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Roger,
The labeling of I1696RAM is correct as the attachment description, but =
on the photo itself, you have "1669"
Thanks for posting.
Ray
From: Roger Moore=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 1:31 PM
To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=20
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: DANSKE AMERICANSK
Hi Jeff, Attached in the other side of the insert for my Auctori. I have =
also included two images of coins - one an evasion and one of a cft that ha=
ve a face of George (I know the direction is not right on the evasion but s=
till look at it!!) very similar to the Auctori. I actually find these grou=
pings fascinating. Much less so the HOH Auctori coin with the essentially =
Conn. obverse. Roger
From: Jeff Rock <rosaamltd@gmail.com>
To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=20
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: DANSKE AMERICANSK
=20=20=20=20
The things we call Auctori Plebis "mules" are really evasion coppers -- t=
hough it's a weird little group, with only one reverse actually used with a=
known evasion, all the rest just used with other Auctori Plebis dies. We =
call them mules because that makes them more valuable than calling them eva=
sions -- just like the North Wales pieces. The double star and lettered ed=
ge pieces are definitely rarer, but they are just as definitely evasion cop=
pers -- not American colonials. But no one in their right mind would pay $=
25,000 for an evasion coper, so with just a slight change of nomenclature a=
bout $24,000 of value has been added to them.
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 7:07 AM, Byron <bkw11@psu.edu> wrote:=20
=20=20=20=20=20=20
...I don't know guys, Kirk was a much better engraver than that.
Interestingly the profile of the TVRCVPELLERIVS piece curiously matches=
my own profile from my biker days - I'll have to dig out those photos!<s>
Byron=20
--- In mailto:colonial-coins%40yahoogroups.com, books@... wrote:>> > > =
> Makes perfect sense, Michael. Thank you, Will> > > > Will> > > =C3=82 =
> > > TVRCVPELLERIVS may relate to Turcu Pellerius the title of the command=
er of the mercemaries of the order of St.John of Jerusalem. The initials IK=
are perhaps those of John Kirk.> > > =C3=82 > > > Michael.> > >> > >> > > =
________________________________> > >>=20
> From: "books@..." <books@...>=20
> > > To: mailto:colonial-coins%40yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Sunday, 30=
December 2012, 21:55> > > Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: DANSKE A=
MERICANSK> > >> > > =C3=82 > > >> > > Marc, Sounds like a deal to me!=C3=82=
Glad you found it.>=20
> > Roger, as regards the Auctori Plebis tokens, I just don't know.=C3=
=82 I've always thought that the Auctori Plebis' American connection was s=
omewhat tenuous.=C3=82 Even so, with the "Connecticut" obverse and indepen=
dence and liberty on the reverse, I can see how they might have been made f=
or export to the U.S.=C3=82 - maybe as Breen said, at the request of an Ame=
rican businessman.=C3=82 I also think that the reverse of the "usual varie=
ty" depicts a rather sad or at least contemplative Britannia, taking stock =
of her remaining empire.=C3=82 So, I can see keeping it in the American se=
ries on the absence of evidence for removing it.=C3=82 We know that it was=
around by 1795.=C3=82 If it were issued around 1795, then I think that th=
e legends could conceivably refer to the political debates that going on in=
England and the rest of Europe at that time (RE: Thomas Paine and The Righ=
ts of Man) and not ! necessarily to America.=20
> > > Also,=C3=82 I kind of doubt that the Hispanola and uniface AP are=
just other varieties of the=C3=82 "usual" Conder token motif.=C3=82 I ten=
d to think that they are counterfeits of it, or evasions made by another ha=
nd - which would suggest that all were floating around England.=C3=82 I've=
bid (unsuccessfully) on=C3=82 a few=C3=82 of the "others" over the years a=
nd it seems as if they are almost always posted by British sellers, who oft=
en don't point out the connection to the "American" Auctori Plebis tokens.=
=C3=82 Again, the bottom line is that I'm not sure.> > > Another piece tha=
t I find rather interesting is the evasion with TVRCVPELLERIVS / HISPANIOLA=
IK. The IK initials seem somewhat analagous to IC, not to mention the Hisp=
aniola (Haiti) similarity.=C3=82 Perhaps a Kempson?> > > Anyway, good ques=
tion, worthy of research.> > > Thanks,> > > Will> > >>=20
> >> Will,I have a piece very similar to yours tha! t in in my SDBox. I=
t is weird because I just got back from Branson and was cleaning my car out=
, when I stumbled onto the ebay receipt for the coin, way down under the se=
ats.I came in and checked my emails and there was Bryon's message which sta=
rted this thread.I paid 99 bucks for mine which is probably too high, but i=
t was a BIN and I wanted it.I'll post a pix next time I get tot the bank.As=
far as which coins should be considered American, I'm not sure. Bob Vlack =
in his book included Cayenne 2 sous pieces only because they were struck ov=
er the old Sous Marques of 24 deniers.However, why would they not be consid=
ered colonial being struck by the French for their colony in Guiana in the =
1780 time frame. I'm pretty sure some of the people from South America,as w=
