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Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] the hobby
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I was at one of the Ford auctions somewhere around 2008? It was the one whe=
re I saw extremely nice woods hibernia coins being sold for thousands each.=
After the sale, I scoured ebay and other places and bought 20 or 30 coins.=
Most of mine were VF or so. The weren't as nice as the ones I saw at stack=
s, but I enjoyed buying them all the same!=20
jwl
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Will N=20
To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=20
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] the hobby
=20=20=20=20
Just wish I knew where Paul bought those coins so I could collect my comi=
ssion. :) Will=20=20
Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
-----Original message-----
From: Bruce Smith <bhsmith325@gmail.com>
To: colonial-coins <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jan 26, 2014 17:37:50 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] the hobby
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Hi Paul,
Yours is a nice example as well. The Lion's tail is particularity wild =
looking. Listening to a well presented lecture can be dangerous. The mornin=
g after John Adam's 2010 presentation in Boston I had to go out and buy an =
Admiral Vernon medal. Ditto John K's. Comitia Americana talk in 2011. Putti=
ng something on the cover of a journal can have the same effect. Read the a=
rticle, decide that somehow one of those would be a good fit for whatever I=
'm collecting, and then the hunt. Fortunately I haven't heard anyone speak =
on Brasher Doubloons or NE shillings.
Bruce
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Paul Cartmill <cartmill_paul@yahoo.co=
m> wrote:
=C2=20=20
Bruce , I picked this up in Baltimore two years ago after listening t=
o Will talk about the various coins used in the colonies, I know next to no=
thing about them , I would like to read more about them=20
paul
From: Bruce Smith <bhsmith325@gmail.com>
To: colonial-coins <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>=20
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 5:10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] the hobby [1 Attachment]
=C2=20=20
Ray,
I'm glad you posted this. I couldn't recall the article that you me=
ntioned, and when I checked my CNLs I realized I hadn't received issue 152.=
There had been an address change mix up, but a quick call to ANS resolved =
the situation and my missing issue is being mailed. I'm not sure who I talk=
ed to at ANS, but they were very helpful. They weren't sure, however, if is=
sue 153 was out yet. Has anyone here gotten theirs? I just picked up a Utre=
cht =C2 Lion Daalder, so I'm eager to have the article.=C2=20
For those who like pictures, here is the coin. It's by far the nice=
st of the small group that I have.
Bruce
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 8:30 AM, Ray Williams <njraywms@optonline.n=
et> wrote:
=C2=20=20
Good Morning Guys and Gals,
=C2 =C2 =C2 Yesterday, with the freezing weather outside, I sett=
led into my recliner with a large cup of coffee and CNL 152.=C2 I reread J=
ohn Kleeberg's article, which comprised almost the entire issue.=C2 His to=
pic was about the circulation of Lion Dollars in British North America and =
he comes up with well researched new information - conclusions that I would=
have never thought possible.=C2 Now...=C2 of what interest is this to th=
ose that collect Connecticut Coppers (or anything else)?=C2 Many of us hav=
e blinders on and only dwell withing the narrow focus of a specialty.=C2 I=
was like that with NJ Coppers for a decade or more.=C2 Any catalog that d=
idn't have significant NJ Coppers was delegated to be given away at a local=
club.=C2=20=20
=C2 =C2 =C2 As I "matured" in the hobby, my interests spread out=
to learning more about the other state coppers, and then the MA & MD Silve=
r, and then the Washington-related items, and then the "foreign" coins that=
composed the bulk of our colonial monies.=C2 Having a better knowledge of=
the entire colonial numismatic history and coinage has made the hobby much=
more fun and rewarding.=C2 It even helps me have a better appreciation fo=
r the NJ Coppers in which I specialize.=C2 I could go on about how much fu=
n it is to read about the Spanish American 8 Real coin and that it was real=
ly a lot of money to the common man back then, another that was from a ship=
wreck off the coast of Australia, a French Ecu that might have been in the =
pocket of a French soldier fighting side by side with our Minutemen.=C2 Th=
e couple pieces of MA Silver and MD silver have fascinating stories about w=
hy they exist, their purpose, the men that made them, the economic climate =
that brought them about, etc.=C2 But I won't go on...
