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Thanks, Ray I'll make a note of the Delmonte number. I wonder how difficult
it would be to put together as set comprised of an example from each
province and city? Another question (perhaps addressed in the Kleeberg?),
were coins found here from any particular province(s)? At any rate, I'm
looking forward to reading the piece.
Bruce
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 7:55 AM, Ray Williams <njraywms@optonline.net>wrote=
:
>
>
> Bruce,
> Very nice coin! It appears to be a Delmonte 845. It is unusual to
> find such a nice strike for this hammered coinage. It's an example to be
> proud of. I think CNL 153 should be out this month. Oliver could tell u=
s
> if he's watching.
> Thanks for sharing,
> Ray
>
>
>
>
> On 1/24/2014 8:10 PM, Bruce Smith wrote:
>
> Ray,
>
> I'm glad you posted this. I couldn't recall the article that you
> mentioned, and when I checked my CNLs I realized I hadn't received issue
> 152. There had been an address change mix up, but a quick call to ANS
> resolved the situation and my missing issue is being mailed. I'm not sure
> who I talked to at ANS, but they were very helpful. They weren't sure,
> however, if issue 153 was out yet. Has anyone here gotten theirs? I just
> picked up a Utrecht Lion Daalder, so I'm eager to have the article.
>
> For those who like pictures, here is the coin. It's by far the nicest of
> the small group that I have.
>
> Bruce
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 8:30 AM, Ray Williams <njraywms@optonline.net>wr=
ote:
>
>>
>>
>> Good Morning Guys and Gals,
>> Yesterday, with the freezing weather outside, I settled into my
>> recliner with a large cup of coffee and CNL 152. I reread John Kleeberg=
's
>> article, which comprised almost the entire issue. His topic was about t=
he
>> circulation of Lion Dollars in British North America and he comes up wit=
h
>> well researched new information - conclusions that I would have never
>> thought possible. Now... of what interest is this to those that collec=
t
>> Connecticut Coppers (or anything else)? Many of us have blinders on and
>> only dwell withing the narrow focus of a specialty. I was like that wit=
h
>> NJ Coppers for a decade or more. Any catalog that didn't have significa=
nt
>> NJ Coppers was delegated to be given away at a local club.
>> As I "matured" in the hobby, my interests spread out to learning mor=
e
>> about the other state coppers, and then the MA & MD Silver, and then the
>> Washington-related items, and then the "foreign" coins that composed the
>> bulk of our colonial monies. Having a better knowledge of the entire
>> colonial numismatic history and coinage has made the hobby much more fun
>> and rewarding. It even helps me have a better appreciation for the NJ
>> Coppers in which I specialize. I could go on about how much fun it is t=
o
>> read about the Spanish American 8 Real coin and that it was really a lot=
of
>> money to the common man back then, another that was from a shipwreck off
>> the coast of Australia, a French Ecu that might have been in the pocket =
of
>> a French soldier fighting side by side with our Minutemen. The couple
>> pieces of MA Silver and MD silver have fascinating stories about why the=
y
>> exist, their purpose, the men that made them, the economic climate that
>> brought them about, etc. But I won't go on...
>> I would like to recommend that you check out
>> http://numismatics.org/CNL/CNL and go to the bottom of the page. Click
>> on:
>>
>> * Kays, T. "When Cross Pistareens Cut Their Way Through the Tobacco =
Colonies <http://numismatics.org/wikiuploads/CNL/Pistareens.pdf>,"
>>
>>
>> I'd suggest printing out the article and reading in your recliner, take
>> it on a business trip, leave it on the headboard of your bed. See if th=
is
>> article doesn't give you a rewarding view of our colonial time period an=
d
>> some of the coins in circulation.
>>
>> Have a great day!
>> Ray
>>
>> PS... Diane started to discuss getting new living room furniture and
>> asked my opinion. I suggested that instead of wasting money on couches =
and
>> love seats, why not just purchase six more recliners. I fear that I wil=
l
>> have no more input as to what furniture will occupy our living room in t=
he
>> future. But it really doesn't matter at all as long as my recliner is
>> there!
