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I really wish NY and the FUN shows weren't on the exact dates -- someone
really needs to do some better planning! Maybe move NY so that it's a few
days before the Americana sale and people can come in and do it all in a
long NY weekend!
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:12 PM, william gleckler <wgleckler@sbcglobal.net>w=
rote:
> **
>
>
> whippersnapper!
>
> On Jan 3, 2013, at 5:56 PM, PLMossman@aol.com wrote:
>
>
>
> Sorry - a goof!
> Appendix 5 was John Beale Bordley "A Treatise on Copper Coin."
> I quoted Mease's from the *1838 Mass Historical Society Proceedings*.
> Hint: when you get to be my age don't do things from memory!
> Phil
>
>
> In a message dated 1/3/2013 5:21:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> PLMossman@aol.com writes:
>
>
> FYI - One of Mease's articles was reprinted as Appendix 5 in *Money,*cour=
tesy of Eric
> *.*
> Phil
>
> In a message dated 1/3/2013 3:05:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> remi66111@yahoo.com writes:
>
>
>
> I remember reading Mease's article in one of those huge New York
> history books. I even wrote a little something in C4, wondering about wha=
t
> happened to the coins he discussed.
> Marc
>
> --- On *Thu, 1/3/13, David Fanning <fanning32@gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: David Fanning <fanning32@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Kolbe & Fanning sale Jan. 12
> To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, January 3, 2013, 12:25 PM
>
>
>
> Hi, John--
>
> Thanks for writing. It's pretty darn rare, though I have sold one before.
> I've pasted the lot description below. Eric Newman "rediscovered" the
> writings of Mease in the 1990s, I believe, and he considers this to be th=
e
> first U.S. numismatic article on coins. (There are a couple older article=
s
> on American medals.)
>
> All best,
>
> David
>
> The First Numismatic Article on American Coins
>
> 230 Mease, James. Old American Coins. *Collections of
> the Massachusetts Historical Society*. Third Series, Vol. VII (1838).
> Boston: Charles C. Little and James Brown; printed by Freeman and Bolles.
> 8vo [24 by 15.5 cm], finely bound in recent tan quarter morocco with dark
> green cloth sides; spine with five raised bands, ruled and lettered in
> gilt. 304, (2) pages. [Mease=92s article comprises pages 282 to 283.] Som=
e
> light occasional spotting, else fine. (2750.00)
>
> Mease=92s 1838 article is =93the first numismatic article on American coi=
ns
> published in America,=94 according to Eric Newman (*The Asylum*, Summer
> 1992). Of the highest importance and rarity: we are aware of only one oth=
er
> copy having been offered to the numismatic market via auction. Brief as i=
t
> may be, this work is the foundation upon which U.S. numismatic scholarshi=
p
> has been constructed. Indeed, it is of greater value than merely as a
> curiosity or historical artifact: Newman=92s aforementioned article discu=
sses
> how Mease=92s comments on the Bar Cent and the circulating value of
> Connecticut coppers have important implications for current scholarship o=
n
> these pieces.
>
> James Mease, M.D. (1771=961846) was a polymath who published on an number=
of
> different subjects, including medicine, geology and history. His *Picture
> of Philadelphia* (1811) is a foundational work of local history and
> contains the first useful description of the U.S. Mint operations. In
> addition, he is considered to be the first writer to publish on the subje=
ct
> of U.S. numismatics. In a groundbreaking series of three articles (of whi=
ch
> this is the last), Mease examined U.S. medals and coins from the
> perspective of the numismatist. In his groundbreaking lecture on the topi=
c
> of U.S. numismatic literature, William S.F. Mayers noted that =93the firs=
t
> actual attempts at systematic classification and record of the coins stru=
ck
> in or for the American colonies and United States, appear in the shape of
> papers to be found in the collections of State Historical Societies=94 (=
=93The
> Literature of American Numismatics,=94 *Norton=92s Literary Letter*, No. =
3,
> 1859, p. 6). Mease=92s articles are specifically mentioned by Mayers in h=
is
> article, showing that these works, long forgotten until recent years, wer=
e
> still in the memory of some in the late 1850s. A very rare publication; a=
n
> equally rare opportunity. Unlisted in Attinelli. Ex Joel J. Orosz library=
.
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:48 PM, colonialjohn <johnmenc@optonline.net>wro=
te:
>
> **
>
>
> Dave -
>
> As usual see at you at 9AM on Saturday. Looking forward to this item:
>
> James Mease's 1838 "Old American Coins," the first numismatic article on
> American coins.
>
> Never seen one or anyone ever refer to one ... .
>
> How rare is it?
