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Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Wall Street Rarities
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John L,
E-Bay killed it?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Bill Jr.and Bill III rented some of the priciest real estate in the Financi=
al District, made close to $500,000 in improvements to the facility to sell=
coins that are now selling on eBay????????
Really........?!?
Roger ....(a one time CPA)
--- On Thu, 2/23/12, colonialjohn <johnmenc@optonline.net> wrote:
From: colonialjohn <johnmenc@optonline.net>
Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Wall Street Rarities
To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 23, 2012, 10:32 AM
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E-Bay killed it.
--- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, Ray Williams <njraywms@...> wrote:
>
> John,
> What ever happened to Wall Street Rarities? Why did it shut its door=
s?
> Ray
>=20
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "colonialjohn" <johnmenc@...>
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:37 PM
> To: <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Civil War Token Hub Trials
>=20
> > OK. You are talking about the civil war token hub trials. Yes. Can't=20
> > recall the person in Pa.. Anton bought the group intact from this=20
> > collector/dealer and there were 8-9 pieces. All were die-linked with=20
> > current Rulau listed CW tokens. Bought 2-3 of these ... sold 2-3 on E-B=
ay=20
> > for Bill. He wanted to keep (2). Pretty sure Stacks said KOOL as I=20
> > consigned (1) or (2)? ... sold as part of my Stacks C.G. dumps post -20=
08=20
> > Americana. They thought they were the real McCoy. Brought $400-600/ea. =
on=20
> > E-Bay for Bill. Likewise in the C.G.'s from memory. Everyone was satisf=
ied=20
> > ... E-Bay buyers and Stacks and the subsequent customers. Bill has (1)=
=20
> > or(2) left. After 2008 after my Sale ... my interest moved on to other=
=20
> > pieces. For awhile pre-2008 I sold alot of exonumia stuff and CC's for=
=20
> > Bill on E-Bay as you may know ... if I liked something he usually gave =
me=20
> > a 25% discount. Sold hundreds ... I was going to tell Mr. Coin X I=20
> > actually handled 20,000 pieces in my life and mostly at Wall Street=20
> > Rarities as part of our multi-million dollar inventory at the time ... =
but=20
> > then there is a guy from Canada that wants to turn me into a lawn ornam=
net=20
> > but I am going to try to educate him on the in's/out's of EBSD/SEM and =
how=20
> > to properly report microanalysis data so I will keep the figure at 10,0=
00=20
> > pieces ... long story Byron <BG>.
> >
> > JPL
> >
> > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "Byron" <bkw11@> wrote:
> >>
> >> I suppose I could research the message files to find out more about th=
e=20
> >> die trials, but if you don't mind, John, please refresh my memory. As=
=20
> >> best I recall, many of them originated with a gentleman in PA before t=
hey=20
> >> were, in turn, then sold to you, is that correct?
> >>
> >> Byron
> >>
> >> --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "colonialjohn" <johnmenc@> wrot=
e:
> >> >
> >> > OK.
> >> >
> >> > I hate die trials ... but only from a metal detecting origin. Set-up=
=20
> >> > piece? <BG>.
> >> >
> >> > a RR 40 Current Pole Census: (Fake: 4) (Real: 0) (No opinion/not=20
> >> > sure:1).
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "Byron" <bkw11@> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > I think you could classify my "no opinion" more as a "not sayin'"=
=20
> >> > > John. I do have an opinion about their status, and even an opinion=
=20
> >> > > about where they were made, but I'm just not sayin'!
> >> > >
> >> > > BTW, John, you still got any of those "die trials?"<s>
> >> > >
> >> > > Byron
> >> > >
> >> > > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "colonialjohn" <johnmenc@>=
=20
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > RR 40 Current Pole Census: (Fake: 4) (Real: 0) (No opinion/not=20
> >> > > > sure:2).
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, marcus mayhugh <remi66111=
@>=20
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > John,
> >> > > > > You can put me down as a "Not sure". Unless everybody knows=20
> >> > > > > something I don't.
> >> > > > > 1. It is not hard to imagine a V 13 obverse married to a Vermo=
nt=20
> >> > > > > L reverse.Both probably being produced at the same factory. 13=
is=20
> >> > > > > also married with two unlikely Connecticut reverses of Machin=
=20
> >> > > > > manufacture. 2. The person who discovered it,Ron Guth, is very=
=20
> >> > > > > reputable and it was found in a top notch museum. As Ray said,=
=20
> >> > > > > how hard is it to smuggle something into the Smithsonian.Maybe=
=20
> >> > > > > someone can shed some light on that.3. I have not seen the edg=
e.=20
> >> > > > > It would likely have a seam if concocted. To be perfectly hone=
st,=20
> >> > > > > if I hadn't have heard everybody putting it down, all the=20
> >> > > > > basement jokes ect....I don't know what I would think.
