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From: Steve Frank <taxi_steve929@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [contemporarycounterfeitworldcoins] Bifurcation effect...strike pressure of die, or punches...??
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.....something added from CCWC....CS.... die state?? VLDS becomes bifurcate=
d? Why? Is it more the long term use of a die as opposed to each strike...i=
e we couldn't have a sequence where it happened, then didn;t then did etc..=
..(the bifurcation effect)
--- On Fri, 2/11/11, Steve Frank <taxi_steve929@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Steve Frank <taxi_steve929@yahoo.com>
Subject: [contemporarycounterfeitworldcoins] Bifurcation effect...strike pr=
essure of die, or punches...??
To: contemporarycounterfeitworldcoins@yahoogroups.com
Cc: "Colonial Coins" <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 6:17 PM
=C2=A0=20
*** I'm cross-posting a question that has been answered before but I just c=
an't remember what it was. Bifurcated legends occur on both modern and colo=
nial coins. On another group, someone was surprised to learn that this can =
occur on one coin of the same die and not another, having only seen the eff=
ect with modern coins, where I assume since all have it of a particular die=
, it is an effect created at the time the die is made instead of the time t=
he coin is struck. The question once again....What causes bifurcated legend=
s on colonial era coins, and can we see an example of the same variety with=
heavy bifurcation alongside of one with no sign of the effect? ****
=C2=A0
I forget if its low or high or if speed has anything to do with it...I want=
to ask but hate to ask something like that to the colonials group...might =
be considered off-topic. I'm a member of an errors group and someone posted=
a modern coin with this effect, and said this was always done at the time =
of die creation since all the coins had it...I said there are instances whe=
re not all have it and he asked to see any....hence I need the example with=
out the bifurcated legends. I can use Rogers but would like one with even l=
ess wear...reverse. So this can happen at die prep time or coin creation ti=
me. I want to also clarify if it is high or low pressure, if speed has anyt=
hing to do with it...which I guess speed is the same as high or low pressur=
e with this as the faster the ropes were pulled the faster and harder it wo=
uld strike the planchet and bounce back. lastly, with these, would a collar=
have prevented this if it is done at coin strike time?? Heck...I
really don't want to cross post because I don't want to cause any trouble,=
but I also want to get the best possible answer and there are a lot more p=
eople in that group than here....although this group is more elite....<BG>
--- On Fri, 2/11/11, Rickie Rose <sjkrose@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Rickie Rose <sjkrose@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [contemporarycounterfeitworldcoins] Bifurcation effect...strik=
e pressure of die, or punches...??
To: contemporarycounterfeitworldcoins@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 6:03 PM
=C2=A0=20
Low pressure and slow strike?
From: Steve Frank <taxi_steve929@yahoo.com>
To: contemporarycounterfeitworldcoins@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, February 11, 2011 5:51:56 PM
Subject: [contemporarycounterfeitworldcoins] Bifurcation effect...strike pr=
essure of die, or punches...??
=C2=A0=20
I know bifurcation is a result of strike pressure...is it too much or two l=
ittle. It can be caused by die punches, and also caused when blank planchet=
s struck....is it pressure, planchet prep or a combo?? I need all the info =
I can get on this or where I can find the info.....Thanks!!!
--- On Fri, 2/11/11, Steve Frank <taxi_steve929@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Steve Frank <taxi_steve929@yahoo.com>
Subject: [contemporarycounterfeitworldcoins] Need another high grade exampl=
e without effects on Rickie's coin
To: contemporarycounterfeitworldcoins@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 5:45 PM
=C2=A0=20
Hi Rickie...can I borrow your photo...009....I would like to know where the=
information is written about what causes the effect at the edges where the=
pressure causes the bottom of the I's etc to turn upward and run to the ed=
ges....also if I can find a high grade example of this variety without the =
effect it would be great.
