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Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Picture of Henry Clay Miller
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Dan
Great detective work!
John
=A0
Prof. Giovanni "John" N. Lupia III
Parenti, Italia, New Jersey, USA; Beirut, Lebanon=A0
(twitter account) @JohnNLupia
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Roman-Catholic-News/
http://www.reginacaelipress.com/
https://sites.google.com/site/numismaticmallcom/
God Bless Everyone
________________________________
From: Dan Burleson <dburleson@charter.net>
To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Picture of Henry Clay Miller
=20
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Here's some passport information from 1889, 1900 & 1910
Dan
On 8/27/2013 4:25 PM, John Lupia wrote:
=A0=20
>Effie died in November 1880.
>
>
>https://sites.google.com/site/numismaticmallcom/encyclopedic-dictionary-of=
-numismatic-biographies/miller-henry-clay
>=A0
>Prof. Giovanni "John" N. Lupia III
>Parenti, Italia, New Jersey, USA; Beirut, Lebanon=A0
>(twitter account) @JohnNLupia
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Roman-Catholic-News/
>http://www.reginacaelipress.com/
>https://sites.google.com/site/numismaticmallcom/
>God Bless Everyone
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: dan freidus <danf1739@gmail.com>
>To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=20
>Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 2:55 PM
>Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Picture of Henry Clay Miller
>=20
>
>
>
>
>
>Randy,
>They could both be correct. The frat book
entry from 1880 says he married at the end
of 1878. The obituary says he was unmarried
at the time of his death and left no
survivors other than his sister. He may have
gotten divorced between 1880 and 1920.
>
>
Dan F.
>
>
>
>
>On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Randy Clark <centsitive@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>=A0=20
>>Interesting that Elder said Miller was unmarried but his bio
>>in the Kappa Alpha book
said he married Effie
Wilkes in
>>
1878. Wonder which is correct.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:14 AM, dan freidus <danf1739@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Randy,
>>>Williams College
published an obit
in spring 1920 but
I don't know if it
had a photo.
You've clearly
seen the text
reprinted in the
Numismatist in May
1920 but it might
be worth
contacting the
college (alumni
office or library)
to see if someone
would look at the
spring 1920 alumni
magazine to see if
it had a photo.=20
>>>
>>>http://alumni.williams.edu/ or http://archives.williams.edu/williamshist=
ory/williamshistory.php
>>>
>>>
>>>http://books.google.com/books?id=3DDzlOAAAAYAAJ&lpg=3DPA215&ots=3DeD1mIB=
ORTB&dq=3Dhenry%20c.%20miller%201844%201920%20obituary%20philadelphia&pg=3D=
PA215#v=3Donepage&q=3Dhenry%20c.%20miller%201844%201920%20obituary%20philad=
elphia&f=3Dfalse
>>>
>>>http://books.google.com/books?id=3DBMVBAAAAIAAJ&pg=3DPA245&lpg=3DPA245&d=
q=3Dwilliams+college+%22henry+c.+miller%22&source=3Dbl&ots=3DZ79H8Blmof&sig=
=3DR8L2mqeefcjIOifHi41UMSWMCaw&hl=3Den&sa=3DX&ei=3DQ9scUpDsGcbQ2wXt-oEY&ved=
=3D0CFsQ6AEwCA#v=3Donepage&q=3D%22henry%20clay%20miller%22&f=3Dfalse
>>>
>>>
>>>Good luck,
>>>
Dan F.=20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Jeff Rock <rosaamltd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>=A0=20
>>>>Randy, if any institution has a photo it would be the ANS -- given that=
the president of that club has a certain affection for the CT copper serie=
s, perhaps he can ask the library staff to see if anything exists?=A0 There=
might be group photos in which he was present, or even some photo that som=
ehow made it into the library by donation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Randy Clark <centsitive@gmail.com> wro=
te:
>>>>
>>>>=A0=20
>>>>>Per his obit in May 1920 The Numismatist, he was born in=20
>>>>>
Philadelphia and went to Williams College, class of 1867/1868,
>>>>>
a member of Kappa Alpha Fraternity (a scene from "Animal
>>>>>House" comes
to mind about
now). Williams
College is in=20
>>>>>Williamstown,
Massachusetts.
