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    Nope, as I said I will leave the 1762 label based on my bias, but my true f=
    eeling is it is a poorly attempted=C2=A01752.=C2=A0 Doesn't change my appre=
    ciation of the coin one whit, however.=C2=A0 Roger



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    >OK, so allowing that a 1762 George II Simian clearly DOES exist, does that=
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    >>Nope,=C2=A0 a beautiful 1762.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I also see your point since the=
    devices and legends also go along with the 1752s!!=C2=A0 Roger=20
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    Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2012 2:15 PM
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    >>>Roger, would you call this one a 1752?
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    >>>On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Roger Moore <rogermoore435@yahoo.com> wr=
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    >>>>Hi Marc,=C2=A0 I looked through all the 2008 C4Js and I did not find th=
    e Bailey article on 1762s.=C2=A0 When and where did it appear?=C2=A0 Thanks=
    =C2=A0 Roger
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    >>>>From: marcus mayhugh <remi66111@yahoo.com> To: colonial-coins@yahoogrou=
    ps.com Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 3:49 PM
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    >>>>>Hi Roger,
    >>>>>I'll chime in to and say 1762,maybe intended for 1769.That was a prett=
    y common cft=C2=A0 and regal date. Did you know I wrote a little item about=
    1762 halfpence in the C4J? Nothing remarkable there, but a reference to "O=
    ld Bailey Trials and a 1762 piece described therein.
    >>>>>Marc
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    >>>>>--- On Fri, 2/3/12, Roger Moore <rogermoore435@yahoo.com> wrote:
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    >>>>>>From: Roger Moore <rogermoore435@yahoo.com>
    >>>>>>Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] WHATSIT??
    >>>>>>To: "coins" <nonregalresearch@yahoogroups.com>, "Colonial coins" <col=
    onial-coins@yahoogroups.com>
    >>>>>>Date: Friday, February 3, 2012, 11:32 AM
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    >>>>>>Hello all,=C2=A0 Since the super Bowl weekend is fast approaching and=
    I find myself unexpectedly free for the afternoon,=C2=A0I have photographe=
    d some recent purchases.=C2=A0 The attached is one coin I am awed with.=C2=
    =A0 I know others have this same variety.=C2=A0 The one I got is in virtual=
    ly uncirculated condition.=C2=A0 The issue is the date which is definitely =
    17 something something.=C2=A0 I think others have labeled it as a 1762 whic=
    h I have also done for the sake of discussion but I certainly could go with=
    1752, 1769, and1759.=C2=A0 I usually don't like coins without good dates b=
    ut this one is an exception.=C2=A0 The crude hand cut legends and ridiculou=
    sly hand cut date, reminds me a little of the Simians, but the strong well =
    done obverse central device of King George II seems to contradict this, tho=
    ugh the very crude Britannia supports it.=C2=A0 The coin needs more study b=
    ut was wondering what others thought were.=C2=A0 Roger =
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    <html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ar=
    ial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14pt"><div><span>Nope, as I said I wil=
    l leave the 1762 label based on my bias, but my true feeling is it is a poo=
    rly attempted 1752.  Doesn't change my appreciation of the coin o=
    ne whit, however.  Roger</span></div><div><br></div><blockquote style=
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    Rock <Rosaamltd@aol.com><br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">T=
    o:</span></b> colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com <br> <b><span style=3D"font-we=
    ight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, February 4, 2012 2:29 PM<br> <b><sp=
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    <div>OK, so allowing that a 1762 George II Simian clearly DOES exist,=
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    5972gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Roger Moore <span dir=3D"=
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    >Nope,  a beautiful 1762.   I also see your point since the =
    devices and legends also go along with the 1752s!!  Roger</span></div>
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    wbr> </div><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday,=
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    <div>Roger, would you call this one a 1752?</div><div><u></u>Jeff<u><=
    /u><u></u></div><div>On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Roger Moore <span dir=
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    >Hi Marc,  I looked through all the 2008 C4Js and I did not find the B=
    ailey article on 1762s.  When and where did it appear?  Thanks&nb=
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    <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a href=3D"mailto:colo=
    nial-coins@yahoogroups.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" ymailto=3D"m=
    ailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</a> <u=
    ></u></div><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, F=
    ebruary 3, 2012 3:49 PM<div>

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    ial Numismatics] WHATSIT??<u></u></div></font></div><u></u>
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    <td vAlign=3D"top">Hi Roger,<br>I'll chime in to and say 1762,maybe intende=
    d for 1769.That was a pretty common cft  and regal date. Did you know =
    I wrote a little item about 1762 halfpence in the C4J? Nothing remarkable t=
    here, but a reference to "Old Bailey Trials and a 1762 piece described ther=
    ein.<br>

    Marc<br><br>--- On <b>Fri, 2/3/12, Roger Moore <i><<a href=3D"mailto:rog=
    ermoore435@yahoo.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" ymailto=3D"mailto:=
    rogermoore435@yahoo.com">rogermoore435@yahoo.com</a>></i></b> wrote:<br>
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    : 2px; border-left-style: solid;"><br>From: Roger Moore <<a href=3D"mail=
    to:rogermoore435@yahoo.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" ymailto=3D"m=
    ailto:rogermoore435@yahoo.com">rogermoore435@yahoo.com</a>><br>
    Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] WHATSIT??<br>
    To: "coins" <<a href=3D"mailto:nonregalresearch@yahoogroups.com" rel=3D"=
    nofollow" target=3D"_blank" ymailto=3D"mailto:nonregalresearch@yahoogroups.=
    com">nonregalresearch@yahoogroups.com</a>>, "Colonial coins" <<a href=
    =3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blan=
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    oups.com</a>><br>

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    <div>Hello all,  Since the super Bowl weekend is fast approaching and =
    I find myself unexpectedly free for the afternoon, I have photographed=
    some recent purchases.  The attached is one coin I am awed with. =
    ; I know others have this same variety.  The one I got is in virtually=
    uncirculated condition.  The issue is the date which is definitely 17=
    something something.  I think others have labeled it as a 1762 which =
    I have also done for the sake of discussion but I certainly could go with 1=
    752, 1769, and1759.  I usually don't like coins without good dates but=
    this one is an exception.  The crude hand cut legends and ridiculousl=
    y hand cut date, reminds me a little of the Simians, but the strong well do=
    ne obverse central device of King George II seems to contradict this, thoug=
    h the very crude Britannia supports it.  The coin needs more study but=
    was wondering what others thought were<var></var>. =20
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