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From: Bruce Smith <bhsmith325@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Eric Newman envelope
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Your most recent list is the only one I have, Jeff. I'd appreciate seeing a
shot of the envelope if you have it.
This photo is the one that made me think my envelope might be a Newman
piece.
http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=3D26&threadid=3D903759
Here is mine again. I bought the coin from one James C. Van Horn in 2004.
Bruce
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 12:42 AM, Jeff Rock <rosaamltd@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Bruce, if it was bought 10 years ago it isn't a Keller envelope -- he
> didn't sell anything while he was alive, and while some things were stole=
n
> from him in the 1960's those were his Mass silver and coppers (and
> certainly wouldn't have been in the same envelopes!). So maybe it is a
> Newman piece. Eric also didn't part with things, though he did sell a
> group to Mike Ringo at a very low price in return for some work Mike did
> for him with his collection. I had one of those pieces, a Muttonhead I
> think, on an earlier price list from the 1990's. I think I had a pic of
> the envelope there too -- if you don't have my earlier lists, let me know
> and I will see if I can locate it!
>
> Jeff
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Bruce Smith <bhsmith325@gmail.com> wrote=
:
>
>>
>>
>> Jeff,
>>
>> I have 2 x 2 Keller envelopes. I didn't realize there were rectangular
>> envelopes as well. I should have questioned the seller at the time, but =
10
>> years ago i probably wasn't as cognizant of the importance of provenance
>> (and this isn't a spectacular coin). Thanks for the help.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Jeff Rock <rosaamltd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bruce, yours looks more like one of the Philip Keller envelopes, which
>>> were mostly typed.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Robert Martin <robertmartin22@live.com=
>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bruce,
>>>>
>>>> I own a few Connecticut coppers, that I acquired privately
>>>> approximately 20 years ago from Eric Newman=92s collection. The coins =
were
>>>> accompanied with Eric=92s handwritten annotated envelopes. The envelop=
es are
>>>> rectangular in shape (1 & 3/4=94 x 2 & 7/8 =93) and made of brown Mani=
la type
>>>> stock paper with a curved reverse flap. The envelopes show a center cr=
ease
>>>> from folding for entry into a stock box. Eric=92s annotations on the
>>>> envelopes include handwritten attribution, weigh in grams and a % code
>>>> (20%)....I suspect some kind of cost code.
>>>>
>>>> Robert
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Bruce Smith <bhsmith325@gmail.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 19, 2014 4:22 AM
>>>> *To:* colonial-coins <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>
>>>> *Subject:* [Colonial Numismatics] Eric Newman envelope [1 Attachment]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> After seeing a few images of envelopes from Eric Newman coins, I pulle=
d
>>>> out an envelope that came with a Washington Military Bust piece that I=
had
>>>> purchased about 10 years ago. It appears to me to be consistent, but I=
'm
>>>> hoping someone here can help. I assume other collectors used similar
>>>> envelopes, but the typewritten notes look close to me. There is anothe=
r
>>>> envelope, which contained the coin, folded in half and inserted in the
>>>> outer envelope .
