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From: "John Louis" <johnwlouis@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: [contemporarycounterfeitworldcoins]friend lost
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Todd used to clean-up all the old coppers at our local coin club! (when the=
y surfaced)
No one else bid.
Then he got me interested in colonials!
After that I started buying old british coins on ebay and I found myself bi=
dding on the same stuff as some guy named haypny and then dp1787!
I've since met them both and now consider them my friends.
:O)
jwl
PS Today Todd and I are the only ones who bring/sell anything interesting =
at the coin club!
The rest are mercury dimes and proof sets!
PSS However, I still pick up a few Silver Dollars now and then!
----- Original Message -----=20
From: todd gredesky=20
To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: [contemporarycounterfeitworldcoin=
s]friend lost
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There were a lot of weak VF/EF British halfpennys in 50 cent junkboxes 2=
0-25 years ago.
My only regret was not buying more. Also found some decent colonials too.
I dont think those dealers knew what colonials were.
From: Jeff Rock <rosaamltd@gmail.com>
To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=20
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: [contemporarycounterfeitworldcoin=
s]friend lost
=20=20=20=20
If he bought the piece a fair amount of time ago, then a junkbox may have=
been accurate -- there were still things to be found in them! Not 50 cent=
junkboxes, but dealers used to have $1, $5 and $10 ones and a weak VF/EF B=
ritish halfpenny wouldn't have been a whole lot more than that 20-25 years =
ago. He may have owned it a long time before it was attributed as a Machin=
s, of course.
The story I refuse to believe is the 1870-S Half Dime that was supposedly=
found in a junkbox. A Choice AU (now it's MS64 with gradeflation I think)=
half dime would have NEVER been in a junk box....
Jeff
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Will N <books@bowmanstonepress.com> wro=
te:
=20=20=20=20=20=20
I sure that he used the phrase 'junkbox', but he might have been using =
the term figuratively to indicate 'unattributed'. I didn't know him well, b=
ut hapoened to be with him at a dealer table where 24-72Cs were being discu=
ssed.=20
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-----Original message-----
From: Jack Howes <j.howes@comcast.net>
To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Dec 30, 2013 17:51:04 GMT+00:00=20
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: [contemporarycounterfeitworld=
coins]friend lost
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I am quite sure, Ed told me he had purchased that 24-87C from someone=
as counterfeit before it was written up by August. I don't know whether E=
d thought it was Machin's related when he bought it. I suspect he did not =
and only realized it was, after Dick published on it.
On 12/30/2013 9:42 AM, Roger Siboni wrote:=20
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
Hi All.
Perhaps I miss heard him, or perhaps it is one of the stories that =
morphs over time. But I do agree with Dave about its quality (that part I h=
ave seen) and I do remember him telling me the story about him having it fo=
r many many years and along with Mike figuring out it was a Machin. Perhap=
s the part I missed was that Mike knew because he had previously discovered=
one with Richard A.
Either way, Ed was a true gentleman and a great numismatic mind to =
talk to.
Best,
Roger
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 30, 2013, at 12:58 AM, "palmers4@rcn.com" <palmers4@rcn.com>=
wrote:
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Will, Ed had the nicest 24-72C I ever saw. It went to a well know=
n
collector of=20
quality items from NJ. David
Original email:
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From: Will N books@bowmanstonepress.com
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2013 20:11:21 -0600
To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re:=20
[contemporarycounterfeitworldcoins]friend lost
Didn't Ed fish a nice 24-72C out of a dealer 'junkbox' later on? =
I think I=20
heard him say that.