>
> JPL
>
> --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, David Fanning wrote:
> >
> > *Kolbe & Fanning New York Auction January 12*
> >
> > Kolbe & Fanning will be holding their annual New York Book Auction on
> > January 12 in conjunction with the New York International Numismatic
> > Convention at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel. The sale includes a number of
> lots
> > of interest to colonial collectors including:
> >
> > --J. Francis Fisher's 1837 "Description of American Medals"
> >
> > --An original Hall on 1787 Connecticut coppers
> >
> > --Armand Champa's large-paper copy of Hickcox on NY currency, in an Ala=
n
> > Grace binding
> >
> > --Materials from the personal research archives of Vladimir and Elvira
> > Clain-Stefanelli, including their archives on American medals
> >
> > --The Washingtonia archives of Jack Collins
> >
> > --A beautifully bound set of Loubat on American medals
> >
> > --James Mease's 1838 "Old American Coins," the first numismatic article
> on
> > American coins
> >
> > --An original Crosby, ex Armand Champa, beautifully bound by Alan Grace
> >
> > --John Oldmixon's 1721 "Brittanische Ryk in Amerika," a rare work with
> > information on coinage in New England, Virginia and Barbados
> >
> > --Carl W=FCrtzbach's work on Massachusetts silver
> >
> > --Plated copies of classic auction sales including Beckwith, James B.
> > Wilson, Gschwend, Jenks and R. Coulton Davis, as well as a previously
> > unrecorded Geoffrey Charlton Adams sale with photographic plates.
> >
> > The full catalogue can be downloaded in PDF form from the Kolbe & Fanni=
ng
> > website at www.numislit.com. Live internet bidding is available through
> > the-saleroom.com, which also features illustrations of every lot. For
> full
> > bidding instructions, please see the catalogue.
> >
> > David Fanning can be reached at df@... or by phone at (614)
> > 256-8915.
> >
> > ###
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > David F. Fanning
> >
> > Kolbe & Fanning Numismatic Booksellers LLC
> > 141 W. Johnstown Rd.
> > Gahanna, OH 43230
> > (614) 414-0855
> > Fax (614) 414-0860
> > Cell (614) 256-8915
> > www.numislit.com
> >
>
>
>
>
> --
> David F. Fanning
>
> Kolbe & Fanning Numismatic Booksellers LLC
> 141 W. Johnstown Rd.
> Gahanna, OH 43230
> (614) 414-0855
> Fax (614) 414-0860
> Cell (614) 256-8915
> www.numislit.com
>
>
>
>
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I really wish NY and the FUN shows weren't on the exact dates -- someon=
e really needs to do some better planning!=A0 Maybe move NY so that it'=
s a few days before the Americana sale and people can come in and do it all=
in a long NY weekend!<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:12 PM, william glec=
kler <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:wgleckler@sbcglobal.net" targe=
t=3D"_blank">wgleckler@sbcglobal.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote s=
tyle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204=
,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">
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<span>=A0</span>
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<p>whippersnapper!<div><div class=3D"h5"><br><div><div>On Jan 3, 2013=
, at 5:56 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:PLMossman@aol.com" target=3D"_blank">PLMoss=
man@aol.com</a> wrote:</div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>
<span>=A0</span>
<div><div>
<font color=3D"#000000" size=3D"4" face=3D"Times New Roman">
</font><br></div><div><font color=3D"#000000" size=3D"4" face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><font size=3D"4">Sorry - a goof!</font></font></div><font color=3D"#=
000000" size=3D"4" face=3D"Times New Roman">
<div><font size=3D"4">Appendix 5 was John Beale Bordley "A Treatise on=
Copper Coin."=20
</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"4">I quoted Mease's from the <em>1838 Mass Historica=
l Society=20
Proceedings</em>.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"4">Hint: when you get to be my age don't do things f=
rom memory!=20
</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"4">Phil</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"4"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"4"></font>=A0</div>
<div>
<div>In a message dated 1/3/2013 5:21:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20
<a href=3D"mailto:PLMossman@aol.com" target=3D"_blank">PLMossman@aol.com</a=
> writes:<font style=3D"background-color:transparent" color=3D"#000000" fac=
e=3D"Arial"><span>=A0</span> </font></div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-left-color:blue;border-left-width:2px;border-le=
ft-style:solid">
<div>
<div>
<div><div><font color=3D"#000000" size=3D"4" face=3D"Times New Roman">
</font><br></div><div><font color=3D"#000000" size=3D"4" face=3D"Times Ne=
