who are deeply involved with these. My area now is 8 reales, with s= ome type stuff for the other denominations, and I'm very happy with my meag= er collection. I know I told Ray I would do something for him with assayers= for mints and years, but I have decided to back off of that project for a = couple of reasons. 1-It has been done already somewhere, and whoever is int= erested can dig it out and use it rather than re-invent the wheel as I did.= 2-I don't think people really learn from something like this dropped in th= eir lap...they will get much more out of it having to do the leg work, 3-Ha= ving done the leg work, and this being a still new area as far as the 8 rea= les, I'm just not ready to share with such a small collection, and I apologize, but that is the truth....in a few months or a year, I will prob= ably feel different, but right now it's still cheap, and I want to keep it = that way because I just started collecting these and I don't know where els= e to turn if I get priced out of these, and I hope everyone understands thi= s. I don't want competition yet....maybe when I get back to work I will pos= t more, but not now....sorry Ray....I have some people waiting for money, a= nd I really have to take care of them first...I have placed a no buy under = any circumstance for the next month, and I've had some great offers from fr= iends I've made overseas with the Spanish counterfeits, but they understand= my situation... once I'm "Paid in full", I will start buying again...I do = have a lot of stuff to sell that will easily take care of my current debt, = but without good pics, I'll lose money, so am waiting until that can be don= e. I'm sure that others in the Span-Am group cringed when they read the post where I said no problem on the assayer request<s>>...it = will happen, but not by me now. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>BTW, the edge is good....circles and rectangles or squares.....<BR><BR= >--- On <B>Fri, 3/19/10, Steve Frank <I><taxi_steve929@ yahoo.com></I= ></B> wrote:<BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Steve= Frank <taxi_steve929@ yahoo.com><BR>Subject: RE: [Colonial Numismati= cs] z1<BR>To: colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com<BR>Cc: "Spanish American Gro= up" <Span-Am-coins@ yahoogroups. com><BR>Date: Friday, March 19, 2010= , 1:31 PM<BR><BR> <DIV id=3Dyiv309350931><SPAN> </SPAN>=20 <DIV id=3Dygrp-text> <DIV> <TABLE border=3D0 cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>Thanks David, Just stopped home for a second and Marc had = emailed me to the phone that I posted here...was going to be a C4NL blurb a= fter I contacted John about this, but the cat outta the bag, I guess not...= .since it is, the last digit until I can get a photo looks like a possible = 8, if anyone has an obverse match....his description therefore in the schau= mburg sale is very eeriely true...I guess he's seen enough to make that edu= cated assumption as the obv matches the rev on my coin as far as punches an= d what style should be...so I'm forwarding this to the sp am group in hopes= that JK does see this. (If anything important was said, I would have delet= ed it from the forward, but it is just a post without comment, so I don't f= eel cross posting should be a problem...unless going the other way from a c= losed group to open ie) (also why I'm posting the scan a 2nd time)<BR><BR>-= -- On <B>Fri, 3/19/10, palmers4@rcn. com <I><palmers4@rcn. com></I></B> wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: palme= rs4@rcn. com <palmers4@rcn. com><BR>Subject: RE: [Colonial Numismatic= s] z1<BR>To: colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com<BR>Date: Friday, March 19, 20= 10, 1:15 PM<BR><BR> <DIV id=3Dyiv1498548157><SPAN> </SPAN>=20 <DIV id=3Dygrp-text> <DIV>Neat piece Steve. David<BR><BR>Original Message:<BR>------------ -----= <BR>From: Steve Frank <A href=3D"http://us.mc844.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?= to=3Dtaxi_steve929%40yahoo.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank>taxi_steve92= 9@ yahoo.com</A><BR>Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 08:17:24 -0700 (PDT)<BR>To: <A h= ref=3D"http://us.mc844.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dcolonial-coins%40yaho= ogroups.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank>colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. co= m</A><BR>Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] z1<BR><BR>here...I gotta run out t= he door and scanned this quick....i brightened it<BR>up a little so you can= see it, but it's pretty much the same and the other,<BR>copper-nickel I gu= ess?? If John Kraljevich(sp? ?) did the catalog as i think<BR>he did he hit= it on the head..I'll call you later...( colonial people gotta<BR>get easy = to remember name changes like frank<s> later buddy!!<BR><BR>---------= --- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -<BR>mail2web.com - Microsoft=C2=AE Exchange solutions from a leading provider -<BR><A href=3D= "http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank= >http://link. mail2web. com/Business/ Exchange</A><BR><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV= ></BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DI= V></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></td></tr></table> --0-16175458-1269044208=:70302--
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