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    Ray, I would have to reread some of the info, but he was one of weal th and=
    standing in Philadelphia at the time, a financial contributor to the Rev W=
    ar effort, so not knowing the particulars, it seems that those facts are pa=
    rt of the reason, will look later today.=C2=A0=20

    Don=20



    ----- Original Message -----


    From: "Ray Williams" <njraywms@optonline.net>=20
    To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=20
    Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 9:16:10 AM=20
    Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Continental Notes =C2=A0 Atttn: Ray Wil=
    liams=20

    =C2=A0=20




    Hi Don,=20
    =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 It's cool having someone of that importance in your fami=
    ly tree.=C2=A0 With the "prejudice" you imply, I wonder how Hillegas ever g=
    ot appointed treasurer?=C2=A0 Do you know?=20
    Ray=20



    On 10/25/2013 8:59 AM, DonH wrote:=20





    Ray, I found a Bio on him that stated "Michael Hillegas never signed any of=
    the currency, unlike those who held the position later on. The only Hilleg=
    as signature appears to be that of his son Samuel Hillegas.=20

    Here are some of the notes that are listed in the Mass Historical Society w=
    ebsite http://www.masshist.org/findingaids/doc.cfm?fa=3Dfao0005 =C2=A0=20

    =C2=A0=20

    Continental currency, serial no. 583636 series C, issued by Congress on 17 =
    February 1776 for two thirds of a dollar. Signed by S. Hillegas.=20

    Continental currency, serial no. 37826, issued by Congress on 17 February 1=
    776 for four dollars. Signed by S. Hillegas and S.C. Morris.=20

    Continental currency, serial no. [82264], issued by Congress on 9 May 1776 =
    for five dollars. Signed by S.C. Morris and S. Hillegas=20

    Continental currency, serial no. 78434, issued by Congress on 9 May 1776 fo=
    r six dollars. Signed by S. Hillegas and S.C. Morris.=20

    Continental currency, serial no. 78434, issued by Congress on 9 May 1776 fo=
    r six dollars. Signed by S. Hillegas and S.C. Morris.=20

    Continental currency, serial no. illegible, issued by Congress on 2 Novembe=
    r 1776 for three dollars. Signed by S. Hillegas.=20

    Continental currency, serial no. 5840, issued by Congress on 2 November 177=
    6 for four dollars. Signed by S. Hillegas and B. Brannan.=20

    =C2=A0=20

    One thing to note about Michael Hillegas, it appears his name was never giv=
    en the notoriety that you would have expected for being the first solo Trea=
    surer of the United States, it seems that since he was basically of German =
    heritage and not British that his importance in history at that time was do=
    wnplayed because of=C2=A0his nationality. =C2=A0I read quite a few articles=
    on that subject, which I have saved somewhere but the crash of my desktop =
    earlier this month has me at a point where data like that is not immediatel=
    y on hand for me to show.=20

    =C2=A0=20

    Don=20


    =C2=A0=20

    ----- Original Message -----


    From: "Ray Williams" <njraywms@optonline.net>=20
    To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=20
    Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 10:39:43 PM=20
    Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Continental Notes =C2=A0 Atttn: Ray Wil=
    liams=20

    =C2=A0=20




    Who was the Hillegas that signed the 1776 fractional Continental Currency?=
    =C2=A0 I had fun talking to the club - it was a long drive home afterwards.=
    ..=20
    Ray=20



