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From: Roger Moore <rogermoore435@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Fwd: [nonregalresearch] NUPES, Part II
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Hi Rickie,=C2=A0 Thanks for comments.=C2=A0 I will post some work next week=
on some of the work I have done on the Woods 42.=C2=A0 I am wondering whet=
her the Family should just be called the Woods Type so the two letter conve=
ntion - WT - could be used.=C2=A0 However, this sort of overlaps with the W=
edge Top 7s so it could be call the Woods Variety - WV?=C2=A0=C2=A0 I am le=
aning toward the latter.=C2=A0=C2=A0
=C2=A0As far as 73286RAM, I have other ideas related to the OL Family but I=
am not sure.=C2=A0 I got my two medical chapters done so I should have a l=
ittle extra time to play with coins.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Hope all is well.=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 Roger
>________________________________
> From: Rickie Rose <sjkrose@yahoo.com>
>To: "colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>; "no=
nregalresearch@yahoogroups.com" <nonregalresearch@yahoogroups.com>=20
>Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 4:54 PM
>Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Fwd: [nonregalresearch] NUPES, Par=
t II
>=20=20
>=20
>=C2=A0=20=20
>=20
>Roger,=20
>Congrats on the FS and Woods 42 pieces=E2=80=A6 Really cool! I=E2=80=99ll =
have to check the variety, but Jeff or David will know for sure. As I said =
before, I think the legends on=C2=A072077JRR & 7208RAM look more like the "=
GEORIVS" & "GEROGIVS" error varieties. I=E2=80=99ll try to post a study pla=
te later.=20
>=C2=A0
>Also, thanks for sharing your 7249RAM; it seems that FG got around. I=E2=
=80=99m not sure what to think of 73286RAM yet=E2=80=A6 (Large Legend Famil=
y) I do have one but it=E2=80=99s in slightly lower grade and I can=E2=80=
=99t seem to find anything similar. Maybe just an orphan!=20
>=C2=A0
>Rickie=20
>
>=20
>
>________________________________
> From: Roger Moore <rogermoore435@yahoo.com>
>To: "nonregalresearch@yahoogroups.com" <nonregalresearch@yahoogroups.com>;=
Colonial coins <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>=20
>Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 11:31 AM
>Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Fwd: [nonregalresearch] NUPES, Part II
>=20=20
>
>
>Hi Rickie, Jeff and Kayla,=C2=A0 I have the same variety in a slightly lat=
er die sate as shown in 7208RAM.=C2=A0 I agree it is not an AG but it is al=
so not Regal.=C2=A0 I am not sure where to put it.=C2=A0 In addition for Ri=
ckie I have attached 7249RAM which is a dynamite mule having the Simian rev=
erse that you requested I send you.=C2=A0 There are a number of coins inclu=
ding the FGs that share this obverse.=C2=A0 My real prize however is 33017R=
AM which is a NEW die combo for Woods 42 - at least as far as I know.=C2=A0=
I am sure someone out there has another but it is the first time I have se=
en this with a readable=C2=A01733 reverse date.=C2=A0 This reverse is the s=
ame as coin with the the evasion type head left George III=C2=A0which I bel=
ieve Ringo initially labeled as a 1777, since he was not able to see the fu=
ll date.=C2=A0 In any case much more on this key coin later.=C2=A0 The 7328=
6RAM is also from a group that I will be discussing later though I would li=
ke to hear Rickie's and John Ls' ideas
about it.=C2=A0 Finally 73287 is a Flaming Sprig variety that I do not own=
and of which I think only three examples are known.=C2=A0 It was in a grou=
p lot that I got for a song.=C2=A0 Though not the finest, it is a very dece=
nt example.=C2=A0 Enjoy.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Roger
>
>
>
>>________________________________
>> From: Rickie Rose <sjkrose@yahoo.com>
>>To: "nonregalresearch@yahoogroups.com" <nonregalresearch@yahoogroups.com>=
=20
>>Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 9:38 AM
>>Subject: Re: Fwd: [nonregalresearch] NUPES, Part II
>>=20=20
>>
>>
>>Jeff,
>>Definitely not AG... the obverse bust looks almost Regal, and the legend =
look Coin-Z'ish.=20
>>=C2=A0
>>Try looking at some of the "GEORIVS" & "GEROGIVS" error varieties...=20
>>=C2=A0
>>Rickie=20
>>=C2=A0
>>
>>=20
>>
>>________________________________
>> From: Kayla Schlemmer <kschlemm@comcast.net>
>>To: nonregalresearch@yahoogroups.com=20
>>Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 3:15 AM
>>Subject: Fwd: [nonregalresearch] NUPES, Part II
>>=20=20
>>
>>
>>The non AG - AG
>>Sent from my iPhone
>>Begin forwarded message:
>>From: Jeff Rock <rosaamltd@gmail.com>Date: August 23, 2013, 2:22:55 PM ED=
TTo: nonregalresearch@yahoogroups.comSubject: [nonregalresearch] NUPES, Par=
t IIReply-To: nonregalresearch@yahoogroups.com
>>Because of the larger photo sizes I'm going to split these into a few ema=
ils.
