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Yep, I had one today in today that was puffed up the size of a mushball.
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 5:24 PM, John Louis <johnwlouis@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> Bruce, speaking of birds, I recently noticed a bazillion ROBINS flying
> around my house and in my back yard.
> My holly tree was loaded with red berries but they stripped it bare!
> I had no idea they were around NJ in freezing temperatures. I thought tha=
t
> birds like this fly south for the winter.
> Then I googled "winter robins." Apparently it is not at all uncommon to
> see such a sight!
>
> http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=3Dwinter+robins&ei=3DUTF-8&fr=3Dw3i&type=
=3DW3i_DS,157,0_0,Search,20121042,6902,0,29,0
> jwl
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Bruce Smith <bhsmith325@gmail.com>
> *To:* colonial-coins <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, January 06, 2014 5:14 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Colonial Numismatics] JPL Recommendations: Best Buys
> for2014:TOP 10 List [1 Attachment]
>
>
>
> I paid $85 for Taylor lot 1005, the 3rd Woods 2 in the sale, recently. It
> went for $22 in the sale.
>
> Birds have been massing at the feeders all day. Nine below, just like in
> the song.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DWBW9hYLsSHE
>
> Not suffering too much in San Diego I hope, Jeff <s>.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Jeff Rock <rosaamltd@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> David, the Taylor Blacksmiths were an odd occurrence. They didn't
>> actually "sell" at the auction, as I think you know. The collection was
>> purchased from Warren Baker intact by Don Partrick, with the understandi=
ng
>> that it would be catalogued for the record. Don simply sat in the front=
,
>> raised his hand and bought back 95% of the lots -- the few he didn't buy
>> were duplicates or things he already owned a better example of. So sinc=
e
>> he was the seller AND the buyer (and I'm sure had a deal cut with Bowers
>> and Merena), it didn't matter whether he paid $40 or $40000 for somethin=
g,
>> it was just shifting money from one pocket to another!
>>
>> However, it is safe to say that if that exact collection appeared for
>> sale today, the prices would be significantly higher, pretty much across
>> the board, perhaps with the exception of Wood 33 and 42. Even more comm=
on
>> things like Wood 11 and 18 have been bringing a few hundred a pop on eba=
y
>> recently, and these would have been $50 or so then!
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 9:37 PM, palmers4@rcn.com <palmers4@rcn.com>wrote=
:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> John, you say prices are going up on Blacksmith's, have they caught up =
to
>>> prices
>>> paid at the Taylor Sale??? David
>>>
>>> Original email:
>>> -----------------
>>> From: johnmenc@optonline.net
>>> Date: 05 Jan 2014 16:13:47 -0800
>>> To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] JPL Recommendations: Best Buys
>>> for2014:TOP
>>> 10 List
>>>
>>> We can't blame Mexico for having its Revolution with Spain in 1811 -
>>> the
>>> coinage
>>> which circulated, emergency issues and the circulation patterns are
>>> similar
>>> to
>>> the U.S. Colonial coppers in many ways - the Forgotten Book revision is
>>> dead ...
>>> it seems ... the reasons really can only be discussed privately. Some o=
f
>>> the
>>> information prepared can be published like some significant findings wi=
th
>>> the
>>> Blacksmiths ... but again it was a book for the beginners to simply bri=
ng
>>> more
>>> people to the collecting of CC's of all types. Besides the field of CC
>>> collecting has mushroomed since its publication. I do believe I came up
>>> with a
>>> proper attribution system for the British 1/2d's which really needs to
>>> be
>>> developed ... when an attribution system is schizophrenic as it is NOW =
it
>>> does
>>> inhibit new collectors due to the complexity of its learning curve ... =
I
>>> collected these for 20 years and sold them in 2008 but since I have not
>>> been in
>>> the in-group for the last 5 years with Roger & Co. I have no idea what
>>> the
>>> hell
>>> is going on with these families or their discussions ... just saying ..=
.
>>> it
>>> needs to be more user-friendly.
>>> The Blacksmiths are tough - there crude, no legends, there like
>>> collecting
>>> cast
>>> British/Irish 1/2d's ... just tough to like & fully understand and the
>>> rare
>>> types maybe ONE-TWO surface every year and most are Unique as in the Ba=
nk
>>> of
>>> Canada Collection. I have not added a variety in about 10 years. But
>>> prices
>>> have
>>> been going up and collectors (U.S. & Canadian) are starting to realize
>>> that
>>> these are the most desirable pieces in their Colonial period.
