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From: "colonialjohn" <johnmenc@optonline.net>
Subject: G3-1771-1 or Wood 38-a
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No problem ... in the Blacksmith World it is known as Wood 38-a. Finest of =
four? known ... There was one other in the Roy Hughes Collection by Torex t=
hat sold in the 90's but Roy Hughes may have purchased one of the Taylor pi=
eces you mentioned in your article ... it is plated so a plate match is pos=
sible to confirm (4) or (5) known specimens ... exceeds the Bank of Canada =
Collection coin by two full grades ... and the Ringo piece is the Finest Kn=
own Wood 38-a or G3-1771-1 ... for sure ... true we can go round and round =
... all I am saying Jeff it was probably the best Blacksmith (if you wish t=
o consider this piece in that family) to come on the market in the last 25 =
years ... this is why I give it a #2 rating ... nothing beats the banana no=
se ... sure the Baby Head is awaesome but Stacks totally undercatalouged th=
e G3-1771-1 piece in a MAJOR way never linking it DIRECTLY to the Blackmsit=
hs ... I mean why would I bid you up from $2,000 to $3,000 at the Ringo Sal=
e if was not the #2 coin <VBG>. The 1767 is AWESOME but is not linked to th=
e Blacksmiths either as Wood 38-a or Wood 38-b. Yes the point is moot takin=
g this to the next level. ... Both Wood 38-a and 38-b were classified initi=
ally as Blacksmiths since they were dateless. Wait a minute ... G3-1771-1 i=
s dated 1771. Yes but not the specimen initially viewed which had no 1771 d=
ate ... so without the date it was a perfect fit for a Wood 38-a classifica=
tion. If G3-1767-1 were dateless it would probably fit a Wood 38-c classifi=
cation. As I mentioned they may have been imported but the alloy mix in Woo=
d 38-a does not fix the typical high copper (98-99%) English imports and ev=
en the Evasions Morris is working on ... its a metallurgical anomaly and al=
so does not fit into the Blacksmith W1-12 or W23-29 sub-series. OK ... Jeff=
... #7.=20
--- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Rock <Rosaamltd@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks guys! This was a fun -- and infuriating! -- one to do. Whenever =
I
> thought I was done, another one popped up, or another coin with die shari=
ng
> or something else. I fully expect more to come up (in fact I may have ju=
st
> bought a new 1771 right after Oliver sent the piece to press!), but I thi=
nk
> if we can do something like this with a lot of the counterfeit series,
> making it easy for newer collectors to attribute pieces (and explain WHY
> they are neat, along the way), we'll really make a lot of progress.
>=20
> JPL, as for John's coins, the 1771 was neat but I wouldn't put it as seco=
nd
> best coin. After the Banana Nose, Baby Head, 1783, 1767 Irish Blacksmith
> and maybe the triple struck Irish would be my estimate -- but definitely =
a
> "top ten" coin on anyone's list!
>=20
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Rickie Rose <sjkrose@...> wrote:
>=20
> > **
> >
> >
> > "a masterpiece of an article" I second that... Great job Jeff!
> > Rickie
> >
> > *From:* colonialjohn <johnmenc@...>
> > *To:* colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
> > *Sent:* Monday, January 9, 2012 5:41 PM
> > *Subject:* [Colonial Numismatics] Jeff Rock - STUPENDOUS!
> >
> >
> > CNL-147. In reference to G3-1771-1 I was awaiting Wood 38-a as per the
> > Bank of Canada NCC classification. XRF analysis and as you hint in the =
lack
> > of die sharing and all were found in Canada thought does have a very we=
ird
> > alloy mix unlike the Evasions, 1775 English 1/2d's, 1/4d's and ever oth=
er
> > mainstream Blackmsiths say of Woods 1-12. To me it was Ringo's second b=
est
> > coin. Much more to follow ... a masterpiece of an article. The best I h=
ave
> > seen in YEARS. Congratulations!
> >
> >
> >
> >=20=20
> >
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