>>>>
>>>> Bruce
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>=20=20
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Your most recent list is the only one I have, Jeff. I'=
d appreciate seeing a shot of the envelope if you have it.<div><br></div><d=
iv>This photo is the one that made me think my envelope might be a Newman p=
iece.</div>
<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm=
?catid=3D26&threadid=3D903759">http://forums.collectors.com/messageview=
.cfm?catid=3D26&threadid=3D903759</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Here=
is mine again. I bought the coin from one James C. Van Horn in 2004.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Bruce</div></div><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 =
at 12:42 AM, Jeff Rock <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:rosaamltd@gm=
ail.com" target=3D"_blank">rosaamltd@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<u></u>
<div style>
<span>=A0</span>
<div>
<div>
<div>
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<p></p><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Bruce, if it was bought 10 years ago it =
isn't a Keller envelope -- he didn't sell anything while he was ali=
ve, and while some things were stolen from him in the 1960's=A0those we=
re his Mass silver and coppers (and certainly wouldn't have been in the=
same envelopes!).=A0 So maybe it is a Newman piece.=A0 Eric also didn'=
t part with things, though he did sell a group to Mike Ringo at a very low =
price in return for some work Mike did for him with his collection.=A0 I ha=
d one of those pieces, a Muttonhead I think, on an earlier price list from =
the 1990's.=A0 I think I had a pic of the envelope there too -- if you =
don't have my earlier lists, let me know and I will see if I can locate=
it!</div>
<div><br>Jeff</div></div><div><div class=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra">=
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Bruce S=
mith <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:bhsmith325@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">bhsmith325@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:1px #ccc solid">
<u></u>
<div>
<span>=A0</span>
<div>
<div>
<div>
=20=20=20=20=20=20
=20=20=20=20=20=20
<p></p><div dir=3D"ltr">Jeff,<div><br></div><div>I have 2 x 2 Keller =
envelopes. I didn't realize there were rectangular envelopes as well. I=
should have questioned the seller at the time, but 10 years ago i probably=
wasn't as cognizant of the importance of provenance (and this isn'=
t a spectacular coin). Thanks for the help.<div>
<br></div><div>Bruce</div></div></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><=
br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Jeff Rock <=
span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:rosaamltd@gmail.com" target=3D"_blan=
k">rosaamltd@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left-color:rgb(204,204,20=
4);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">
<u></u>
<div>
<span>=A0</span>
<div>
<div>
<div>
=20=20=20=20=20=20
=20=20=20=20=20=20
<p></p><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Bruce, yours looks more like one of the =
Philip Keller envelopes, which were mostly typed.</div><div><br></div><div>=
Jeff</div></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Robert Martin <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:robertmartin22@live.com" target=3D"_blank">robertmartin22@live.=
com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left-color:rgb(204,204,20=
4);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">
<u></u>
<div>
<span>=A0</span>
<div>
<div>
<div>
=20=20=20=20=20=20
=20=20=20=20=20=20
<p>
</p><div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family:"Calibri";font-size:12pt">
<div style=3D"font-family:"Calibri";font-size:small;font-style:no=
rmal;font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family:"Calibri";font-size:12pt">
<div>Bruce,</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>I own a few Connecticut coppers, that I acquired privately approximate=
ly 20=20
years ago from Eric Newman=92s collection. The coins were accompanied with =
Eric=92s=20
handwritten annotated envelopes. The envelopes are rectangular in shape (1 =
&=20
3/4=94 x 2 & 7/8 =93) and made of brown Manila type stock paper with a =
curved=20
reverse flap. The envelopes show a center crease from folding for entry int=
o a=20
stock box. Eric=92s annotations on the envelopes include handwritten attrib=
ution,=20
weigh in grams and a % code (20%)....I suspect some kind of cost code.</div=
>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Robert</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:"Calibri";font-size:small;font-style:no=
rmal;font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none">
<div style=3D"font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">
<div>=A0</div>
<div style=3D"background:rgb(245,245,245)">
<div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"bhsmith325@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:bhsmith3=
25@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">Bruce Smith</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 19, 2014 4:22 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" href=3D"mailto:=
colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_blank">colonial-coins</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> [Colonial Numismatics] Eric Newman envelope [1=20
Attachment]</div></div></div>
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rmal;font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none"><span>=A0</span>=20
<div>
<p>
</p><div dir=3D"ltr">After seeing a few images of envelopes from Eric Newma=
n coins, I=20
pulled out an envelope that came with a Washington Military Bust piece that=
I=20
had purchased about 10 years ago. It appears to me to be consistent, but I&=
#39;m=20
hoping someone here can help. I assume other collectors used similar envelo=
pes,=20
but the typewritten notes look close to me. There is another envelope, whic=
h=20
contained the coin, folded in half and inserted in the outer envelope .=A0=
=20
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Bruce</div></div><p></p><p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></d=
iv>
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