>>>
>>>Here is a 1771 that I think ties in to the Mousy Face family -- and thou=
ghts?
>>>
>>>The 1772 is an AG piece, but a nice late die state=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=20
>>>=20=20=20=20=20=20
>=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ar=
ial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14pt"><div><span>Hi Rickie, Than=
ks for comments. I will post some work next week on some of the work =
I have done on the Woods 42. I am wondering whether the Family should=
just be called the Woods Type so the two letter convention - WT - could be=
used. However, this sort of overlaps with the Wedge Top 7s so it cou=
ld be call the Woods Variety - WV? I am leaning toward the latt=
er. </span></div><div><span> As </span>far as 73286RAM, I h=
ave other ideas related to the OL Family but I am not sure. I got my =
two medical chapters done so I should have a little extra time to play with=
coins. Hope all is well. Roger<br></div><div=
><blockquote style=3D"padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; margin-left: 5px;=
border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); border-left-width: 2px;
border-left-style: solid;"> <div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;"> <div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, =
new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <div class=3D"=
hr" style=3D"margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204,=
204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" contenteditable=3D"fal=
se" readonly=3D"true"></div> <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> <b><span sty=
le=3D"font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Rickie Rose <sjkrose@yahoo.co=
m><br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> "colonial-co=
ins@yahoogroups.com" <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>; "nonregalresea=
rch@yahoogroups.com" <nonregalresearch@yahoogroups.com> <br> <b><span=
style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, August 25, 2013 4:54=
PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Colo=
nial Numismatics] Re: Fwd: [nonregalresearch] NUPES, Part II<br> </font> </=
div> <div
class=3D"y_msg_container"><wbr>
<div id=3D"yiv857206701">
<div>
<span style=3D"display: none;"> </span>
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=20=20=20=20=20=20
=20=20=20=20=20=20
<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: verdana, helvetica, s=
ans-serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div><sp=
an>Roger, </span></div><div><span>Congrats on the FS and Woods 42 pieces=E2=
=80=A6 Really cool! I=E2=80=99ll have to check the variety, but Jeff or Dav=
id will know for sure. As I said before, I think the legends on 72077J=
RR & 7208RAM look more like the "GEORIVS" & "GEROGIVS" error variet=
ies. I=E2=80=99ll try to post a study plate later. </span></div><div><span>=
</span> </div><div><span>Also, thanks for sharing your 7249RAM; it see=
ms that FG got around. I=E2=80=99m not sure what to think of 73286RAM yet=
=E2=80=A6 (Large Legend Family) I do have one but it=E2=80=99s in slightly =
lower grade and I can=E2=80=99t seem to find anything similar. Maybe just a=
n orphan! </span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>Rickie </sp=
an></div><div><br></div> <div style=3D"font-family: verdana, helvetica, sa=
ns-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div
style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: =
12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <div class=3D"yiv857206701hr" style=3D"height: 0p=
x; font-size: 0px;"></div> <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> <b><span style=
=3D"font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Roger Moore <rogermoore435@yaho=
o.com><br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> "nonrega=
lresearch@yahoogroups.com" <nonregalresearch@yahoogroups.com>; Coloni=
al coins <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com> <br> <b><span style=3D"font=
-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, August 25, 2013 11:31 AM<br> <b><s=
pan style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Colonial Numismatics]=
Re: Fwd: [nonregalresearch] NUPES, Part II<br> </font> </div> <div class=
=3D"yiv857206701y_msg_container"><br><div id=3D"yiv857206701"><div><div sty=
le=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-=
size: 14pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div><span>Hi Rickie, Je=
ff and Kayla, I
have the same variety in a slightly later die sate as shown in 7208RAM.&nb=
sp; I agree it is not an AG but it is also not Regal. I am not sure w=