>>>
>>>
>>> JPL
>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Yep, I had one today in today that was puffed up the size =
of a mushball.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote">On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 5:24 PM, John Louis <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a =
href=3D"mailto:johnwlouis@comcast.net" target=3D"_blank">johnwlouis@comcast=
.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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</p><div><font face=3D"Arial">Bruce, speaking of birds, I recently noticed =
a=20
bazillion ROBINS flying around my house and in my back yard. </font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">My holly tree was loaded with red berries but the=
y=20
stripped it bare! </font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">I had no idea they were around NJ in freezing=20
temperatures. I thought that birds like this fly south for the=20
winter.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">Then=A0I googled "winter robins." Appar=
ently it=20
is not at all uncommon to see such a sight!</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial"><a href=3D"http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=3Dwin=
ter+robins&ei=3DUTF-8&fr=3Dw3i&type=3DW3i_DS,157,0_0,Search,201=
21042,6902,0,29,0" target=3D"_blank">http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=3Dwin=
ter+robins&ei=3DUTF-8&fr=3Dw3i&type=3DW3i_DS,157,0_0,Search,201=
21042,6902,0,29,0</a></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">jwl</font></div>
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<div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial;BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b>=20
<a title=3D"bhsmith325@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:bhsmith325@gmail.com" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">Bruce=20
Smith</a> </div>
<div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"colonial-coins@yaho=
ogroups.com" href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_blan=
k">colonial-coins</a> </div>
<div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 06, 2014 5:14=
=20
PM</div>
<div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Colonial Numismatics]=
JPL=20
Recommendations: Best Buys for2014:TOP 10 List [1 Attachment]</div>
<div><br></div><span>=A0</span>=20
<div>
<p>
</p><div dir=3D"ltr">I paid $85 for Taylor lot 1005, the 3rd Woods 2 in t=
he sale,=20
recently. It went for $22 in the sale.
<div><br></div>
<div>Birds have been massing at the feeders all day. Nine below, just lik=
e in=20
the song.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DWBW9hYLsSHE" target=3D"_=
blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DWBW9hYLsSHE</a><br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Not suffering too much in San Diego I hope, Jeff <s>.</div></d=
iv>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Jeff Rock <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:rosaamltd@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank"=
>rosaamltd@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid" class=3D"gmail_quote"><u=
></u>
<div><span>=A0</span>=20
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<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div>David, the Taylor Blacksmiths were an odd occurrence.=A0 They didn=
't=20
actually "sell" at the auction, as I think you know.=A0 The c=
ollection=20
was purchased from Warren Baker intact by Don Partrick, with the=20
understanding that it would be catalogued for the record.=A0 Don simply=
=20
sat in the front, raised his hand and bought back 95% of the lots -- th=
e few=20
he didn't buy were duplicates or things he already owned a better e=
xample=20
of.=A0 So since he was the seller AND the buyer (and I'm sure had a=
deal=20
cut with Bowers and Merena), it didn't matter whether he paid $40 o=
r $40000=20
for something, it was just shifting money from one pocket to another!</=
div>
<div><br></div>
<div>However, it is safe to say that if that exact collection appeared =
for=20
sale today, the prices would be significantly higher, pretty much acros=
s the=20
board, perhaps with the exception of Wood 33 and 42.=A0 Even more commo=
n=20
things like Wood 11 and 18 have been bringing a few hundred a pop on eb=
ay=20
recently, and these would have been $50 or so then!</div></div>
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 9:37 PM, <a href=3D"m=
ailto:palmers4@rcn.com" target=3D"_blank">palmers4@rcn.com</a> <span dir=3D=
"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:palmers4@rcn.com" target=3D"_blank">palmers4@rc=
n.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid" class=3D"gmail_quote">=
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<p>John, you say prices are going up on Blacksmith's, have they c=
aught up=20
to<br>prices <br>paid at the Taylor Sale??? David<br><br>Original=20
email:<br>-----------------<br>From: <a href=3D"mailto:johnmenc@opton=
line.net" target=3D"_blank">johnmenc@optonline.net</a><br>Date: 05 Jan 2014=
16:13:47=20
-0800<br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" target=
=3D"_blank">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</a></p>
<div><br>Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] JPL Recommendations: Bes=
t=20
Buys<br>for2014:TOP <br>10 List<br><br></div>
<div>
<div>We can't blame Mexico for having its Revolution with Spain i=
n 1811 -=20
the<br>coinage <br>which circulated, emergency issues and the circula=
tion=20
patterns are similar<br>to <br>the U.S. Colonial coppers in many ways=
-=20
the Forgotten Book revision is<br>dead ... <br>it seems ... the reaso=
ns=20
really can only be discussed privately. Some of<br>the <br>informatio=
n=20
prepared can be published like some significant findings with<br>the=
=20
<br>Blacksmiths ... but again it was a book for the beginners to simp=
ly=20
bring<br>more <br>people to the collecting of CC's of all types. =
Besides=20
the field of CC <br>collecting has mushroomed since its publication. =
I do=20
believe I came up<br>with a <br>proper attribution system for the Bri=
tish=20
1/2d's which really needs to be <br>developed ... when an attribu=
tion=20
system is schizophrenic as it is NOW it<br>does <br>inhibit new colle=
ctors=20
due to the complexity of its learning curve ... I <br>collected these=
for=20
20 years and sold them in 2008 but since I have not<br>been in <br>th=
e=20
in-group for the last 5 years with Roger & Co. I have no idea wha=
t=20
the<br>hell <br>is going on with these families or their discussions =
...=20
just saying ... it <br>needs to be more user-friendly.<br>The Blacksm=
iths=20
are tough - there crude, no legends, there like collecting<br>cast=20
<br>British/Irish 1/2d's ... just tough to like & fully under=
stand and=20
the rare <br>types maybe ONE-TWO surface every year and most are Uniq=
ue as=20
in the Bank<br>of <br>Canada Collection. I have not added a variety i=
n=20
about 10 years. But prices<br>have <br>been going up and collectors (=
U.S.=20
& Canadian) are starting to realize that <br>these are the most=20
desirable pieces in their Colonial period.<br><br><br>JPL=20
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