=C2=A0
Someone had told me this is the way the dies were created and nothing to do=
with strike...I couldn't remember exactly what caused it...I remember read=
ing an article that talked about it, but can't even remember what we call t=
he effect....this F'ing medication has turned my brain to mush!!! Just reme=
mbered...bifurcation.....now where can I read about this effect.
--- On Fri, 2/11/11, Rickie Rose <sjkrose@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Rickie Rose <sjkrose@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [contemporarycounterfeitworldcoins] One of My Favorite Counter=
feithalfpence
To: contemporarycounterfeitworldcoins@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 5:34 PM
=C2=A0=20
I like them too... here's my pair!=20
Rickie
=C2=A0
From: Roger Moore <rogermoore435@yahoo.com>
To: contemporarycounterfeitworldcoins@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, February 11, 2011 4:28:58 PM
Subject: Re: [contemporarycounterfeitworldcoins] One of My Favorite Counter=
feithalfpence
=C2=A0=20
Hi Steve,=C2=A0 I enjoy these also.=C2=A0 Have attached one with both obver=
se and reverse as well as an interesting possible related Mousy Faced!!=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 Roger
From: Steve Frank <taxi_steve929@yahoo.com>
To: contemporarycounterfeitworldcoins@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, February 11, 2011 8:53:44 AM
Subject: Re: [contemporarycounterfeitworldcoins] One of My Favorite Counter=
feithalfpence
=C2=A0=20
Very small chance...but this has always been one of my favorites if not my =
absolute favorite. It was probably one of the earliest varieties I bought a=
nd this, if planed, would be great to have and counterstamp my initials on!=
!!<BG>....
--- On Fri, 2/11/11, MICHAEL BRIGGS <michael.briggs9@btinternet.com> wrote:
From: MICHAEL BRIGGS <michael.briggs9@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: [contemporarycounterfeitworldcoins] One of My Favorite Counter=
feithalfpence
To: contemporarycounterfeitworldcoins@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 8:34 AM
=C2=A0=20
Steve
=C2=A0
I was the high bidder.=C2=A0I'll send you a better image when it arrives. I=
think it's been=C2=A0planed too. Possibly to accommodate an inscription th=
at never was, or maybe to provide a better skimming surface=C2=A0for a game=
of 'shove ha'penny'. But always the chance that it might be misstruck<s>.
=C2=A0
Michael.
From: Steve Frank <taxi_steve929@yahoo.com>
To: contemporarycounterfeitworldcoins@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 11 February, 2011 12:45:16
Subject: Re: [contemporarycounterfeitworldcoins] One of My Favorite Counter=
feithalfpence
=C2=A0=20
I understand that from both of you...most likely...but anything is possible=
?? Real long shot but as I said, I just always loved this obverse....I gues=
s the same way I prefer the Camel Head NJ with wear to little circulation..=
..some wear brings out the weirdness.....I feel weary today....
--- On Fri, 2/11/11, Jeff Rock <Rosaamltd@aol.com> wrote:
From: Jeff Rock <Rosaamltd@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [contemporarycounterfeitworldcoins] One of My Favorite Counter=
feithalfpence
To: contemporarycounterfeitworldcoins@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 1:14 AM
=C2=A0=20
Which is why it went so low -- we weren't bidding against each other on it!
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:52 PM, dlpalmer@optonline.net <dlpalmer@optonline=
.net> wrote:
=C2=A0=20
Jeff, That is certainly what it looks like to me. David
Original Message:
-----------------
From: Jeff Rock Rosaamltd@aol.com
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 21:20:30 -0800
To: contemporarycounterfeitworldcoins@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [contemporarycounterfeitworldcoins] One of My Favorite
Counterfeithalfpence=20
Steve, I just assumed the reverse had been planed off -- in the photo it
looks like you can see some file marks and the like.