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To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, Dec 29, 2013 14:53:01 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re:=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Todd <STRONG><FONT size=3D3>used to</FONT>=
</STRONG>=20
clean-up all the old coppers at our local coin club! (when they=20
surfaced)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>No one else bid.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Then he got me interested in=20
colonials!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>After that I started buying old british co=
ins on=20
ebay and I found myself bidding on the same stuff as some guy named haypny =
and=20
then dp1787!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I've since met them both and now consider =
them my=20
friends.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>:O)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>jwl</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>PS Today Todd and I are the only one=
s who=20
bring/sell anything interesting at the coin club!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>The rest are mercury dimes and proof=
=20
sets!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>PSS However, I still pick up a few S=
ilver=20
Dollars now and then!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
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<A title=3Dnjtodd7@yahoo.com href=3D"mailto:njtodd7@yahoo.com">todd grede=
sky</A>=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 31, 2013 1=
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AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Colonial Numismatics=
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<DIV><SPAN>There were a lot of weak VF/EF British halfpennys in 50 =
cent=20
junkboxes 20-25 years ago.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>My only regret was not buying more. Also found some decent=20
colonials too.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>I dont think those dealers knew what colonials were.</SPAN></D=
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face=3DArial><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Jeff R=
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style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <A=20
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<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, Decembe=
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2013 11:46 PM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>=
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<DIV>If he bought the piece a fair amount of time ago, then a junkbox may=
have=20
been accurate -- there were still things to be found in them! Not 5=
0=20
cent junkboxes, but dealers used to have $1, $5 and $10 ones and a weak V=
F/EF=20
British halfpenny wouldn't have been a whole lot more than that 20-25 yea=
rs=20
ago. He may have owned it a long time before it was attributed as a=
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Machins, of course.</DIV>
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<DIV>The story I refuse to believe is the 1870-S Half Dime that was suppo=
sedly=20
found in a junkbox. A Choice AU (now it's MS64 with gradeflation I=
=20
think) half dime would have NEVER been in a junk box....</DIV>
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<DIV>Jeff</DIV></DIV>
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ill N=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 16px">I sure that he =
used=20
the phrase 'junkbox', but he might have been using the term figurativel=
y to=20
indicate 'unattributed'. I didn't know him well, but hapoened to be wit=
h him=20
at a dealer table where 24-72Cs were being discussed.=20
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<DIV><U></U><BR clear=3Dnone>I am quite sure, Ed told me he had purch=
ased=20
that 24-87C from someone as counterfeit before it was written up by=20
August. I don't know whether Ed thought it was Machin's related=
when=20
he bought it. I suspect he did not and only realized it was, af=
ter=20
Dick published on it.<BR clear=3Dnone><BR clear=3Dnone><BR clear=3Dno=
ne>On=20
12/30/2013 9:42 AM, Roger Siboni wrote: </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><SPAN> </SPAN>=20
<DIV>
<DIV>Hi All.</DIV>
<DIV><BR clear=3Dnone></DIV>
<DIV>Perhaps I miss heard him, or perhaps it is one of the stories =
that=20
morphs over time. But I do agree with Dave about its quality (that =
part=20
I have seen) and I do remember him telling me the story about him h=
aving=20
it for many many years and along with Mike figuring out it was a Ma=
chin.=20
Perhaps the part I missed was that Mike knew because he had=20
previously discovered one with Richard A.</DIV>
<DIV><BR clear=3Dnone></DIV>
<DIV>Either way, Ed was a true gentleman and a great numismatic min=
d to=20
talk to.</DIV>
<DIV><BR clear=3Dnone></DIV>
<DIV>Best,</DIV>
<DIV><BR clear=3Dnone></DIV>
<DIV>Roger<BR clear=3Dnone><BR clear=3Dnone>Sent from my iPad</DIV>
<DIV><BR clear=3Dnone>On Dec 30, 2013, at 12:58 AM, "<A=20
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<DIV>Will, Ed had the nicest 24-72C I ever saw. It went to a well=
=20
known<BR clear=3Dnone>collector of <BR clear=3Dnone>quality items=
from NJ.=20
David<BR clear=3Dnone><BR clear=3Dnone>Original email:<BR=20
clear=3Dnone>-----------------<BR clear=3Dnone>From: Will N <A=20
href=3D"mailto:books@bowmanstonepress.com" shape=3Drect rel=3Dnof=
ollow=20
target=3D_blank=20
ymailto=3D"mailto:books@bowmanstonepress.com">books@bowmanstonepr=
ess.com</A><BR=20
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href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" shape=3Drect rel=
=3Dnofollow=20
target=3D_blank=20
ymailto=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@=
yahoogroups.com</A><BR=20
clear=3Dnone>Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: <BR=20
clear=3Dnone>[contemporarycounterfeitworldcoins]friend lost<BR=20
clear=3Dnone><BR clear=3Dnone>Didn't Ed fish a nice 24-72C out of=
a dealer=20
'junkbox' later on? I think I <BR clear=3Dnone>heard him say that=
.<BR=20
clear=3Dnone><BR clear=3Dnone>Connected by DROID on Verizon Wirel=
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ymailto=3D"mailto:g_trudgen@yahoo.com">g_trudgen@yahoo.com</A><BR=
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