ell as Central America, for that matter,consider themselves Americans.I'll =
bet a lot of these still circulated in Canada and Nova Scotia.=C3=83=E2=80=
=9A=C3=82 Something> > > I > need to read up on.Marc > > --- On Sun, 12/30/=
12, books@... <books@...> wrote: > >> > From: books@... <books@...> > Subje=
ct: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: DANSKE AMERICANSK > To: mailto:colonial-=
coins%40yahoogroups.com > Date: Sunday, December 30, 2012, 11:34 AM > > > >=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > =C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82 > > > > > > > > > > I agr=
ee that more deference should be given to certain foreign coins that circul=
ated here extensively.=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82 I'm not sure I want them eleva=
ted to full "American" status, but there needs to be some popular recogniti=
on of their respective roles. Maybe Leo=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82 should be a co=
nsultant to Red Book. :)IMHO, the DWI issues should be regarded as American=
=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82 Have thought so for years. Their circumstances are an=
alagous to Northwest tokens, Texas jolas, French colonial pieces and others=
,=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82 (attached a pic pic of a 24 skilings counterfeit in=
copper, unsilvered.)I'm on the fence about hogge> > > money.=C3=83=E2=80=
=9A=C3=82 To my knowledge, none have been found on American soil and the f=
ormal connection with the Virginia Company had been dissolved by the time t=
hey were minted.=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82 In that sense, they are very little d=
ifferent from the later Bermuda, Bahamas and Barbadoes issues. However, som=
e of the key players from Somer's mission, including S! trachey, were impor=
tant in Vir! > ginia.=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82 I think it likely that some of t=
he coins ended up here. But, is all that enough to regard them as the first=
"American" coins?=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82 Maybe. Maybe not..Will=C3=83=E2=80=
=9A=C3=82 =C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82 =C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82 =C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82=
> Hi Ray,I agree with you 100%. The triangular trade, ie, timber and horse=
s for molasses,rum,and slaves was the backbone of the colonial economy and =
the Dutch, French, and other coins should probably be considered colonial. =
Ditto-the Lion dollar.One needs to be careful of calling the Dutch "sailing=
ship" coins counterfeit, for near the end of their run they were pretty wr=
etched.While th!=20
> e may look like imitations,>=20
> > they were, in fact, official coinage.Marc > >> > >> > >> --- On Thu=
, 12/27/12, Ray Williams <njraywms@...> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > From: Ray W=
illiams <njraywms@...> > >> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: DANSKE =
AMERICANSK > >> To: mailto:colonial-coins%40yahoogroups.com > >> Date: Thur=
sday, December 27, 2012, 3:07 PM > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > =
>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> =C3=83=C6=92=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=
=A1=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>=
> >> > >> > >> Hi All, > >> =C3=83=C6=92=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=A1=C3=83=E2=80=
=9A=C3=82 =C3=83=C6=92=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=A1=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82 =C3=83=C6=
=92=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=A1=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82 =C3=83=C6=92=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=
=C5=A1=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82 This coin has intrigued me > >> ever since Syd'=
s well-researched article.=C3=83=C6=92=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=A1=C3=83=E2=80=9A=
=C3=82 How much more "American" can you > >> get for the time period than =
to have America in the legend!!!=C3=83=C6=92=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=A1=C3=83=E2=
=80=9A=C3=82 The Danish > >> West Indes were (are) part of America - just =
not British America.=C3=83=C6=92=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=A1=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82 =
The > >> other two European coins struck with a direct American reference =
in the legend > >> that I can think of are t!> he Rosa Americana> > > coina=
ge=C3=83=C6=92=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=A1=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82 and the Virginia >=
>> Halfpence.=C3=83=C6=92=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=A1=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82 Someo=
ne please correct me if I'm forgetting something.=C3=83=C6=92=C3=A2=E2=82=
=AC=C5=A1=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82 > >> > >> =C3=83=C6=92=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=A1=
=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82 =C3=83=C6=92=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=A1=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=
