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Return-Path: <taxi_steve929@yahoo.com> X-Sender: taxi_steve929@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 56318 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2011 20:35:52 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.106) by m12.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Jan 2011 20:35:52 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web84413.mail.ac2.yahoo.com) (68.180.158.109) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Jan 2011 20:35:52 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 11046 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Jan 2011 20:35:52 -0000 Message-ID: <579529.4076.qm@web84413.mail.ac2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: t4VzffsVM1lzHsS6MlDWPlx4Bd37QUvGGu7EIiDeyQdQvvK uNcHQNAneVTPJH_BaL6hV1m4IER70BglngBcdyjs5MV_1mt5pwnbeZp2OSje PQKDN8duQra7.hSV_et.gxGtFx6CLbP1p.hwVqmBGXDfN5c9vAPNp41Eela6 30XNINwuLA3jh_7ygvHQB79_5gwAJCxOB3s_GhjvsINh.eydc.VLIoRYmXCE qJkK_SVxy7Amy7HHbPeFuapjoK7IIA8vYUTKEFtC_rnsPijxrZQ91zNvNJ67 gbq58_Y6DwQdpjez5Mu8jOOEFDfLvV3U_Kv3k3EW5MyPdiwKAdc47FrrQ3dk 8PIfh4US96m6T5dtsdB6tt4ALtU.Diy1g0o5aB6FdOywPcdPxdOZNZTL2JTY p6kUZYgNNbdhwR4YXUSJUlbky6w-- X-Received: from [173.54.240.113] by web84413.mail.ac2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:35:51 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:35:51 -0800 (PST) To: Spanish American Group <Span-Am-coins@yahoogroups.com>, Colonial Coins <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>, Contemporary Counterfeits Group <contemporarycounterfeitworldcoins@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-1246393671-1296074151=:4076" X-Originating-IP: 68.180.158.109 From: Steve Frank <taxi_steve929@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Span-Am-coins] Die Rotation question (Kleeberg 88C-S4) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=143463627; y=liLZ7Z1ARsXeNK5V4kB0F_9skHKnj6ZTcW_ZuG2C8-q-WImGdp-UTg X-Yahoo-Profile: taxi_steve929
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I couldn't find my book and was working with a bad photo. The photo I took = isn't very good either. (As a matter of fact it stinks!!) But it is not a n= ew variety. Was surprised to get it anyway since I don't collect the 2 real= es. It's extremely nice in hand. I bought it for the combo of strike and co= unterfeit. It has a 315 die rotaion and the coin was multi struck, with the= P of HISPAN showing in 2 places, marked 1 and 2 in red on the obverse phot= o. Assuming nickel, with a pleasant gray, but with brassy highlights where = some light rub occured. My only Kleeberg variety and it's a pretty cool one= !!! =C2=A0 =C2=A0 --- On Wed, 1/26/11, Steve Frank <taxi_steve929@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Steve Frank <taxi_steve929@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Span-Am-coins] Die Rotation question To: Span-Am-coins@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 3:09 PM
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I drove a cab for 14 years and have had plenty of times I made a right turn= onto a major road, a quick left, hung a U turn, came back and made another= right. I did this because the lights are often timed so that when the para= de stops in one direction, it starts in the other, and never ends. I can ju= st move the car out and block traffic until I get a chance, or do what I di= d, which is kind to the people in back of me as well as those I would have = blocked on the busier road. Going from my house to Main street, I always ma= ke a right....if I want to make a left, I go further west. When I get someo= ne making a left in front of me where I said I never do, I usually just yel= l an obscenity because I know I'm stuck there for 5 to 10 minutes.=20
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From: CMcdon0923@aol.com <CMcdon0923@aol.com> Subject: Re: [Span-Am-coins] Die Rotation question To: Span-Am-coins@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 2:10 PM
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Laugh not.... =C2=A0 I have a relative who lives in Phoenix...a Great-Aunt through marriage.=C2= =A0 She's in he late 80s, maybe even 90, but is still independent. =C2=A0 But, she will not make left turns when she drives.=C2=A0 She will plan her = route accordingly to only turn right.=C2=A0 I have no idea how she does it,= but by now I assume she's got just about every route she takes, planned ou= t using only right turns. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0
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Steve, compass degrees are always expressed in positive numbers, therefor 315 degrees would be correct, no? Not wanting to say anything over 180 deg. is like me saying I will never make a left turn again because I am a conservative<S> David
Original Message: ----------------- From: Steve Frank taxi_steve929@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:29:26 -0800 (PST) To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, Span-Am-coins@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Span-Am-coins] Die Rotation question
I have a 2 reales where the coin is rotated 315 degrees clockwise=C2=A0from= obv to rev. How do we express this? I've seen it as a negative, (-45 degrees) and with text, (45 degrees counter-clockwise), these being used often by people who don't like to exceed 180 degrees. There's a reason I'm cc'ing the Span-Am group....thanks!!
