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From: "Gord Nichols" <gnichols@cogeco.ca>
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Stacks C4 Kleeberg Two Reales: Wnuck Collection: Unlisted Update
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Too late I found it...
http://stacksbowers.com/Auctions/AuctionLots.aspx?AuctionID=3D144&Keyword=
=3DWnuck%20Collection
Gord
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Gord Nichols=20
To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Stacks C4 Kleeberg Two Reales: Wn=
uck Collection: Unlisted Update
=20=20=20=20
John
Can you send a clicker to take us to this collection?
Thanks=20
Gord
----- Original Message -----=20
From: colonialjohn=20
To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 7:56 PM
Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Stacks C4 Kleeberg Two Reales: Wnuc=
k Collection: Unlisted Update
=20=20=20=20=20=20
More specifically - missing dates remain as UNLISTED until some future =
researcher wishes to change this rule. Not so for mintmarks (i.e., NK desig=
nations).
--- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "colonialjohn" <johnmenc@...> wr=
ote:
>
> No real need for pictures except for one lot (#6933) but it should no=
t change anything after they uploaded. Having said that if your bidding on =
this collection and you win any of these lots PLEASE put down these Kleeber=
g #'s into the envelope for future reference. Having said that here are the=
Kleeberg numbers for the Stacks unlisted varieities for this upcoming coll=
ection:
>=20
> Lot # 6896: K.18A-L20 (listed in CNL-145 but not entered into catalou=
ge?)
>=20
> Lot #6905: K.78D-NK11. With the missing mintmark missed in the CNL-14=
5 paper. It gets the next available obverse/reverse designation.
>=20
> Lot#6933: K.97F-L2 (Vicken & J.K. JPL will cross-check L32/L33/L35 & =
L36 - not yet published) but since you had the coin in hand we will stick w=
ith your recommendation of L2. It can be changed later if necessary by the =
next owner since its disrupts no current obverse/reverse listing sequence.
>=20
> Lot#6938: None. Open for further study and evaluation. Recommend send=
ing to JPL for possible K designation.
>=20
> Lot#6940 & 6941: K.04A-L31. Already corrected in the next CNL paper c=
urrently with Oliver for publication.
>=20
> Lot#6956: K.18C-NK12.
>=20
> Lot#6962: No recommendation. To be studied at a later date for possib=
le entry into this CC family.
>=20
> From this collection only two new varieities have been entered. I wil=
l send Oliver again another CNL paper probably at the end of 2013/early 201=
4. The number of new varieites have SLOWED DOWN significantly and number at=
78 varieities at this time. Again missing dates and debased silver alloys =
(i.e., billon alloy) do not qualify for this counterfeit family.
>=20
> JPL
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "colonialjohn" <johnmenc@> wro=
te:
> >
> > Kleeberg Two Reales: Wnuck Collection
> >=20
> > A couple of points:
> >=20
> > 1. First and foremost another incredible catalouging job by Stacks!
> > 2. Any collector needing the digital version of the CNL so you can =
ZOOM IN to the Plate Coins just E-Mail me privately.
> > 3. I have submitted another Kleeberg CC2R update to Oliver which sh=
ould be in the next CNL. All the coins which are Kleeberg/Lorenzo-unlisted =
in this sale I will review and post the Kleeberg varieities here before the=
auction with lot #s and Kleeberg numbers.
> > 4. If the coin has no date it will remain without a Kleeberg design=
ation at this point rather than giving it something like a KXX-M (mintmark)=
1 designation.
> > 5. Finally - a great collection Dave - congratulations on forming s=
uch a diverse holding of this series.
> >=20
> > Good Luck!