=C2 =C2 =C2 I would like to recommend that you check out http://=
numismatics.org/CNL/CNL and go to the bottom of the page.=C2 Click on:
* Kays, T. "When Cross Pistareens Cut Their Way Through the Tobacco Colo=
nies,"=20
I'd suggest printing out the article and reading in your recliner=
, take it on a business trip, leave it on the headboard of your bed.=C2 Se=
e if this article doesn't give you a rewarding view of our colonial time pe=
riod and some of the coins in circulation.
Have a great day!
Ray
PS...=C2 Diane started to discuss getting new living room furnit=
ure and asked my opinion.=C2 I suggested that instead of wasting money on =
couches and love seats, why not just purchase six more recliners.=C2 I fea=
r that I will have no more input as to what furniture will occupy our livin=
g room in the future.=C2 But it really doesn't matter at all as long as my=
recliner is there!
=20=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I was at one of the Ford auctions somewher=
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hobby</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 16px">Just wish I knew =
where=20
Paul bought those coins so I could collect my comission. :) =20
Will <BR><BR><FONT color=3D#333333><I><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 14p=
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uce=20
Smith <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:bhsmith325@gmail.com">bhsmith325@gmail.com</A>><B><BR=
>To:=20
</B>colonial-coins <<A=20
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ps.com</A>><B><BR>Sent:=20
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Numismatics] the hobby<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff"><SPAN> </SPAN>=20
<DIV id=3Dygrp-text>
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<DIV dir=3Dltr>Hi Paul,
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Yours is a nice example as well. The Lion's tail is particularity =
wild=20
looking. Listening to a well presented lecture can be dangerous. The mo=
rning=20
after John Adam's 2010 presentation in Boston I had to go out and buy a=
n=20
Admiral Vernon medal. Ditto John K's. <SPAN>Comitia</SPAN> Americana ta=
lk in=20
2011. Putting something on the cover of a journal can have the same eff=
ect.=20
Read the article, decide that somehow one of those would be a good fit =
for=20
whatever I'm collecting, and then the hunt. Fortunately I haven't heard=
=20
anyone speak on Brasher Doubloons or NE shillings.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Bruce</DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_extra><BR><BR>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Paul Cartmil=
l <SPAN=20
dir=3Dltr><<A href=3D"mailto:cartmill_paul@yahoo.com"=20
target=3D_blank>cartmill_paul@yahoo.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid" class=3Dgmail_quote><=
U></U>
<DIV><SPAN>=C2 </SPAN>=20
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cida Grande,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">
<DIV><SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>Bruce , I picked this up in Baltimore two years ago after listen=
ing=20
to Will talk about the various coins used in the colonies, I know nex=
t to=20
nothing about them , I would like to read more about them </DIV>
<DIV>paul<BR></DIV>
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<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Bruce Smith <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:bhsmith325@gmail.com"=20
target=3D_blank>bhsmith325@gmail.com</A>><BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> colonial-coins <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com"=20
target=3D_blank>colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</A>> <BR><B><SPAN=
=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, January 24, 20=
14=20
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[Colonial Numismatics] the hobby [1 Attachment]<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>
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<DIV><SPAN>=C2 </SPAN>=20
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>Ray,
<DIV><BR clear=3Dnone></DIV>
<DIV>I'm glad you posted this. I couldn't recall the article that y=
ou=20
mentioned, and when I checked my <SPAN>CNLs</SPAN> I realized I had=
n't=20
received issue 152. There had been an address change mix up, but a =
quick=20
