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From: Jeff Rock <rosaamltd@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Chalmer's Shilling
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One of my projects to eventually do was to try and figure out exactly
that! You could have carved wood with a small sharp knife, more like an
Xacto blade than an electric Dremel -- I suspect that the image was
sketched out on paper and then transferred to the wood block and the parts
without a design were carved away. There may have been some mechanical way
to do it as well, or perhaps even chemical -- some sort of weak acid that
would burn away the wood that didn't have the design imprinted. They are
definitely cool relics. I've picked up a few neat "association" items over
the years -- wood coin storage boxes from the coin company that Virgil
Brand owned, the felt trays that held the world's greatest exhibit of
Massachusetts silver, the receipt for the purchase of the Hillyer Ryder
colonial collection, and various other odds and ends. They are very neat
links to our collecting forefathers!
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Ray Williams <njraywms@optonline.net>wrote=
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>
> Jeff,
> That's very cool! I wonder how they did it! Do you think that they
> had primitive dremel tools to engrave? The coin would be sketched on the
> wood first, then the excess wood removed?
> Ray
>
>
>
> On 1/4/2014 2:02 PM, Jeff Rock wrote:
>
> Sure thing, Ray -- here's one that Syd may like too, since it is the
> wood block for the 1733 Rosa Twopence piece. You can get an idea of the
> size and thickness in the two pics -- they were very well made and have
> lasted all these years!
>
> Jeff
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 5:06 AM, Ray Williams <njraywms@optonline.net>wrot=
e:
>
>>
>>
>> The original wood printing blocks for Crosby!!! WOW!!! I'd love to see
>> them sometime. Could you post a picture of what one of the looks like?
>> Ray
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/3/2014 11:11 PM, Jeff Rock wrote:
>>
>> Ray I didn't really keep track where things came from, though most were
>> from Prime, Crosby, the Guttag Brothers book, and some were from English
>> books that had engravings like Pembroke. A lot of the images were used =
and
>> reused in various publications. I have about 40 of the original wood
>> printing blocks used to print the line cuts in Crosby, which are kind of
>> cool links to the past. I meant to display them at C4 sometime....maybe=
if
>> someone organizes a display on Crosby I can lend them for the exhibit or
>> something.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Ray Williams <njraywms@optonline.net>wro=
te:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Will
>>> Ray
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/3/2014 1:01 PM, books@bowmanstonepress.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I didn't do a long worm obverse or the reverse, but here are a few
>>> others....
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------------------------- Original Message
>>> ----------------------------
>>> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Chalmer's Shilling [1 Attachment]
>>> From: "william gleckler" <wgleckler@sbcglobal.net><wgleckler@sbcglobal.=
net>
>>> Date: Fri, January 3, 2014 12:04 pm
>>> To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
>>>
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------=
---
>>>
>>>
>>> > Hi Ray, I am on my way out the door to begin the snow removal process
>>> that will take about the next 4 hours. This is an image I scanned from =
book
>>> called the rare coin encyclopedia. copyright 1901 by Wm. Von Bergen and=
the
>>> Universal Coin Dealers Directory. Thanks for reminding me of this volum=
e.
>>> It is quite interesting
>>> > On Jan 2, 2014, at 9:33 PM, Ray Williams wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Hi All!
>>> >> I am looking for a line drawing of a Chalmer's Shilling. Does
>>> >> anyone have such an animal to help me out? Or can you refer me to a
>>> >> reference that has one?