=82 =C3=83=C6=92=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=A1=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82 =C3=83=C6=92=C3=
=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=A1=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82 I have a 12 Skilling > >> contempor=
ary forgery (brass I assume) and I am keeping an eye open for a 24 > >> Ski=
lling example.=C3=83=C6=92=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=A1=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82 I fee=
l somewhat strongly that if the Red Book includes > >> the Bermuda Hogge Mo=
ney, then the Danish West Indes coins should be there > >> too.=C3=83=C6=92=
=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=A1=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82 While I'm talking Red Book, if =
there's an 8R coin pictured on page > >> 11, I really feel that a Lion Doll=
ar should be pictured there too.=C3=83=C6=92=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=A1=C3=83=E2=
=80=9A=C3=82 The > >> Lion Dollar was important enough in our early Americ=
an economy where it was both > >> counterfeited in the colonies and used as=
a denomination on!> some of our early > >> paper money.=C3=83=C6=92=C3=A2=
=E2=82=AC=C5=A1=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82 Ok...=C3=83=C6=92=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=
=A1=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82 off my soap box.=C3=83=C6=92=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=A1=
=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82 > >> Enjoying the posts > >> Ray > >> Phil, > >> =C3=
=83=C6=92=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=A1=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82 =C3=83=C6=92=C3=A2=E2=
=82=AC=C5=A1=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82 =C3=83=C6=92=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=A1=C3=83=
=E2=80=9A=C3=82 =C3=83=C6=92=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=A1=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82 Is t=
here a projected > >> publication> > > date yet? > >> Ray > >> > >> > >> > =
>> > >> > >> > From: PLMossman@... > >> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 2=
:44 PM > >> To: mailto:colonial-coins%40yahoogroups.com > >> > >> Subject: =
Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: DANSKE > >> AMERICANSK > >> > >> > >> =C3=83=
=C6=92=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=A1=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82 > >> =C3=83=C6=92=C3=A2=
=E2=82=AC=C5=A1=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82 > >> In a message dated 12/27/2012 2:=
21:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, rosaamltd@... writes: > >> We > >> defini=
tely want pictures of all of the above!!!! > >> > >> You'll have to wait un=
til my book comes out! > >> Phil > >> > >> =C3=83=C6=92=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=
=A1=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>=
> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Roger,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> <FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>The labeling of I1=
696RAM is=20
correct as the attachment description, but on the photo itself, you have=20
"1669"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks for posting.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Ray</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3D"mailto:rogermoore435@yahoo.com
CTRL + Click to follow link"=20
href=3D"mailto:rogermoore435@yahoo.com">Roger Moore</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 01, 2013 1:31 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dcolonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=20
href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogroups..=
com</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: DANSKE=20
AMERICANSK</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">Hi Jeff, Attac=
hed in=20
the other side of the insert for my Auctori. I have also included two=
=20
images of coins - one an evasion and one of a cft that have a face of Georg=
e (I=20
know the direction is not right on the evasion but still look at it!!) very=
=20
similar to the Auctori. I actually find these groupings fascinating.&=
nbsp;=20
Much less so the HOH Auctori <VAR id=3Dyui-ie-cursor></VAR>coin with the=20
essentially Conn. obverse. Roger<BR style=3D"RIGHT: auto"=
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style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Jeff Rock=20
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<DIV>The things we call Auctori Plebis "mules" are really evasion coppers=
--=20
though it's a weird little group, with only one reverse actually used wit=
h a=20
known evasion, all the rest just used with other Auctori Plebis dies.&nbs=
p; We=20
call them mules because that makes them more valuable than calling them=20
evasions -- just like the North Wales pieces. The double star and=20
lettered edge pieces are definitely rarer, but they are just as definitel=
y=20
evasion coppers -- not American colonials. But no one in their righ=
t=20
mind would pay $25,000 for an evasion coper, so with just a slight change=
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nomenclature about $24,000 of value has been added to them.<BR><BR>
<DIV class=3Dyiv17859317gmail_quote>On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 7:07 AM, Byro=