    On 10/24/2013 6:53 PM, DonH wrote:=20

    <blockquote>


    Ray, after your talk on Continental currency at the ACNS meeting on Monday=
    =C2=A0 I got reinterested in researching to see if my=C2=A01st cousin 5 tim=
    es removed, Michael Hillegas, 1st Treasurer of the United States/Continenta=
    l Congress did in fact sign or not sign=C2=A0any of the Continental Currenc=
    y.=20
    =C2=A0=20
    After reading a few articles it appears that he never did sign any of the C=
    ontinental Currency paper, but I did find his signature on Continental Bill=
    of Exchange notes. But they go for way out of my=C2=A0price range, but nic=
    e to know his=C2=A0signature is out there.=20
    =C2=A0=20
    Interesting individual,=C2=A0my niece who lives in Philadelphia, did go=C2=
    =A0to his grave, which is not far from Ben Franklin's grave, they were quit=
    e well known to each other and had many dealings=C2=A0during his tenure as =
    Treasurer.=20
    =C2=A0=20
    =C2=A0=20
    http://scripophily.net/coloofbiofex.html =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 This link shows=
    some of those "loan?"notes that went for sale that contain Michael Hillega=
    s signatures.=20
    =C2=A0=20
    =C2=A0=20
    http://hsp.org/sites/default/files/legacy_files/migrated/findingaidam080208=
    03hillegas.pdf =C2=A0=C2=A0 Info on Michael Hillegas from the Historical So=
    ciety.=20
    =C2=A0=20
    http://www.warrenwelch.us/books/MemoirFT.pdf =C2=A0=C2=A0 More info on Hill=
    egas=20
    =C2=A0=20
    Michael Hillegas finally got recognition for his work and title when his po=
    rtrait made it in=C2=A01907-1922 $10 Gold Certificate=C2=A0 series.=20
    =C2=A0=20
    Michael Hillegas=C2=A0 and I have the same grandfather,=C2=A0 for me my 7th=
    Great Grandfather and for him, his Grandfather, his father was the brother=
    of my 6th Great Grandfather Johan=C2=A0Frederick Hillegas.=20
    =C2=A0=20
    Don Hartman=20
    =C2=A0=20




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    div style=3D'font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'><P>Ray, I=
    would have to reread some of the info, but he was one of wealth and standi=
    ng in Philadelphia at the time, a financial contributor to the Rev War effo=
    rt, so not knowing the particulars, it seems that those facts are part of t=
    he reason, will look later today.  </P>
    <P>Don<BR><BR></P>
    <P>
    <HR id=3Dzwchr>
    </P>
    <P><B>From: </B>"Ray Williams" <njraywms@optonline.net><BR><B>To: </B=
    >colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com<BR><B>Sent: </B>Friday, October 25, 2013 9:=
    16:10 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Continental Notes &n=
    bsp; Atttn: Ray Williams<BR><BR>
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    <P>Hi Don,<BR>    It's cool having someone of that importanc=
    e in your family tree.  With the "prejudice" you imply, I wonder how H=
    illegas ever got appointed treasurer?  Do you know?<BR>Ray<BR><BR><BR>
    <DIV class=3Dmoz-cite-prefix>On 10/25/2013 8:59 AM, DonH wrote:<BR></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3Dmid:1948206589.4138873.1382705998886.JavaMail.root@sz003=
    8a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000">
    <P>Ray, I found a Bio on him that stated "Michael Hillegas never signed any=
    of the currency, unlike those who held the position later on. The only Hil=
    legas signature appears to be that of his son Samuel Hillegas. </P>
    <P>Here are some of the notes that are listed in the Mass Historical Societ=
    y website <A href=3D"http://www.masshist.org/findingaids/doc.cfm?fa=3Dfao00=
    05" target=3D_blank>http://www.masshist.org/findingaids/doc.cfm?fa=3Dfao000=
    5</A> </P>
    <P> </P>
    <P>Continental currency, serial no. 583636 series C, issued by Congress on =
    17 February 1776 for two thirds of a dollar. Signed by S. Hillegas.</P>
    <P>Continental currency, serial no. 37826, issued by Congress on 17 Februar=
    y 1776 for four dollars. Signed by S. Hillegas and S.C. Morris.</P>
    <P>Continental currency, serial no. [82264], issued by Congress on 9 May 17=
    76 for five dollars. Signed by S.C. Morris and S. Hillegas</P>
    <P>Continental currency, serial no. 78434, issued by Congress on 9 May 1776=
    for six dollars. Signed by S. Hillegas and S.C. Morris.</P>
    <P>Continental currency, serial no. 78434, issued by Congress on 9 May 1776=
    for six dollars. Signed by S. Hillegas and S.C. Morris.</P>
    <P>Continental currency, serial no. illegible, issued by Congress on 2 Nove=
    mber 1776 for three dollars. Signed by S. Hillegas.</P>
    <P>Continental currency, serial no. 5840, issued by Congress on 2 November =
    1776 for four dollars. Signed by S. Hillegas and B. Brannan.</P>
    <P> </P>
    <P><FONT size=3D4>One thing to note about Michael Hillegas, it appears his =
    name was never given the notoriety that you would have expected for being t=
    he first solo Treasurer of the United States, it seems that since he was ba=
    sically of German heritage and not British that his importance in history a=
    t that time was downplayed because of his nationality.  I read qu=
    ite a few articles on that subject, which I have saved somewhere but the cr=
    ash of my desktop earlier this month has me at a point where data like that=
    is not immediately on hand for me to show.</FONT></P>
    <P> </P>
    <P><FONT size=3D4>Don</FONT></P>
    <P><BR> </P>
    <P></P>
    <HR id=3Dzwchr>