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Steve Frank <taxi_steve929@yahoo.com>wrote=
:
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> Whats the story with this? Let us know or me know privately when whoever
> won it gets it. Thanks!! Steve
>
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top" style=3D"font: inherit;">.....something added from CCWC....CS.... die =
state?? VLDS becomes bifurcated? Why? Is it more the long term use of a die=
as opposed to each strike...ie we couldn't have a sequence where it happen=
ed, then didn;t then did etc....(the bifurcation effect)<BR><BR>--- On <B>F=
ri, 2/11/11, Steve Frank <I><taxi_steve929@yahoo.com></I></B> wrote:<=
BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5=
px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Steve Frank <taxi_steve929@yahoo.com>=
<BR>Subject: [contemporarycounterfeitworldcoins] Bifurcation effect...strik=
e pressure of die, or punches...??<BR>To: contemporarycounterfeitworldcoins=
@yahoogroups.com<BR>Cc: "Colonial Coins" <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=
><BR>Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 6:17 PM<BR><BR>
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<DIV>*** I'm cross-posting a question that has been answered before but I j=
ust can't remember what it was. Bifurcated legends occur on both modern and=
colonial coins. On another group, someone was surprised to learn that this=
can occur on one coin of the same die and not another, having only seen th=
e effect with modern coins, where I assume since all have it of a particula=
r die, it is an effect created at the time the die is made instead of the t=
ime the coin is struck. The question once again....What causes bifurcated l=
egends on colonial era coins, and can we see an example of the same variety=
with heavy bifurcation alongside of one with no sign of the effect? ****</=
DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I forget if its low or high or if speed has anything to do with it...I=
want to ask but hate to ask something like that to the colonials group...m=
ight be considered off-topic. I'm a member of an errors group and someone p=
osted a modern coin with this effect, and said this was always done at the =
time of die creation since all the coins had it...I said there are instance=
s where not all have it and he asked to see any....hence I need the example=
without the bifurcated legends. I can use Rogers but would like one with e=
ven less wear...reverse. So this can happen at die prep time or coin creati=
on time. I want to also clarify if it is high or low pressure, if speed has=
anything to do with it...which I guess speed is the same as high or low pr=
essure with this as the faster the ropes were pulled the faster and harder =
it would strike the planchet and bounce back. lastly, with these, would a c=
ollar have prevented this if it is done at coin strike time??
Heck...I really don't want to cross post because I don't want to cause any=
trouble, but I also want to get the best possible answer and there are a l=
ot more people in that group than here....although this group is more elite=
....<BG><BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 2/11/11, Rickie Rose <I><sjkrose@ya=
hoo.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Ricki=
e Rose <sjkrose@yahoo.com><BR>Subject: Re: [contemporarycounterfeitwo=
rldcoins] Bifurcation effect...strike pressure of die, or punches...??<BR>T=
o: contemporarycounterfeitworldcoins@yahoogroups.com<BR>Date: Friday, Febru=
ary 11, 2011, 6:03 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=3Dyiv927638007><SPAN> </SPAN>=20
<DIV id=3Dyiv927638007ygrp-text>
<DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"=
>Low pressure and slow strike?<BR>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"=
><BR>
<DIV style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; FONT-FAMILY: times new=
roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT size=3D2 face=3DTaho=
ma><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Steve Frank <ta=
xi_steve929@yahoo.com><BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN=
></B> contemporarycounterfeitworldcoins@yahoogroups.com<BR><B><SPAN style=
=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Fri, February 11, 2011 5:51:56 PM<B=
R><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [contemporarycou=
nterfeitworldcoins] Bifurcation effect...strike pressure of die, or punches=
...??<BR></FONT><BR><SPAN> </SPAN>=20
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<DIV>
<TABLE border=3D0 cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D0>
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<TR>