>>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks, Ray I'll make a note of the Delmonte number. I=
wonder how difficult it would be to put together as set comprised of an ex=
ample from each province and city? Another question (perhaps addressed in t=
he Kleeberg?), were coins found here from any particular province(s)? At an=
y rate, I'm looking forward to reading the piece.<div>
<br></div><div>Bruce</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 7:55 AM, Ray Williams <span dir=
=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:njraywms@optonline.net" target=3D"_blank">nj=
raywms@optonline.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Bruce,<br>
=A0=A0=A0 Very nice coin!=A0 It appears to be a Delmonte 845.=A0 It is =
unusual
to find such a nice strike for this hammered coinage.=A0 It's an
example to be proud of.=A0 I think CNL 153 should be out this month.=A0
Oliver could tell us if he's watching.<br>
Thanks for sharing,<br>
Ray</p><div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div>On 1/24/2014 8:10 PM, Bruce Smith
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Ray,
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</div>
<div>I'm glad you posted this. I couldn't recall the articl=
e
that you mentioned, and when I checked my <span>CNLs</span> I rea=
lized I hadn't received issue 152.
There had been an address change mix up, but a quick call to
ANS resolved the situation and my missing issue is being
mailed. I'm not sure who I talked to at ANS, but they were
very helpful. They weren't sure, however, if issue 153 was ou=
t
yet. Has anyone here gotten theirs? I just picked up a Utrecht
=A0Lion <span>Daalder</span>, so I'm eager to
have the article.=A0</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>For those who like pictures, here is the coin. It's by far
the nicest of the small group that I have.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Bruce</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 8:30 AM, Ray Williams <span dir=3D"ltr">&=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:njraywms@optonline.net" target=3D"_blank">njraywms@opt=
online.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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olid">
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<div>
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<div>
<p> Good Morning Guys and Gals,<br>
=A0=A0=A0 Yesterday, with the freezing weather outsid=
e,
I settled into my recliner with a large cup of
coffee and CNL 152.=A0 I reread John Kleeberg's
article, which comprised almost the entire issue.=A0
His topic was about the circulation of Lion
Dollars in British North America and he comes up
with well researched new information - conclusions
that I would have never thought possible.=A0 Now...=
=A0
of what interest is this to those that collect
Connecticut Coppers (or anything else)?=A0 Many of
us have blinders on and only dwell withing the
narrow focus of a specialty.=A0 I was like that with
NJ Coppers for a decade or more.=A0 Any catalog that
didn't have significant NJ Coppers was delegated
to be given away at a local club.=A0 <br>
=A0=A0=A0 As I "matured" in the hobby, my i=
nterests
spread out to learning more about the other state
coppers, and then the MA & MD Silver, and then
the Washington-related items, and then the
"foreign" coins that composed the bulk of o=
ur
colonial monies.=A0 Having a better knowledge of the
entire colonial numismatic history and coinage has
made the hobby much more fun and rewarding.=A0 It
even helps me have a better appreciation for the
NJ Coppers in which I specialize.=A0 I could go on
about how much fun it is to read about the Spanish
American 8 Real coin and that it was really a lot
of money to the common man back then, another that
was from a shipwreck off the coast of Australia, a
French Ecu that might have been in the pocket of a
French soldier fighting side by side with our
Minutemen.=A0 The couple pieces of MA Silver and MD
silver have fascinating stories about why they
exist, their purpose, the men that made them, the
economic climate that brought them about, etc.=A0
But I won't go on...<br>
=A0=A0=A0 I would like to recommend that you check ou=
t <a href=3D"http://numismatics.org/CNL/CNL" target=3D"_blank">http://numis=
matics.org/CNL/CNL</a>
and go to the bottom of the page.=A0 Click on:<br>
<br>
</p>
<pre> * Kays, T. "<a title=3D"" href=3D"http://n=
umismatics.org/wikiuploads/CNL/Pistareens.pdf" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_=
blank">When Cross Pistareens Cut Their Way Through the Tobacco Colonies</a>=
,"=20
</pre>
<br>
I'd suggest printing out the article and reading in
your recliner, take it on a business trip, leave it
on the headboard of your bed.=A0 See if this article
doesn't give you a rewarding view of our colonial
time period and some of the coins in circulation.<br>
<br>
Have a great day!<br>
Ray<br>
<br>
PS...=A0 Diane started to discuss getting new living
room furniture and asked my opinion.=A0 I suggested
that instead of wasting money on couches and love
seats, why not just purchase six more recliners.=A0 I
fear that I will have no more input as to what
furniture will occupy our living room in the
future.=A0 But it really doesn't matter at all as l=
ong
as my recliner is there!<br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
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