Both he and
his sister
>>>>>were
unmarried, so
it kind of
makes sense he
ended up=20
>>>>>back in
hishome town
of
Philadelphia.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Ray Williams <njraywms@optonline.net>=
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Nice Dan,
>>>>>>=A0=A0=A0 For some
reason I
didn't picture
Miller as
being in
Philadelphia...=
=A0
but I know
absolutely
nothing about
his residence.
>>>>>>Ray=20
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On 8/27/2013 12:13 PM, dan freidus wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Randy,
>>>>>>>I don't have a
picture of his
face but this
may be his
gravestone:=20
>>>>>>>http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=3Dgr&GSln=3DMILL&GSfn=
=3DH&GSpartial=3D1&GSbyrel=3Dall&GSst=3D40&GScntry=3D4&GSsr=3D2321&GRid=3D9=
2868022#.UhzP9f-L1fM.gmail
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
Dan F.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Randy Clark <centsitive@gmail.com>=
wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>=A0=20
>>>>>>>>I think the Henry Miller of Connecticut coppers=20
>>>>>>>>fame was a bit heavier than your latter date "author".
>>>>>>>>In the Jan/Feb 1935 issues of Hobbies Magazine
>>>>>>>>Thomas Elder described our Mr. Miller as:=20
>>>>>>>>=A0
>>>>>>>>"His fat and rotund figure suggested an amicable judge,
>>>>>>>>=A0rather than the coin collector as usually pictured."
>>>>>>>>=A0
>>>>>>>>-and-
>>>>>>>>=A0
>>>>>>>>"Just prior to his death in 1920, he told his sister,=20
>>>>>>>>Miss Emma Miller, to take his collection to me in=20
>>>>>>>>case anything befell him. Miss Miller informed me=20
>>>>>>>>that he had a predilection for candy, which contributed=20
>>>>>>>>to his end."
>>>>>>>>=A0
>>>>>>>>One now wonders what=A0Edler's "usually pictured" coin
>>>>>>>>collector actually looks like=A0 ....=A0 Walter Breen ?
>>>>>>>>-rc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Randy Clark <centsitive@gmail.com=
> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Does anyone have a picture of Henry C. Miller of=20
>>>>>>>>>Connecticut
coppers fame ?
I can find
bios of
>>>>>>>>>
his background, but no image.=20
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>Randy C.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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work!</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16.3636360=
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hn"
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>(twitter account) @JohnNLupia<br>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Roman-Catho=
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1910<br>
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Dan<br>
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III<br>
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(twitter account) @JohnNLupia<br>
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<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b>
Tuesday, August 27, 2013 2:55 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span><=
/b>
Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Picture of Henry
Clay Miller<br>
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<div>Randy,<br>
They could both be correct. The frat book
entry from 1880 says he married at the end
of 1878. The obituary says he was unmarried
at the time of his death and left no
survivors other than his sister. He may have
gotten divorced between 1880 and 1920.<br>
<br>
</div>
Dan F.<br>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0833035119gmail_extra"><br>
<br>
<div class=3D"yiv0833035119gmail_quote">On
Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Randy
Clark <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a rel=3D"nofol=
low" ymailto=3D"mailto:centsitive@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mail=
to:centsitive@gmail.com">centsitive@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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te" style=3D"border-left:1px #ccc solid;">
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<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div>Interesting that Elder
said Miller was unmarried
but his bio<br>
in the Kappa Alpha book
said he married Effie
Wilkes in<br>
</div>
1878. Wonder which is
correct.<br>
</div>
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extra">
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l_quote">On
Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:14
AM, dan freidus <span dir=3D"=
ltr"><<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:danf1739@gmail.com" target=
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<br>
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<div>Randy,<br>
Williams College
published an obit
in spring 1920 but
I don't know if it
had a photo.
You've clearly
seen the text
reprinted in the
Numismatist in May
1920 but it might
be worth
contacting the
college (alumni
office or library)
to see if someone
would l
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