<TD vAlign=3Dtop>I know bifurcation is a result of strike pressure...is it =
too much or two little. It can be caused by die punches, and also caused wh=
en blank planchets struck....is it pressure, planchet prep or a combo?? I n=
eed all the info I can get on this or where I can find the info.....Thanks!=
!!<BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 2/11/11, Steve Frank <I><taxi_steve929@yahoo.co=
m></I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Steve=
Frank <taxi_steve929@yahoo.com><BR>Subject: [contemporarycounterfeit=
worldcoins] Need another high grade example without effects on Rickie's coi=
n<BR>To: contemporarycounterfeitworldcoins@yahoogroups.com<BR>Date: Friday,=
February 11, 2011, 5:45 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=3Dyiv927638007><SPAN> </SPAN>=20
<DIV id=3Dyiv927638007ygrp-text>
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<TABLE border=3D0 cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D0>
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=3Dtop>
<DIV>Hi Rickie...can I borrow your photo...009....I would like to know wher=
e the information is written about what causes the effect at the edges wher=
e the pressure causes the bottom of the I's etc to turn upward and run to t=
he edges....also if I can find a high grade example of this variety without=
the effect it would be great.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Someone had told me this is the way the dies were created and nothing =
to do with strike...I couldn't remember exactly what caused it...I remember=
reading an article that talked about it, but can't even remember what we c=
all the effect....this F'ing medication has turned my brain to mush!!! Just=
remembered...bifurcation.....now where can I read about this effect.<BR><B=
R>--- On <B>Fri, 2/11/11, Rickie Rose <I><sjkrose@yahoo.com></I></B> =
wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Ricki=
e Rose <sjkrose@yahoo.com><BR>Subject: Re: [contemporarycounterfeitwo=
rldcoins] One of My Favorite Counterfeithalfpence<BR>To: contemporarycounte=
rfeitworldcoins@yahoogroups.com<BR>Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 5:34 PM=
<BR><BR>
<DIV id=3Dyiv927638007><SPAN> </SPAN>=20
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<DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"=
>I like them too... here's my pair! <BR>Rickie<BR>
<DIV> <BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"=
><BR>
<DIV style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; FONT-FAMILY: times new=
roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT size=3D2 face=3DTaho=
ma><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Roger Moore <ro=
germoore435@yahoo.com><BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN=
></B> contemporarycounterfeitworldcoins@yahoogroups.com<BR><B><SPAN style=
=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Fri, February 11, 2011 4:28:58 PM<B=
R><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [contemporar=
ycounterfeitworldcoins] One of My Favorite Counterfeithalfpence<BR></FONT><=
BR><SPAN> </SPAN>=20
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>
<DIV>Hi Steve, I enjoy these also. Have attached one with both =
obverse and reverse as well as an interesting possible related Mousy Faced!=
! Roger<BR></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"=
><BR>
<DIV style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; FONT-FAMILY: times new=
roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT size=3D2 face=3DTaho=
ma>
<HR SIZE=3D1>
<B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Steve Frank <taxi_=
steve929@yahoo.com><BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></=
B> contemporarycounterfeitworldcoins@yahoogroups.com<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"F=
ONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Fri, February 11, 2011 8:53:44 AM<BR><B>=
<SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [contemporarycoun=
terfeitworldcoins] One of My Favorite Counterfeithalfpence<BR></FONT><BR><S=
PAN> </SPAN>=20
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<TD vAlign=3Dtop>Very small chance...but this has always been one of my fav=
orites if not my absolute favorite. It was probably one of the earliest var=
ieties I bought and this, if planed, would be great to have and counterstam=
p my initials on!!!<BG>....<BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 2/11/11, MICHAEL BR=
IGGS <I><michael.briggs9@btinternet.com></I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: MICHA=
EL BRIGGS <michael.briggs9@btinternet.com><BR>Subject: Re: [contempor=