> >> > > > > Marc
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > --- On Thu, 2/23/12, colonialjohn <johnmenc@> wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > From: colonialjohn <johnmenc@>
> >> > > > > Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Vermont RR40
> >> > > > > To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
> >> > > > > Date: Thursday, February 23, 2012, 9:42 AM
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
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> >> > > > > RR 40 Current Pole Census: (Fake: 4) (Real: 0) (No=20
> >> > > > > opinion/not sure:1).
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Byron - I assume - no opinion? If a real vote let me know.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Also feel
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > free to post any reasons why you feel it's a fake or real....
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "colonialjohn" <johnmen=
c@>=20
> >> > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > RR 40 Current Pole Census: (Fake: 3) (Real: 0) (No opinion/n=
ot=20
> >> > > > > > sure:0) Also feel free to post any reasons why you feel it's=
a=20
> >> > > > > > fake or real....
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, CMcdon0923@ wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > > I can probably make one for you if you'd like, Alan.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Or I can offer you this Ryder 41.....currently=20
> >> > > > > > > unique....price available on
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > > request.
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> >> > > > > > > In a message dated 2/23/2012 8:42:14 A.M. Central Standard=
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> >> > > > > > > Time,
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> >> > > > > > > vacoinage@ writes:
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> >> > > > > > > ??? Got one for sale???????? Hummmm??????
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > > In a message dated 2/23/2012 9:26:48 A.M. Eastern Standard=
=20
> >> > > > > > > Time,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > > johnmenc@ writes:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Does anybody here have an issue with this variety not bei=
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> >> > > > > > > totally
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > > genuine in today's marketplace?
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font: inherit;">John L,<div><br></div><div>E-Bay killed it?!?=
!?!?!?!?!?!?!?<div><br></div><div>Bill Jr.and Bill III rented some of the p=
riciest real estate in the Financial District, made close to $500,000 in im=
provements to the facility to sell coins that are now selling on eBay??????=
??</div><div><br></div><div>Really........?!?</div><div><br></div><div>Roge=
r ....(a one time CPA)<br><br>--- On <b>Thu, 2/23/12, colonialjohn <i><j=
ohnmenc@optonline.net></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style=3D"border-lef=
t: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>Fr=
om: colonialjohn <johnmenc@optonline.net><br>Subject: [Colonial Numis=
matics] Re: Wall Street Rarities<br>To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com<br>D=
ate: Thursday, February 23, 2012, 10:32 AM<br><br><div id=3D"yiv20139136">
<div>
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<p>E-Bay killed it.<br>
<br>
--- In <a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:colonial-coins%40yahoogroups.c=
om" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Dcolonial-coins%40yahoogroups=
.com">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</a>, Ray Williams <njraywms@...>=
wrote:<br>
><br>
> John,<br>
> What ever happened to Wall Street Rarities? Why did it shut its d=
oors?<br>
> Ray<br>
> <br>
> --------------------------------------------------<br>
> From: "colonialjohn" <johnmenc@...><br>
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:37 PM<br>
> To: <<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:colonial-coins%40yahoogr=
oups.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Dcolonial-coins%40yahoo=
groups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</a>><br>
> Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Civil War Token Hub Trials<br>
> <br>
> > OK. You are talking about the civil war token hub trials. Yes. Ca=
n't <br>
> > recall the person in Pa.. Anton bought the group intact from this=
<br>
> > collector/dealer and there were 8-9 pieces. All were die-linked =
with <br>
> > current Rulau listed CW tokens. Bought 2-3 of these ... sold 2-3 =
on E-Bay <br>
> > for Bill. He wanted to keep (2). Pretty sure Stacks said KOOL as =
I <br>
> > consigned (1) or (2)? ... sold as part of my Stacks C.G. dumps po=
st -2008 <br>
> > Americana. They thought they were the real McCoy. Brought $400-60=
0/ea. on <br>
> > E-Bay for Bill. Likewise in the C.G.'s from memory. Everyone was =
satisfied <br>
> > ... E-Bay buyers and Stacks and the subsequent customers. Bill ha=
s (1) <br>
> > or(2) left. After 2008 after my Sale ... my interest moved on to =
other <br>
> > pieces. For awhile pre-2008 I sold alot of exonumia stuff and CC'=
s for <br>
> > Bill on E-Bay as you may know ... if I liked something he usually=
gave me <br>