> >=20
> > JPL
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, Ray Williams <njraywms@> wro=
te:
> > >
> > > Thanks Bruce,
> > > Here's a direct link to the catalog:
> > > http://stacksbowers.com/auctions/AuctionLots.aspx?AuctionID=3D144=
&SessionID=3D372
> > > Ray
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > From: Bruce Smith=20
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 11:53 PM
> > > To: colonial-coins=20
> > > Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Stack's catalog
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > The Stack's catalog is online, but no photos yet.=20
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > Bruce
> > >
> >
>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Too late I found it...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><A=20
href=3D"http://stacksbowers.com/Auctions/AuctionLots.aspx?AuctionID=3D144&a=
mp;Keyword=3DWnuck%20Collection">http://stacksbowers.com/Auctions/AuctionLo=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Gord</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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m:</B>=20
<A title=3Dgnichols@cogeco.ca href=3D"mailto:gnichols@cogeco.ca">Gord Nic=
hols</A>=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dcolonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=20
href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogroups=
.com</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 24, 2012 =
7:58=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Colonial Numismatics=
] Re:=20
Stacks C4 Kleeberg Two Reales: Wnuck Collection: Unlisted Update</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><SPAN style=3D"DISPLAY: none"> </SPAN>=20
<DIV id=3Dygrp-text>
<P>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>John</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Can you send a clicker to take us to thi=
s=20
collection?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Gord</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Djohnmenc@optonline.net=20
href=3D"mailto:johnmenc@optonline.net">colonialjohn</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dcolonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=20
href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogrou=
ps.com</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 24, 201=
2 7:56=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Colonial Numismatics] =
Re:=20
Stacks C4 Kleeberg Two Reales: Wnuck Collection: Unlisted Update</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><SPAN> </SPAN>=20
<DIV id=3Dygrp-text>
<P>More specifically - missing dates remain as UNLISTED until some futu=
re=20
researcher wishes to change this rule. Not so for mintmarks (i.e., NK=20
designations).<BR><BR>--- In <A=20
href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogrou=
ps.com</A>,=20
"colonialjohn" <johnmenc@...> wrote:<BR>><BR>> No real need=
for=20
pictures except for one lot (#6933) but it should not change anything a=
fter=20
they uploaded. Having said that if your bidding on this collection and =
you=20
win any of these lots PLEASE put down these Kleeberg #'s into the envel=
ope=20
for future reference. Having said that here are the Kleeberg numbers fo=
r the=20
Stacks unlisted varieities for this upcoming collection:<BR>> <BR>&g=
t;=20
Lot # 6896: K.18A-L20 (listed in CNL-145 but not entered into=20
catalouge?)<BR>> <BR>> Lot #6905: K.78D-NK11. With the missing=20
mintmark missed in the CNL-145 paper. It gets the next available=20
obverse/reverse designation.<BR>> <BR>> Lot#6933: K.97F-L2 (Vicke=
n=20
& J.K. JPL will cross-check L32/L33/L35 & L36 - not yet publish=
ed)=20
but since you had the coin in hand we will stick with your recommendati=
on of=20
L2. It can be changed later if necessary by the next owner since its=20
disrupts no current obverse/reverse listing sequence.<BR>> <BR>>=
=20
Lot#6938: None. Open for further study and evaluation. Recommend sendin=
g to=20
JPL for possible K designation.<BR>> <BR>> Lot#6940 & 6941:=20
K.04A-L31. Already corrected in the next CNL paper currently with Olive=
r for=20
publication.<BR>> <BR>> Lot#6956: K.18C-NK12.<BR>> <BR>>=20
Lot#6962: No recommendation. To be studied at a later date for possible=
=20
entry into this CC family.<BR>> <BR>> From this collection only t=
wo=20
new varieities have been entered. I will send Oliver again another CNL =
paper=20
probably at the end of 2013/early 2014. The number of new varieites hav=
e=20
SLOWED DOWN significantly and number at 78 varieities at this time. Aga=
in=20
missing dates and debased silver alloys (i.e., billon alloy) do not qua=
lify=20
for this counterfeit family.<BR>> <BR>> JPL<BR>> <BR>> <BR>=
>=20
<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> --- In <A=20
href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins%40yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogr=
oups.com</A>,=20
"colonialjohn" <johnmenc@> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> > Kleeb=
erg=20
Two Reales: Wnuck Collection<BR>> > <BR>> > A couple of=20
points:<BR>> > <BR>> > 1. First and foremost another incred=
ible=20
catalouging job by Stacks!<BR>> > 2. Any collector needing the di=
gital=20
version of the CNL so you can ZOOM IN to the Plate Coins just E-Mail me=
=20
privately.<BR>> > 3. I have submitted another Kleeberg CC2R updat=
e to=20
Oliver which should be in the next CNL. All the coins which are=20
Kleeberg/Lorenzo-unlisted in this sale I will review and post the Kleeb=
erg=20
varieities here before the auction with lot #s and Kleeberg numbers.<BR=
>>=20
> 4. If the coin has no date it will remain without a Kleeberg=20
designation at this point rather than giving it something like a KXX-M=
=20
(mintmark)1 designation.<BR>> > 5. Finally - a great collection D=
ave -=20
congratulations on forming such a diverse holding of this series.<BR>&g=
t;=20
> <BR>> > Good Luck!<BR>> > <BR>> > JPL<BR>> &g=
t;=20
<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >=20
<BR>> > <BR>> > --- In <A=20
href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins%40yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogr=
oups.com</A>,=20
Ray Williams <njraywms@> wrote:<BR>> > ><BR>> > &g=
t;=20
Thanks Bruce,<BR>> > > Here's a direct link to the catalog:<BR=
>>=20
> > <A=20
href=3D"http://stacksbowers.com/auctions/AuctionLots.aspx?AuctionID=3D1=
44&SessionID=3D372">http://stacksbowers.com/auctions/AuctionLots.aspx?A=
uctionID=3D144&SessionID=3D372</A><BR>>=20
> > Ray<BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > >=20
<BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > From: Bruce Sm=
ith=20
<BR>> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 11:53 PM<BR>> >=
;=20
> To: colonial-coins <BR>> > > Subject: [Colonial Numismati=
cs]=20
Stack's catalog<BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > >=
=20
<BR>> > > <BR>> > > The Stack's catalog is online, bu=
t no=20
photos yet. <BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > >=20
Bruce<BR>> > ><BR>> ><BR>><BR><BR></P></DIV><!-- end =
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