arycounterfeitworldcoins] One of My Favorite Counterfeithalfpence<BR>To: co=
ntemporarycounterfeitworldcoins@yahoogroups.com<BR>Date: Friday, February 1=
1, 2011, 8:34 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=3Dyiv927638007><SPAN> </SPAN>=20
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<DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SI=
ZE: 12pt">
<DIV>Steve</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I was the high bidder. I'll send you a better image when it arriv=
es. I think it's been planed too. Possibly to accommodate an inscripti=
on that never was, or maybe to provide a better skimming surface for a=
game of 'shove ha'penny'. But always the chance that it might be misstruck=
<s>.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Michael.<BR></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SI=
ZE: 12pt"><BR>
<DIV style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; FONT-FAMILY: times new=
roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT size=3D2 face=3DTaho=
ma>
<HR SIZE=3D1>
<B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Steve Frank <taxi_=
steve929@yahoo.com><BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></=
B> contemporarycounterfeitworldcoins@yahoogroups.com<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"F=
ONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, 11 February, 2011 12:45:16<BR><B=
><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [contemporarycou=
nterfeitworldcoins] One of My Favorite Counterfeithalfpence<BR></FONT><BR><=
SPAN> </SPAN>=20
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<TR>
<TD vAlign=3Dtop>I understand that from both of you...most likely...but any=
thing is possible?? Real long shot but as I said, I just always loved this =
obverse....I guess the same way I prefer the Camel Head NJ with wear to lit=
tle circulation....some wear brings out the weirdness.....I feel weary toda=
y....<BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 2/11/11, Jeff Rock <I><Rosaamltd@aol.com>=
</I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Jeff =
Rock <Rosaamltd@aol.com><BR>Subject: Re: [contemporarycounterfeitworl=
dcoins] One of My Favorite Counterfeithalfpence<BR>To: contemporarycounterf=
eitworldcoins@yahoogroups.com<BR>Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 1:14 AM<B=
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<DIV>Which is why it went so low -- we weren't bidding against each other o=
n it!<BR><BR>
<DIV class=3Dyiv927638007gmail_quote>On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:52 PM, <A hr=
ef=3D"http://us.mc844.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Ddlpalmer@optonline.net=
" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank>dlpalmer@optonline.net</A> <SPAN dir=3Dltr=
><<A href=3D"http://us.mc844.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Ddlpalmer@opt=
online.net" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank>dlpalmer@optonline.net</A>></=
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<DIV>Jeff, That is certainly what it looks like to me. David<BR><BR>Origina=
l Message:<BR>-----------------<BR>From: Jeff Rock <A href=3D"http://us.mc8=
44.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3DRosaamltd%40aol.com" rel=3Dnofollow targe=
t=3D_blank>Rosaamltd@aol.com</A><BR>Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 21:20:30 -0800<B=
R>To: <A href=3D"http://us.mc844.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dcontemporar=
ycounterfeitworldcoins%40yahoogroups.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank>co=
ntemporarycounterfeitworldcoins@yahoogroups.com</A><BR>Subject: Re: [contem=
porarycounterfeitworldcoins] One of My Favorite<BR>Counterfeithalfpence=20
<DIV class=3Dyiv927638007im><BR><BR>Steve, I just assumed the reverse had b=
een planed off -- in the photo it<BR>looks like you can see some file marks=
and the like.<BR><BR>On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Steve Frank <<A h=
ref=3D"http://us.mc844.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dtaxi_steve929%40yahoo=
.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank>taxi_steve929@yahoo.com</A>>wrote:<=
BR><BR>><BR>><BR>> Whats the story with this? Let us know or me kn=
ow privately when whoever<BR>> won it gets it. Thanks!! Steve<BR>><BR=
>><BR>><BR><SPAN><SPAN><A href=3D"http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl=
l?ViewItem&rt=3Dnc&nma=3Dtrue&item=3D2607290637" rel=3Dnofollow=
target=3D_blank>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=3Dnc&=
amp;nma=3Dtrue&item=3D2607290637</A></SPAN></SPAN><BR>16<BR>><BR>>=
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