n <SPAN=20
dir=3Dltr><<A href=3D"mailto:bkw11@psu.edu" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_b=
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<DIV>
<DIV>...I don't know guys, Kirk was a much better engraver than=20
that.<BR><BR>Interestingly the profile of the TVRCVPELLERIVS piece curi=
ously=20
matches my own profile from my biker days - I'll have to dig out those=
=20
photos!<s><BR><BR>Byron=20
<DIV class=3Dyiv17859317im><WBR><WBR>--- In <A=20
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ymailto=3D"mailto:colonial-coins%40yahoogroups.com">mailto:colonial-coi=
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books@... wrote:<WBR>><WBR>> <WBR>> <WBR>> <WBR>> Makes=
=20
perfect sense, Michael. Thank you, Will<WBR>> <WBR>>=
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<WBR>> > Will<WBR>> <WBR>> > =C3=82 <WBR>>=
<WBR>>=20
> TVRCVPELLERIVS may relate to Turcu Pellerius the title of the comm=
ander=20
of the mercemaries of the order of St.John of Jerusalem. The initials I=
K are=20
perhaps those of John Kirk.<WBR>> <WBR>> > =C3=82 <WBR>&g=
t;=20
<WBR>> > Michael.<WBR>> <WBR>> ><WBR>> <WBR>>=20
><WBR>> <WBR>> > ________________________________<WBR>>=
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<WBR>> ><WBR>> <WBR></DIV>> From: "books@..." <books@...=
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<DIV class=3Dyiv17859317im><WBR>> <WBR>> > To: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins%40yahoogroups.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=
=3D_blank=20
ymailto=3D"mailto:colonial-coins%40yahoogroups.com">mailto:colonial-coi=
ns%40yahoogroups.com</A><WBR>>=20
<WBR>> > Sent: Sunday, 30 December 2012, 21:55<WBR>> <WBR>>=
>=20
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: DANSKE AMERICANSK<WBR>> <WBR=
>>=20
><WBR>> <WBR>> > =C3=82 <WBR>> <WBR>> ><WBR>&=
gt;=20
<WBR>> > Marc, Sounds like a deal to me!=C3=82 Glad you fou=
nd=20
it.<WBR>> <WBR></DIV>> > Roger, as regards the Auctori Plebis=
=20
tokens, I just don't know.=C3=82 I've always thought that the Auc=
tori=20
Plebis' American connection was somewhat tenuous.=C3=82 Even so, =
with the=20
"Connecticut" obverse and independence and liberty on the reverse, I ca=
n see=20
how they might have been made for export to the U.S.=C3=82 - maybe=
as Breen=20
said, at the request of an American businessman.=C3=82 I also thi=
nk that=20
the reverse of the "usual variety" depicts a rather sad or at least=20
contemplative Britannia, taking stock of her remaining empire.=C3=82&nb=
sp; So, I=20
can see keeping it in the American series on the absence of evidence fo=
r=20
removing it.=C3=82 We know that it was around by 1795.=C3=82 =
; If it were=20
issued around 1795, then I think that the legends could conceivably ref=
er to=20
the political debates that going on in England and the rest of Europe a=
t=20
that time (RE: Thomas Paine and The Rights of Man) and not ! necessaril=
y to=20
America.=20
<DIV class=3Dyiv17859317im><WBR>> <WBR>> > Also,=C3=82 I =
kind of=20
doubt that the Hispanola and uniface AP are just other varieties of=20
the=C3=82 "usual" Conder token motif.=C3=82 I tend to think =
that they are=20
counterfeits of it, or evasions made by another hand - which would sugg=
est=20
that all were floating around England.=C3=82 I've bid (unsuccessf=
ully)=20
on=C3=82 a few=C3=82 of the "others" over the years and it se=
ems as if they=20
are almost always posted by British sellers, who often don't point out =
the=20
connection to the "American" Auctori Plebis tokens.=C3=82 Again, =
the bottom=20
line is that I'm not sure.<WBR>> <WBR>> > Another piece that I=
find=20
rather interesting is the evasion with TVRCVPELLERIVS / HISPANIOLA IK. =
The=20
IK initials seem somewhat analagous to IC, not to mention the Hispaniol=
a=20
(Haiti) similarity.=C3=82 Perhaps a Kempson?<WBR>> <WBR>> &=
gt;=20
Anyway, good question, worthy of research.<WBR>> <WBR>> >=20
Thanks,<WBR>> <WBR>> > Will<WBR>> <WBR>> ><WBR>>=20
<WBR></DIV>> >> Will,I have a piece very similar to yours tha!=
t in=20
in my SDBox. It is weird because I just got back from Branson and was=20
cleaning my car out, when I stumbled onto the ebay receipt for the coin=
, way=20
down under the seats.I came in and checked my emails and there was Bryo=
n's=20
message which started this thread.I paid 99 bucks for mine which is pro=
bably=20
too high, but it was a BIN and I wanted it.I'll post a pix next time I =
get=20
tot the bank.As far as which coins should be considered American, I'm n=
ot=20
sure. Bob Vlack in his book included Cayenne 2 sous pieces only because=
they=20
were struck over the old Sous Marques of 24 deniers.However, why would =
they=20
not be considered colonial being struck by the French for their colony =
in=20
Guiana in the 1780 time frame. I'm pretty sure some of the people from =
South=20
America,as well as Central America, for that matter,consider themselves=
=20
Americans.I'll bet a lot of these still circulated in Canada and Nova=20
Scotia.=C3=83=E2=80=9A=C3=82 Something<WBR>> <WBR>> > I &=
gt; need to read up=20
on.Marc > > --- On Sun, 12/30/12, books@... <books@...> wro=
te:=20
> ><WBR>> <WBR>> From: books@... <books@...> > Sub=
ject:=20
Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: DANSKE AMERICANSK > To: <A=20
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