    <P><B>From: </B>"Ray Williams" <A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E href=3D"mai=
    lto:njraywms@optonline.net" target=3D_blank><njraywms@optonline.net><=
    /A><BR><B>To: </B><A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-abbreviated href=3D"mailto:coloni=
    al-coins@yahoogroups.com" target=3D_blank>colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</A=
    ><BR><B>Sent: </B>Thursday, October 24, 2013 10:39:43 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B=
    >Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Continental Notes   Atttn: Ray Williams<BR=
    ><BR><SPAN> </SPAN> </P>
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    <P>Who was the Hillegas that signed the 1776 fractional Continental Currenc=
    y?  I had fun talking to the club - it was a long drive home afterward=
    s...<BR>Ray<BR><BR><BR></P>
    <DIV class=3Dmoz-cite-prefix>On 10/24/2013 6:53 PM, DonH wrote:<BR></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3Dmid:997099712.4130852.1382655232102.JavaMail.root@sz0038=
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000">
    <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000">Ray, aft=
    er your talk on Continental currency at the ACNS meeting on Monday  I =
    got reinterested in researching to see if my 1st cousin 5 times remove=
    d, Michael Hillegas, 1st Treasurer of the United States/Continental Congres=
    s did in fact sign or not sign any of the Continental Currency.</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000"> </=
    DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000">After re=
    ading a few articles it appears that he<U> never did </U>sign any of the Co=
    ntinental Currency paper, but I did find his signature on Continental Bill =
    of Exchange notes. But they go for way out of my price range, but nice=
    to know his signature is out there.</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000"> </=
    DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000">Interest=
    ing individual, my niece who lives in Philadelphia, did go to his=
    grave, which is not far from Ben Franklin's grave, they were quite well kn=
    own to each other and had many dealings during his tenure as Treasurer=
    .</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000"> </=
    DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000"> <B=
    R><A href=3D"http://scripophily.net/coloofbiofex.html" target=3D_blank>http=
    ://scripophily.net/coloofbiofex.html</A>    This link shows =
    some of those "loan?"notes that went for sale that contain Michael Hillegas=
    signatures.</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000"><A href=
    =3D"http://scripophily.net/coloofbiofex.html" target=3D_blank> </A></D=
    IV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000"> </=
    DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000"><A href=
    =3D"http://hsp.org/sites/default/files/legacy_files/migrated/findingaidam08=
    020803hillegas.pdf" target=3D_blank>http://hsp.org/sites/default/files/lega=
    cy_files/migrated/findingaidam08020803hillegas.pdf</A>   Info on =
    Michael Hillegas from the Historical Society.</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000"> </=
    DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000"><A href=
    =3D"http://www.warrenwelch.us/books/MemoirFT.pdf" target=3D_blank>http://ww=
    w.warrenwelch.us/books/MemoirFT.pdf</A>   More info on Hillegas</=
    DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000"> </=
    DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000">Michael =
    Hillegas finally got recognition for his work and <U>title</U> when his por=
    trait made it in 1907-1922 $10 Gold Certificate  series.</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000"> </=
    DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000">Michael =
    Hillegas  and I have the same grandfather,  for me my 7th Great G=
    randfather and for him, his Grandfather, his father was the brother of my 6=
    th Great Grandfather Johan Frederick Hillegas.</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000"> </=
    DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000">Don Hart=
    man</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000"> </=
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