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From: "Stephens, Stan" <sstephens@hsc.wvu.edu>
Subject: A Voce 'whatisit' connecting Fred W., David P, and me
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I bought a coin from Fred Weinberg, maybe the only one, many years ago and =
now that I remember this I can partially answer a question that David P and=
I was trying to figure out back in Boston over an aquistion that David rec=
ently made. A whatisit sort of question. The coins in question have obverse=
s that resemble very closely a Voce Populi type, I do have a picture, but n=
ot with me the coin in question is a 'large' I'm guessing 1/2 ounce, 'moder=
n' by that I mean 50 years more or less pure silver representation of a Voc=
e Populi N1 halfpence or a N1 farthing since they are similar compared toge=
ther or to the silver piece in question. Only the obverse was done to look =
like a VP and sitting here typing this I can't remember what the reverse is=
about except that it does not give an obvious hint to its maker. The engra=
ving is pretty good work, not in the least bit crude.
David now has this 'whatisit' in copper. If a piece done in gold turns up n=
ow that would be a big shocker but I would not be surprised to see base met=
al examples, however its been at least 10 years since I got my silver coin =
and I still haven't heard about any others, pewter or otherwise until this =
copper example landed into David's deserving hand.
The go-to 'Steve's, Tannenbaum and Hayden neither had seen one before and =
neither had the always 'go-to Mike guy' aka Ringo, still the best of handle=
's
David, if you read this and you care to take a picture of your coin and pos=
t it and I'll go through my Noye's collection of photographs and find mine =
and post it to see if anyone here has seen one.
These two coins beg the question why and I'm always a sucker for that plus =
it might just be an "American" struck VP and perhaps an X-Ray analysis wou=
ld be called for......what do you say John? A little scratch won't harm t=
he prooflike surface of the reverse that much :)
Back to Fred W. for a second, he had come across this coin a few months bef=
ore we saw each other in Vegas for EAC and he told me that he had something=
put away for me and had not put it in his case because he knew I would wan=
t it and felt that I should have it because of my interest in Voce Populi's=
.
Evidently I had made an impression however minor compared to what he had do=
ne with his mentor and friend Arnie. Good impressions are usually rewarded =
while bad impressions almost never are and not easily forgotten.
Ending this with an acknowlegment of a good life to Arnie Margolis.
Stan
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"calibri">I bought a coin from Fred Weinberg,=
maybe the only one, many years ago and now that I remember this I can part=
ially answer a question that David P and I was trying to figure out back in=
Boston over an aquistion that David
recently made. A whatisit sort of question. The coins in question hav=
e obverses that resemble very closely a Voce Populi type, I do ha=
ve a picture, but not with me the coin in question is a 'large' I'm guessin=
g 1/2 ounce, 'modern' by that I mean 50 years more
or less pure silver representation of a Voce Populi N1 halfpence or a=
N1 farthing since they are similar compared together or to the silver=
piece in question. Only the obverse was done to look like a VP and sitting=
here typing this I can't remember what the
reverse is about except that it does not give an obvious hint to its maker=
. The engraving is pretty good work, not in the least bit crude.</font></di=
v>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"calibri"></font> </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"calibri">David now has this 'whatisit' in co=
pper. If a piece done in gold turns up now that would be a big shocker but =
I would not be surprised to see base metal examples, however its been =
at least 10 years since I got my silver coin and
I still haven't heard about any others, pewter or otherwise until thi=
s copper example landed into David's deserving hand.</font></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"calibri"></font> </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"calibri"> The go-to 'Steve's, =
;Tannenbaum and Hayden neither had seen one before and neither had the alwa=
ys 'go-to Mike guy' aka Ringo, still the best of handle's</font></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"calibri"></font> </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"calibri">David, if you read this and you car=
e to take a picture of your coin and post it and I'll go through my&nb=
sp;Noye's collection of photographs and find mine and post it to see if any=
one here has seen one.</font></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"calibri"></font> </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"calibri">These two coins beg the question wh=
y and I'm always a sucker for that plus it might just be an &quo=
t;American" struck VP and perhaps an X-Ray analysis would be &nbs=
p;called for......what do you say John? A little scratch won't harm
the prooflike surface of the reverse that much :)</font></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"calibri"></font> </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"calibri">Back to Fred W. for a second, he ha=
d come across this coin a few months before we saw each other in Vegas for =
EAC and he told me that he had something put away for me and had not put it=
in his case because he knew I would
want it and felt that I should have it because of my interest in Voce Popu=
li's. </font>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"calibri"></font> </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"calibri">Evidently I had made an impression&=
nbsp;however minor compared to what he had done with his mentor and fr=
iend Arnie. Good impressions are usually rewarded while bad impression=
s almost never are and not easily forgotten.</font></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"calibri"></font> </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"calibri">Ending this with an acknowlegm=
ent of a good life to Arnie Margolis.</font></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"calibri">Stan</font></div>
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