call to ANS resolved the situation and my missing issue is being ma=
iled.=20
I'm not sure who I talked to at ANS, but they were very helpful. Th=
ey=20
weren't sure, however, if issue 153 was out yet. Has anyone here go=
tten=20
theirs? I just picked up a Utrecht =C2 Lion <SPAN>Daalder</SPA=
N>, so=20
I'm eager to have the article.=C2 </DIV>
<DIV><BR clear=3Dnone></DIV>
<DIV>For those who like pictures, here is the coin. It's by far the=
=20
nicest of the small group that I have.</DIV>
<DIV><BR clear=3Dnone></DIV>
<DIV>Bruce</DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><BR clear=3Dnone><BR clear=3Dnone>
<DIV>On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 8:30 AM, Ray Williams <SPAN dir=3Dltr>=
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:njraywms@optonline.net" shape=3Drect rel=3Dnofollow=
=20
target=3D_blank>njraywms@optonline.net</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR=20
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<DIV><SPAN>=C2 </SPAN>=20
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>Good Morning Guys and Gals,<BR clear=3Dnone>=C2 =C2&nbs=
p;=C2 =20
Yesterday, with the freezing weather outside, I settled into my=20
recliner with a large cup of coffee and CNL 152.=C2 I rerea=
d John=20
Kleeberg's article, which comprised almost the entire issue.=C2&n=
bsp;=20
His topic was about the circulation of Lion Dollars in British No=
rth=20
America and he comes up with well researched new information -=20
conclusions that I would have never thought possible.=C2 =20
Now...=C2 of what interest is this to those that collect=20
Connecticut Coppers (or anything else)?=C2 Many of us have=
=20
blinders on and only dwell withing the narrow focus of a=20
specialty.=C2 I was like that with NJ Coppers for a decade =
or=20
more.=C2 Any catalog that didn't have significant NJ Copper=
s was=20
delegated to be given away at a local club.=C2 <BR=20
clear=3Dnone>=C2 =C2 =C2 As I "matured" in the ho=
bby, my=20
interests spread out to learning more about the other state coppe=
rs,=20
and then the MA & MD Silver, and then the Washington-related=
=20
items, and then the "foreign" coins that composed the bulk of our=
=20
colonial monies.=C2 Having a better knowledge of the entire=
=20
colonial numismatic history and coinage has made the hobby much m=
ore=20
fun and rewarding.=C2 It even helps me have a better apprec=
iation=20
for the NJ Coppers in which I specialize.=C2 I could go on =
about=20
how much fun it is to read about the Spanish American 8 Real coin=
and=20
that it was really a lot of money to the common man back then, an=
other=20
that was from a shipwreck off the coast of Australia, a French Ec=
u=20
that might have been in the pocket of a French soldier fighting s=
ide=20
by side with our Minutemen.=C2 The couple pieces of MA Silv=
er and=20
MD silver have fascinating stories about why they exist, their=20
purpose, the men that made them, the economic climate that brough=
t=20
them about, etc.=C2 But I won't go on...<BR=20
clear=3Dnone>=C2 =C2 =C2 I would like to recommen=
d that you=20
check out <A href=3D"http://numismatics.org/CNL/CNL" shape=3Drect=
=20
rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank>http://numismatics.org/CNL/CNL</A>=
and go=20
to the bottom of the page.=C2 Click on:<BR clear=3Dnone><BR=
=20
clear=3Dnone></DIV><PRE> * Kays, T. "<A title=3Dtitle href=3D"h=
ttp://numismatics.org/wikiuploads/CNL/Pistareens.pdf" shape=3Drect rel=3Dno=
follow target=3D_blank>When Cross Pistareens Cut Their Way Through the Toba=
cco Colonies</A>,"=20
</PRE><BR clear=3Dnone>I'd suggest printing out the article and reading=20
in your recliner, take it on a business trip, leave it on the=20
headboard of your bed.=C2 See if this article doesn't give =
you a=20
rewarding view of our colonial time period and some of the coins =
in=20
circulation.<BR clear=3Dnone><BR clear=3Dnone>Have a great day!<B=
R=20
clear=3Dnone>Ray<BR clear=3Dnone><BR clear=3Dnone>PS...=C2 =
Diane started=20
to discuss getting new living room furniture and asked my=20
opinion.=C2 I suggested that instead of wasting money on co=
uches=20
and love seats, why not just purchase six more recliners.=C2 =
; I=20
fear that I will have no more input as to what furniture will occ=
upy=20
our living room in the future.=C2 But it really doesn't mat=
ter at=20
all as long as my recliner is there!<BR clear=3Dnone></DIV>
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