> > a 25% discount. Sold hundreds ... I was going to tell Mr. Coin X =
I <br>
> > actually handled 20,000 pieces in my life and mostly at Wall Stre=
et <br>
> > Rarities as part of our multi-million dollar inventory at the tim=
e ... but <br>
> > then there is a guy from Canada that wants to turn me into a lawn=
ornamnet <br>
> > but I am going to try to educate him on the in's/out's of EBSD/SE=
M and how <br>
> > to properly report microanalysis data so I will keep the figure a=
t 10,000 <br>
> > pieces ... long story Byron <BG>.<br>
> ><br>
> > JPL<br>
> ><br>
> > --- In <a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:colonial-coins%40yah=
oogroups.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Dcolonial-coins%40y=
ahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</a>, "Byron" <bkw11@> =
wrote:<br>
> >><br>
> >> I suppose I could research the message files to find out more=
about the <br>
> >> die trials, but if you don't mind, John, please refresh my me=
mory. As <br>
> >> best I recall, many of them originated with a gentleman in PA=
before they <br>
> >> were, in turn, then sold to you, is that correct?<br>
> >><br>
> >> Byron<br>
> >><br>
> >> --- In <a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:colonial-coins%4=
0yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Dcolonial-coins=
%40yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</a>, "colonialjohn" <=
johnmenc@> wrote:<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > OK.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > I hate die trials ... but only from a metal detecting or=
igin. Set-up <br>
> >> > piece? <BG>.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > a RR 40 Current Pole Census: (Fake: 4) (Real: 0) (No opi=
nion/not <br>
> >> > sure:1).<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > --- In <a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:colonial-co=
ins%40yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Dcolonial-=
coins%40yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</a>, "Byron" <bk=
w11@> wrote:<br>
> >> > ><br>
> >> > > I think you could classify my "no opinion" more as =
a "not sayin'" <br>
> >> > > John. I do have an opinion about their status, and =
even an opinion <br>
> >> > > about where they were made, but I'm just not sayin'=
!<br>
> >> > ><br>
> >> > > BTW, John, you still got any of those "die trials?"=
<s><br>
> >> > ><br>
> >> > > Byron<br>
> >> > ><br>
> >> > > --- In <a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:coloni=
al-coins%40yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Dcolo=
nial-coins%40yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</a>, "colonial=
john" <johnmenc@> <br>
> >> > > wrote:<br>
> >> > > ><br>
> >> > > > RR 40 Current Pole Census: (Fake: 4) (Real: 0)=
(No opinion/not <br>
> >> > > > sure:2).<br>
> >> > > ><br>
> >> > > ><br>
> >> > > > --- In <a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:c=
olonial-coins%40yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=
=3Dcolonial-coins%40yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</a>, ma=
rcus mayhugh <remi66111@> <br>
> >> > > > wrote:<br>
> >> > > > ><br>
> >> > > > > John,<br>
> >> > > > > You can put me down as a "Not sure". Unle=
ss everybody knows <br>
> >> > > > > something I don't.<br>
> >> > > > > 1. It is not hard to imagine a V 13 obver=
se married to a Vermont <br>
> >> > > > > L reverse.Both probably being produced at=
the same factory. 13 is <br>
> >> > > > > also married with two unlikely Connecticu=
t reverses of Machin <br>
> >> > > > > manufacture. 2. The person who discovered=
it,Ron Guth, is very <br>
> >> > > > > reputable and it was found in a top notch=
museum. As Ray said, <br>
> >> > > > > how hard is it to smuggle something into =
the Smithsonian.Maybe <br>
> >> > > > > someone can shed some light on that.3. I =
have not seen the edge. <br>
> >> > > > > It would likely have a seam if concocted.=
To be perfectly honest, <br>
> >> > > > > if I hadn't have heard everybody putting =
it down, all the <br>
> >> > > > > basement jokes ect....I don't know what I=
would think.<br>
> >> > > > > Marc<br>
> >> > > > ><br>
> >> > > > > --- On Thu, 2/23/12, colonialjohn <joh=
nmenc@> wrote:<br>
> >> > > > ><br>
> >> > > > > From: colonialjohn <johnmenc@><br>
> >> > > > > Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Vermo=
nt RR40<br>
> >> > > > > To: <a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto=
:colonial-coins%40yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=
=3Dcolonial-coins%40yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</a><br>
> >> > > > > Date: Thursday, February 23, 2012, 9:42 A=
M<br>
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> >> > > > ><br>
> >> > > > ><br>
> >> > > > ><br>
> >> > > > > RR 40 Current Pole Census: (Fake: 4=
) (Real: 0) (No <br>
> >> > > > > opinion/not sure:1).<br>
> >> > > > ><br>
> >> > > > ><br>
> >> > > > ><br>
> >> > > > > Byron - I assume - no opinion? If a real =
vote let me know.<br>
> >> > > > ><br>
> >> > > > ><br>
> >> > > > ><br>
> >> > > > > Also feel<br>
> >> > > > ><br>
> >> > > > > free to post any reasons why you feel it'=
s a fake or real....<br>
> >> > > > ><br>
> >> > > > ><br>
> >> > > > ><br>
> >> > > > > --- In <a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mai=
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