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From: "palmers4@rcn.com" <palmers4@rcn.com>
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Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] JPL Recommendations: Best Buys for2014:TOP10 List
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Yes, I knew the story after the fact, not while the auction was going on. I
sat=20
in the room, and had 2 Canadian dealers behind me that laughed their butts
off=20
at how stupid the prices were, and how easily they could supply the same or=
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better grade pieces much cheaper. Kind of like Rob Retz and I were laughing
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regard to Fugios at Ford. David
Original email:
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From: Jeff Rock rosaamltd@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 09:54:55 -0800
To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] JPL Recommendations: Best Buys
for2014:TOP10=20
List
David, the Taylor Blacksmiths were an odd occurrence. They didn't actually
"sell" at the auction, as I think you know. The collection was purchased
from Warren Baker intact by Don Partrick, with the understanding that it
would be catalogued for the record. Don simply sat in the front, raised
his hand and bought back 95% of the lots -- the few he didn't buy were
duplicates or things he already owned a better example of. So since he was
the seller AND the buyer (and I'm sure had a deal cut with Bowers and
Merena), it didn't matter whether he paid $40 or $40000 for something, it
was just shifting money from one pocket to another!
However, it is safe to say that if that exact collection appeared for sale
today, the prices would be significantly higher, pretty much across the
board, perhaps with the exception of Wood 33 and 42. Even more common
things like Wood 11 and 18 have been bringing a few hundred a pop on ebay
recently, and these would have been $50 or so then!
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 9:37 PM, palmers4@rcn.com <palmers4@rcn.com> wrote:
>
>
> John, you say prices are going up on Blacksmith's, have they caught up to
> prices
> paid at the Taylor Sale??? David
>
> Original email:
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> From: johnmenc@optonline.net
> Date: 05 Jan 2014 16:13:47 -0800
> To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] JPL Recommendations: Best Buys
> for2014:TOP
> 10 List
>
> We can't blame Mexico for having its Revolution with Spain in 1811 - the
> coinage
> which circulated, emergency issues and the circulation patterns are
similar
> to
> the U.S. Colonial coppers in many ways - the Forgotten Book revision is
> dead ...
> it seems ... the reasons really can only be discussed privately. Some of
> the
> information prepared can be published like some significant findings with
> the
> Blacksmiths ... but again it was a book for the beginners to simply bring
> more
> people to the collecting of CC's of all types. Besides the field of CC
> collecting has mushroomed since its publication. I do believe I came up
> with a
> proper attribution system for the British 1/2d's which really needs to be
> developed ... when an attribution system is schizophrenic as it is NOW it
> does
> inhibit new collectors due to the complexity of its learning curve ... I
> collected these for 20 years and sold them in 2008 but since I have not
> been in
> the in-group for the last 5 years with Roger & Co. I have no idea what th=
e
> hell
> is going on with these families or their discussions ... just saying ...
> it
> needs to be more user-friendly.
> The Blacksmiths are tough - there crude, no legends, there like collectin=
g
> cast
> British/Irish 1/2d's ... just tough to like & fully understand and the
> rare
> types maybe ONE-TWO surface every year and most are Unique as in the Bank
> of
> Canada Collection. I have not added a variety in about 10 years. But
prices
> have
> been going up and collectors (U.S. & Canadian) are starting to realize
> that
> these are the most desirable pieces in their Colonial period.
>
>
> JPL
>
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