here to put it. In addition for Rickie I have attached 7249RAM which =
is a dynamite mule having the Simian reverse that you requested I send you.=
There are a number of coins including the FGs that share this obvers=
e. My real prize however is 33017RAM which is a NEW die combo for Woo=
ds 42 - at least as far as I know. I am sure someone out there has an=
other but it is the first time I have seen this with a readable 1733 r=
everse date. This reverse is the same as coin with the the evasion ty=
pe head left George III which I believe Ringo initially labeled as a 1=
777, since he was not able to see the full date. In
any case much more on this key coin later. The 73286RAM is also from=
a group that I will be discussing later though I would like to hear Rickie=
's and John Ls' ideas about it. Finally 73287 is a Flaming Sprig vari=
ety that I do not own and of which I think only three examples are known.&n=
bsp; It was in a group lot that I got for a song. Though not the fine=
st, it is a very decent example. Enjoy. Roger</span></div=
><div><br><blockquote style=3D"border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); border-=
left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid;"> <div style=3D"font-family: ar=
ial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;"> <div style=3D"font-family: t=
imes new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"=
> <div class=3D"yiv857206701hr" style=3D"height: 0px; font-size: 0px;"></di=
v> <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">=
From:</span></b> Rickie Rose <sjkrose@yahoo.com><br> <b><span
style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> "nonregalresearch@yahoogroups.=
com" <nonregalresearch@yahoogroups.com> <br> <b><span style=3D"font-w=
eight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, August 25, 2013 9:38 AM<br> <b><span=
style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Fwd: [nonregalresearc=
h] NUPES, Part II<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"yiv857206701y_msg_contai=
ner"><br><div id=3D"yiv857206701"><div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); f=
ont-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; background-col=
or: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div><span>Jeff,</span></div><div><span>Definitely=
not AG... the obverse bust looks almost Regal, and the legend look Coin-Z'=
ish. </span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>Try looking at s=
ome of the "GEORIVS" & "GEROGIVS" error varieties...
</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>Rickie </span></div>=
<div><span></span> </div><div><br></div> <div style=3D"font-family: v=
erdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style=3D"font-family=
: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir=3D"l=
tr"> <div class=3D"yiv857206701hr" style=3D"height: 0px; font-size: 0px;"><=
/div> <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold=
;">From:</span></b> Kayla Schlemmer
<kschlemm@comcast.net><br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:=
</span></b> nonregalresearch@yahoogroups.com <br> <b><span style=3D"font-we=
ight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, August 25, 2013 3:15 AM<br> <b><span =
style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Fwd: [nonregalresearch] NU=
PES, Part II<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"yiv857206701y_msg_container">=
<br><div id=3D"yiv857206701"><div><div>The non AG - AG<wbr><br>Sent from my=
iPhone</div><div><wbr>Begin forwarded message:<wbr><wbr></div><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div><b>From:</b> Jeff Rock <<a href=3D"mailto:rosaamltd@g=
mail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:rosaamltd@gm=
ail.com">rosaamltd@gmail.com</a>><wbr><b>Date:</b> August 23, 2013, 2:22=
:55 PM EDT<wbr><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:nonregalresearch@yahoogroups.co=
m" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:nonregalresearch@ya=
hoogroups.com">nonregalresearch@yahoogroups.com</a><wbr><b>Subject:</b> <b>=
[nonregalresearch]
NUPES,
Part
II</b><wbr><b>Reply-To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:nonregalresearch@yahoogroups=
.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:nonregalresearch=
@yahoogroups.com">nonregalresearch@yahoogroups.com</a><wbr><wbr></div></blo=
ckquote><div><span></span></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Because of the larger photo sizes I'm going to split =
these into a few emails.</div><div> </div><div>Here is a 1771 that I t=
hink ties in to the Mousy Face family -- and thoughts?</div><div> </di=
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