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Return-Path: <johnmenc@optonline.net> X-Sender: johnmenc@optonline.net X-Apparently-To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 51471 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2012 16:19:37 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.35.161) by m3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Aug 2012 16:19:37 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng7-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.83) by mta5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 2012 16:19:27 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.0.86] by ng7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2012 16:19:22 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.51] by tg6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2012 16:19:22 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 16:19:22 -0000 To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <k130qa+eate@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <k12q7b+3buh@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 96.56.209.230 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 96.56.209.230 From: "colonialjohn" <johnmenc@optonline.net> Subject: Re: Wood 36 Backfire X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=111282553; y=Y2V3hKGXcLKMGJn4iTk3P5DtDJ7tohEkH62FRs8WqaQteDqR1ZfLq3e0-w X-Yahoo-Profile: colonial_john_c4
Fair enough ... alot has to do also with "COIN IN HAND." Ironically, Bill h= as no plans to sell the coin anytime soon - but IF a Ryder 40 comes up for = auction or when it sells privately (this specimen or the others) ... they w= ill have this information to agree with or discredit based on their own obs= ervations. There are alot of pieces in my own mind that the true origins ar= e questionable or still remain unknown - RI Ship Token, Elephant Tokens, Pr= e-1717 Rosa Americana Patterns, Ryder 5 Casts, Canadian Blackmsith Woods 35= -46, Stand-Alone non-linked Machin Mills varieities, etc. ...=20
--- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "Byron" <bkw11@...> wrote: > > I'll believe it when I read it, John, but I'd also expect Bill not to bac= k down on some his other outlandish claims - RR40, for example - and he wil= l use your XRF testing as his justification, even if it doesn't have any re= al relevance. >=20 > I think I can be a little more objective about it than you, as I don't re= ally owe Bill anything. Which also means that I probably know him better th= an you do. >=20 > Byron >=20 > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "colonialjohn" <johnmenc@> wrote: > > > > Jeff - Not everything is pro-Anton for this book. The Wood 36 has been = confirmed as a CAST. A bronze cast with Sn=3D5% and Pb=3D15%. This is the f= irst reported cast Wood Blacksmith variety. What does this do to its credib= ility? It will take years to delist W33 to an Evasion status ... what of th= is discovery and its impact to its delisting or current status? Currently t= he Anton piece is the finest of three known (Anton, ANS, Bank of Canada, ma= ybe a fourth?). Not sure of its AK # but you know the piece as well as I do= ... he did seem very depressed about it ... who would not be? This seems = to be nothing more than a crude retrograde British imported cast from the G= II period? (1741?). > >=20 > > The TRUTH Byron ... <BG>. > >=20 > > Here is an excerpt from my C4 article for W36:=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > Wood 36: The obverse head as the same general appearance as Wood 34 & W= ood 35 with the infamous retrograde date reading 1471 which was doubtless i= ntended for 1741. The William Anton Collection houses this variety as well = as the Bank of Canada Money Museum. With this type of retrograde date it ap= pears to be British than Canadian. > > >
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