>>> >> Thanks
>>> >> Ray
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">One of my projects to eventually do was to try and figure =
out exactly that!=A0 You could have carved wood with a small sharp knife, m=
ore like an Xacto blade than an electric Dremel=A0-- I suspect that the ima=
ge was sketched out on paper and then transferred to the wood block and the=
parts without a design were carved away.=A0 There may have been some mecha=
nical way to do it as well, or perhaps even chemical -- some sort of weak a=
cid that would burn away the wood that didn't have the design imprinted=
.=A0 They are definitely cool relics.=A0 I've picked up a few neat &quo=
t;association" items over the years -- wood coin storage boxes from th=
e coin company that Virgil Brand owned, the felt trays that held the world&=
#39;s greatest exhibit of Massachusetts silver, the receipt for the purchas=
e of the Hillyer Ryder colonial collection, and various other odds and ends=
.=A0 They are very neat links to our collecting forefathers!</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 4=
, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Ray Williams <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:nj=
raywms@optonline.net" target=3D"_blank">njraywms@optonline.net</a>></spa=
n> wrote:<br>
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Jeff,<br>
=A0=A0=A0 That's very cool!=A0 I wonder how they did it!=A0 Do you =
think that
they had primitive dremel tools to engrave?=A0 The coin would be
sketched on the wood first, then the excess wood removed?<br>
Ray<div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
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<br>
<div>On 1/4/2014 2:02 PM, Jeff Rock wrote:<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div>Sure thing, Ray -- here's one that Syd may like too, since
it is the wood block for the 1733 Rosa Twopence piece.=A0 You
can get an idea of the size and thickness in the two pics --
they were very well made and have lasted all these years!</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Jeff</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 5:06 AM, Ray
Williams <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:njraywms@optonli=
ne.net" target=3D"_blank">njraywms@optonline.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left-color:rgb(=
204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">
<div>
<span>=A0</span>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p> The original wood printing blocks for Crosby!!!=A0
WOW!!!=A0 I'd love to see them sometime.=A0 Could=
you
post a picture of what one of the looks like?<br>
Ray</p>
<div>
<div><br>
<br>
<br>
<div>On 1/3/2014 11:11 PM, Jeff Rock wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div>Ray I didn't really keep track where
things came from, though most were from
Prime, Crosby, the Guttag Brothers book,
and some were from English books that had
engravings like Pembroke.=A0 A lot of the
images were used and reused in various
publications.=A0 I have about 40 of the
original wood printing blocks used to
print the line cuts in Crosby, which are
kind of cool links to the past.=A0 I meant
to display them at C4 sometime....maybe if
someone organizes a display on Crosby I
can lend them for the exhibit or
something.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Jeff</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 3, 2014
at 1:42 PM, Ray Williams <span dir=3D"ltr">&l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:njraywms@optonline.net" target=3D"_blank">njraywms@opto=
nline.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"bo=
rder-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:so=
lid">
<div> <span>=A0</span>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p> Thanks Will<br>
Ray<br>
<br>
<br>
</p>
<div>On 1/3/2014 1:01 PM, <a href=
=3D"mailto:books@bowmanstonepress.com" target=3D"_blank">books@bowmanstonep=
ress.com</a>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<p><br>
I didn't do a long worm
obverse or the reverse, but
here are a few others....</p>
<p><br>
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Original Message
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>
Subject: Re: [Colonial
Numismatics] Chalmer's
Shilling [1 Attachment]<br>
From: "william gleckler&qu=
ot; <a href=3D"mailto:wgleckler@sbcglobal.net" target=3D"_blank"><wgleck=
ler@sbcglobal.net></a><br>
Date: Fri, January 3, 2014
12:04 pm<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:colonial-=
coins@yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_blank">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</a>=
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> Hi Ray, I am on my way
out the door to begin the
snow removal process that
will take about the next 4
hours. This is an image I
scanned from book called the
rare coin encyclopedia.
copyright 1901 by Wm. Von
Bergen and the Universal
Coin Dealers Directory.
Thanks for reminding me of
this volume. It is quite
interesting<br>
</div>
<div> > On Jan 2, 2014, at
9:33 PM, Ray Williams wrote:<br=
>
><br>
</div>
<div> >> Hi All!<br>
>> I am looking for a
line drawing of a Chalmer's
Shilling. Does<br>
>> anyone have such an
animal to help me out? Or
can you refer me to a<br>
>> reference that has
one?<br>
>> Thanks<br>
>> Ray<br>
>><br>
>><br>
><br>
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