w Roman"><font size=3D"4">FYI - One of Mease's articles was reprinted a=
s Appendix 5 in=20
<em>Money,</em> courtesy of Eric<em>.</em></font></font></div><font color=
=3D"#000000" size=3D"4" face=3D"Times New Roman">
<div><font size=3D"4">Phil</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"4"></font>=A0</div>
<div>
<div>In a message dated 1/3/2013 3:05:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20
<a href=3D"mailto:remi66111@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">remi66111@yahoo.=
com</a> writes:</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-left-color:blue;border-left-width:2px;border-=
left-style:solid"><font style=3D"background-color:transparent" color=3D"#00=
0000" face=3D"Arial"><span>=A0</span>=20
<div><p>
<table border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td valign=3D"top">I remember reading Mease's article in one of=
those huge=20
New York history books. I even wrote a little something in C4,=20
wondering about what happened to the coins he discussed.=20
<div>Marc<br><br>--- On <b>Thu, 1/3/13, David Fanning=20
<i><<a href=3D"mailto:fanning32@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">f=
anning32@gmail.com</a>></i></b> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"border-left-color:rgb(16,16,255);border-left=
-width:2px;border-left-style:solid"><br>From:=20
David Fanning <<a href=3D"mailto:fanning32@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">fanning32@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Colonial=20
Numismatics] Re: Kolbe & Fanning sale Jan. 12<br>To:=20
<a href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_bl=
ank">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</a><br>Date: Thursday, January 3, 2013,=
=20
12:25 PM<br><br>
<div>
<div><span>=A0</span>=20
<div>
<p>Hi, John--<br><br>Thanks for writing. It's pretty darn r=
are,=20
though I have sold one before. I've pasted the lot descript=
ion=20
below. Eric Newman "rediscovered" the writings of Mea=
se in the=20
1990s, I believe, and he considers this to be the first U.S.=20
numismatic article on coins. (There are a couple older articles=
on=20
American medals.)<br><br>All best,<br><br>David<br><br></p>
<p>The First Numismatic Article on=20
American Coins</p>
<p><span style=3D"text-transform:uppercase">230<span>=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=20
</span></span>Mease, James. <span style=3D"text-transform:upper=
case">Old American Coins.</span>=20
<i>Collections of the Massachusetts Historical Society</i>. Thi=
rd=20
Series, Vol. VII (1838). Boston: Charles C. Little and James Br=
own;=20
printed by Freeman and Bolles. 8vo [24 by 15.5 cm], finely boun=
d in=20
recent tan quarter morocco with dark green cloth sides; spine w=
ith=20
five raised bands, ruled and lettered in gilt. 304, (2) pages.=
=20
[Mease=92s article comprises pages 282 to 283.] Some light occa=
sional=20
spotting, else=20
fine.<span>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=20
</span>(2750.00) </p>
<p>Mease=92s 1838 article is =93the first=20
numismatic article on American coins published in America,=94=20
according to Eric Newman (<i>The Asylum</i>, Summer 1992). Of t=
he=20
highest importance and rarity: we are aware of only one other c=
opy=20
having been offered to the numismatic market via auction. Brief=
as=20
it may be, this work is the foundation upon which U.S. numismat=
ic=20
scholarship has been constructed. Indeed, it is of greater valu=
e=20
than merely as a curiosity or historical artifact: Newman=92s=20
aforementioned article discusses how Mease=92s comments on the =
Bar=20
Cent and the circulating value of Connecticut coppers have impo=
rtant=20
implications for current scholarship on these pieces. </p>
<p>James Mease, M.D. (1771=961846) was a=20
polymath who published on an number of different subjects, incl=
uding=20
medicine, geology and history. His <i>Picture of Philadelphia</=
i>=20
(1811) is a foundational work of local history and contains the=
=20
first useful description of the U.S. Mint operations. In additi=
on,=20
he is considered to be the first writer to publish on the subje=
ct of=20
U.S. numismatics. In a groundbreaking series of three articles =
(of=20
which this is the last), Mease examined U.S. medals and coins f=
rom=20
the perspective of the numismatist. In his groundbreaking lectu=
re on=20
the topic of U.S. numismatic literature, William S.F. Mayers no=
ted=20
that =93the first actual attempts at systematic classification =
and=20
record of the coins struck in or for the American colonies and=
=20
United States, appear in the shape of papers to be found in the=
=20
collections of State Historical Societies=94 (=93The Literature=
of=20
American Numismatics,=94 <i>Norton=92s Literary Letter</i>, No.=
3, 1859,=20
p. 6). Mease=92s articles are specifically mentioned by Mayers =
in his=20
