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- From bkw11@psu.edu Thu Dec 27 08:29:51 2012
Return-Path: <bkw11@psu.edu> X-Sender: bkw11@psu.edu X-Apparently-To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 55385 invoked from network); 27 Dec 2012 16:29:50 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m13.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Dec 2012 16:29:50 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ng2-ip2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (98.139.164.141) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Dec 2012 16:29:50 -0000 X-Received: from [98.139.164.124] by ng2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Dec 2012 16:29:49 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.32] by tg5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Dec 2012 16:29:49 -0000 Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:29:49 -0000 To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <kbht1t+hm3m@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <kbhrh0+j00t@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 108.15.129.133 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 108.15.129.133 From: "Byron" <bkw11@psu.edu> Subject: Re: DANSKE AMERICANSK X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=158000954; y=DJAsZbtO81NhsWN8RSx6uHuz77APL9joWgaf0RYqKtNWYJg X-Yahoo-Profile: bkweston
Same here, Will, no signs of silvering whatsoever, and only a recent golden= rub on a high point, which obviously makes it is more on the brassy side t= han the bronzey side.<s>
Another thing I did notice is that it is a slightly smaller diameter than m= y GT.
Byron
--- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "dadpleasesendmoney" <books@...> wro= te: > > The one I have has scarcely any wear. I doubt that it ever had any silver= ing. Will >=20 > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "colonialjohn" <johnmenc@> wrote: > > > > Byron - one last comment - NEVER assume total brass after a quick 5X ma= gnifier look - I have examined (XRF) brass counterfeits of silver denominat= ions to the eye they llooked like brass and have picked up 2-4% Ag in the a= nalysis in a FEW cases - check the edges of all the lettering with a loop -= just saying ... the silvering could be 99.5 % gone ...=20 > >=20 > > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "dadpleasesendmoney" <books@> wr= ote: > > > > > >=20 > > > Byron, I believe that Syd has found pretty compelling evidence that t= hey are of Birmingham origin. At the time I was holding out the possibilit= y of anorher mint site. Robert Vlack's assertion that the GTs circulated f= irst in the West Indies seemed to suggest a possible second distribution sc= heme and the mulings made me consider the possibility that a mint might hav= e existed there (long shot). I also thought that Ireland was a long shot pi= ssibilty. When asked, Mr Vlack could not recall the source of his assertio= n. I have a nice unsulvered counterfeit and several originals. I believe = rhey shiuld be upgraded as ti American status. Typing on my phine si sorry = for typos. Will > > > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "Byron" <bkw11@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Well, Santa didn't bring it but it arrived on Christmas eve, and it= hasn't been paid for yet. Each year about this time a dealer sends me a o= f coins he thinks I may have an interest in and among those was a 24 Skilli= ng Danish West Indies - now the American Virgin Islands - piece. Interestin= gly it is in brass, not silver, and weighs 5.3 g compared to the standard 6= .5 g. > > > > In Will Nipper's "In Yankee Doodle's Pocket" he mentions , on page = 270, that "In 2002 two examples of a very interesting counterfeit surfaced.= Both mule a die-worn Georgivs Triumpho obverse with an imitation of the re= verse from a 1767 twenty-four skilling pieces of the Danis West Indies. Gen= uine six, twelve and twenty-four skilling pieces are fifty percent silver. = The newly discovered mulse, however, are coppers." Will then goes on to que= stion where such a counterfeiting operation may have been. > > > > There were no pictures of these mules in Will' s book, and the diff= erence between those muled counterfiets and this one is the date; this one = is dated 1763, and it is not muled. To me, the muling with the GT obverse s= uggests Great Britain as a minting location, and circulation perhaps in Ame= rican as well as the then Danish West Indies for these copper/brass counter= feits.=20 > > > >=20 > > > > Any thoughts? > > > >=20 > > > > Byron > > > >=20 > > > > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, CMcdon0923@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Anyone want to share any numismatic goodies Santa may have droppe= d off? > > > > >=20=20 > > > > > Nothing for me.....I never include anything on my list, since I d= on't think=20 > > > > > any of my family would be interested in buying me an R6+ CT or V= T that I=20=20 > > > > > need. > > > > >=20=20 > > > > > Although, we did have a white Christmas here in Texas!=20=20 > > > > >=20=20 > > > > >=20=20 > > > > > It began with thunderstorms starting around 2:30am Christmas mor= ning which=20 > > > > > by around 9am had turned to sleet, but by 10:30 or so it was=20=20 > > > > > snowing......and it kept up until about 6pm. We got a total of b= etween 3 to 4". > > > > >=20 > > > > >=20=20 > > > > > I can only recall maybe two since we've lived here but I'm pretty= sure this=20 > > > > > is the first one where it actually snowed on Christmas day !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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