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"= top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>I couldn't find my book and was working = with a bad photo. The photo I took isn't very good either. (As a matter of = fact it stinks!!) But it is not a new variety. Was surprised to get it anyw= ay since I don't collect the 2 reales. It's extremely nice in hand. I bough= t it for the combo of strike and counterfeit. It has a 315 die rotaion and = the coin was multi struck, with the P of HISPAN showing in 2 places, marked= 1 and 2 in red on the obverse photo. Assuming nickel, with a pleasant gray= , but with brassy highlights where some light rub occured. My only Kleeberg= variety and it's a pretty cool one!!!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>--- On <B>Wed, 1/26/11, Steve Frank <I><taxi_steve929@yahoo.com>= </I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5= px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Steve Frank <taxi_steve929@yahoo.com>= <BR>Subject: Re: [Span-Am-coins] Die Rotation question<BR>To: Span-Am-coins= @yahoogroups.com<BR>Date: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 3:09 PM<BR><BR> <DIV id=3Dyiv712872076><SPAN style=3D"DISPLAY: none"> </SPAN>=20 <DIV id=3Dyiv712872076ygrp-text> <DIV> <TABLE border=3D0 cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>I drove a cab for 14 years and have had plenty of times I = made a right turn onto a major road, a quick left, hung a U turn, came back= and made another right. I did this because the lights are often timed so t= hat when the parade stops in one direction, it starts in the other, and nev= er ends. I can just move the car out and block traffic until I get a chance= , or do what I did, which is kind to the people in back of me as well as th= ose I would have blocked on the busier road. Going from my house to Main st= reet, I always make a right....if I want to make a left, I go further west.= When I get someone making a left in front of me where I said I never do, I= usually just yell an obscenity because I know I'm stuck there for 5 to 10 = minutes. <BR><BR>--- On <B>Wed, 1/26/11, CMcdon0923@aol.com <I><CMcdon09= 23@aol.com></I></B> wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: CMcdo= n0923@aol.com <CMcdon0923@aol.com><BR>Subject: Re: [Span-Am-coins] Di= e Rotation question<BR>To: Span-Am-coins@yahoogroups.com<BR>Date: Wednesday= , January 26, 2011, 2:10 PM<BR><BR> <DIV id=3Dyiv712872076yiv603521551><SPAN> </SPAN>=20 <DIV id=3Dyiv712872076yiv603521551ygrp-text> <DIV><FONT color=3Dblack size=3D2 face=3Darial> <DIV>Laugh not....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I have a relative who lives in Phoenix...a Great-Aunt through marriage= . She's in he late 80s, maybe even 90, but is still independent.</DIV= > <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But, <STRONG>she will not make left turns</STRONG> when she drives.&nb= sp; She will plan her route accordingly to only turn right. I have no= idea how she does it, but by now I assume she's got just about every route= she takes, planned out using only right turns.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><BR><BR> </DIV> <DIV></DIV><BR><BR> <DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"= >-----Original Message-----<BR>From: dlpalmer@optonline.net <dlpalmer@op= tonline.net><BR>To: Span-Am-coins@yahoogroups.com<BR>Sent: Wed, Jan 26, = 2011 12:21 pm<BR>Subject: RE: [Span-Am-coins] Die Rotation question<BR><BR> <DIV id=3Dyiv712872076yiv603521551AOLMsgPart_2_db808903-fe50-4909-9a32-5c68= 57b47ce0><SPAN> </SPAN>=20 <DIV id=3Dyiv712872076yiv603521551ygrp-mlmsg> <DIV id=3Dyiv712872076yiv603521551ygrp-msg> <DIV id=3Dyiv712872076yiv603521551ygrp-text> <DIV>Steve, compass degrees are always expressed in positive numbers, there= for<BR>315 degrees would be correct, no? Not wanting to say anything over 1= 80 deg.<BR>is like me saying I will never make a left turn again because I = am a<BR>conservative<S> David<BR><BR>Original Message:<BR>-----------= ------<BR>From: Steve Frank <A href=3D"http://us.mc844.mail.yahoo.com/mc/co= mpose?to=3Dtaxi_steve929%40yahoo.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank>taxi_s= teve929@yahoo.com</A><BR>Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:29:26 -0800 (PST)<BR>To:= <A href=3D"http://us.mc844.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dcolonial-coins%4= 0yahoogroups.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank>colonial-coins@yahoogroups= .com</A>, <A href=3D"http://us.mc844.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3DSpan-Am= -coins%40yahoogroups.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank>Span-Am-coins@yaho= ogroups.com</A><BR>Subject: [Span-Am-coins] Die Rotation question<BR><BR>I = have a 2 reales where the coin is rotated 315 degrees clockwise from o= bv<BR>to rev. How do we express this? I've seen it as a negative, (-45 degrees)<BR>and with = text, (45 degrees counter-clockwise), these being used often by<BR>people w= ho don't like to exceed 180 degrees. There's a reason I'm cc'ing<BR>the Spa= n-Am group....thanks!!<BR><BR>---------------------------------------------= -------------<BR>mail2web LIVE =E2=80=93 Free email based on Microsoft=C2= =AE Exchange technology -<BR><A href=3D"http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE" rel= =3Dnofollow target=3D_blank>http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE</A><BR><BR></DIV>= </DIV> <DIV style=3D"HEIGHT: 0px; COLOR: #fff"></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></FON= T></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></DIV></DI= V></BLOCKQUOTE></td></tr></table> --0-2090860954-1296074151=:4076--
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