article, showing that these works, long forgotten until recent=
=20
years, were still in the memory of some in the late 1850s. A ve=
ry=20
rare publication; an equally rare opportunity. Unlisted in=20
Attinelli. Ex Joel J. Orosz library.</p><br><br>
<div>On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:48 PM,=20
colonialjohn <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a title=3D"http://mc/compos=
e?to=3Djohnmenc@optonline.net" rel=3D"nofollow">johnmenc@optonline.net</a>&=
gt;</span>=20
wrote:<br>
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left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><u></u>
<div><span>=A0</span>=20
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<div>
<div>
<p>Dave -<br><br>As usual see at you at 9AM on Saturday. Look=
ing=20
forward to this item:<br><br>James Mease's 1838 "Old=
American=20
Coins," the first numismatic article on American=20
coins.<br><br>Never seen one or anyone ever refer to one ...=
=20
.<br><br>How rare is it?<br><br>JPL<br><br>--- In <a title=3D=
"http://mc/compose?to=3Dcolonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" rel=3D"nofollow">co=
lonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</a>,=20
David Fanning wrote:<br>><br>> *Kolbe & Fanning New=
York=20
Auction January 12*<br>> <br>> Kolbe & Fanning will=
be=20
holding their annual New York Book Auction on<br>> January=
12=20
in conjunction with the New York International Numismatic<br>=
>=20
Convention at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel. The sale includes a=
=20
number of lots<br>> of interest to colonial collectors=20
including:<br>> <br>> --J. Francis Fisher's 1837=20
"Description of American Medals"<br>> <br>> -=
-An original=20
Hall on 1787 Connecticut coppers<br>> <br>> --Armand=20
Champa's large-paper copy of Hickcox on NY currency, in a=
n=20
Alan<br>> Grace binding<br>> <br>> --Materials from =
the=20
personal research archives of Vladimir and Elvira<br>>=20
Clain-Stefanelli, including their archives on American=20
medals<br>> <br>> --The Washingtonia archives of Jack=20
Collins<br>> <br>> --A beautifully bound set of Loubat =
on=20
American medals<br>> <br>> --James Mease's 1838 &qu=
ot;Old=20
American Coins," the first numismatic article on<br>>=
American=20
coins<br>> <br>> --An original Crosby, ex Armand Champa=
,=20
beautifully bound by Alan Grace<br>> <br>> --John Oldmi=
xon's=20
1721 "Brittanische Ryk in Amerika," a rare work wit=
h<br>>=20
information on coinage in New England, Virginia and=20
Barbados<br>> <br>> --Carl W=FCrtzbach's work on Ma=
ssachusetts=20
silver<br>> <br>> --Plated copies of classic auction sa=
les=20
including Beckwith, James B.<br>> Wilson, Gschwend, Jenks =
and=20
R. Coulton Davis, as well as a previously<br>> unrecorded=
=20
Geoffrey Charlton Adams sale with photographic plates.<br>>=
;=20
<br>> The full catalogue can be downloaded in PDF form fro=
m the=20
Kolbe & Fanning<br>> website at <a title=3D"http://www=
.numislit.com/" href=3D"http://www.numislit.com/" rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank">www.numislit.com</a>. Live internet=20
bidding is available through<br>> <a title=3D"http://the-s=
aleroom.com/" href=3D"http://the-saleroom.com/" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"=
_blank">the-saleroom.com</a>, which also=20
features illustrations of every lot. For full<br>> bidding=
=20
instructions, please see the catalogue.<br>> <br>> Davi=
d=20
Fanning can be reached at df@... or by phone at (614)<br>>=
=20
256-8915.<br>> <br>> ###<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>=
>=20
-- <br>> David F. Fanning<br>> <br>> Kolbe & Fan=
ning=20
Numismatic Booksellers LLC<br>> 141 W. Johnstown Rd.<br>&g=
t;=20
Gahanna, OH 43230<br>> <a rel=3D"nofollow">(614)=20
414-0855</a><br>> Fax <a rel=3D"nofollow">(614)=20
414-0860</a><br>> Cell <a rel=3D"nofollow">(614)=20
256-8915</a><br>> <a title=3D"http://www.numislit.com/" hr=
ef=3D"http://www.numislit.com/" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">www.numi=
slit.com</a><br>><br><br></p></div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(255,255,255)"></div></div></div></div=
></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>David F. Fanning<br><b=
r>Kolbe & Fanning=20
Numismatic Booksellers LLC<br>141 W. Johnstown Rd.<br>Gahanna, =
OH=20
43230<br><a href=3D"tel:%28614%29%20414-0855" target=3D"_blank"=
value=3D"+16144140855">(614) 414-0855</a><br>Fax <a href=3D"tel:%28614%29%=
20414-0860" target=3D"_blank" value=3D"+16144140860">(614) 414-0860</a><br>=
Cell (614)=20
256-8915<br><a title=3D"http://www.numislit.com/" href=3D"http:=
//www.numislit.com/" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">www.numislit.com</a=
><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div></td></tr></tbody></table><p></p>=
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