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I think it=C2=A0is really how Historians viewed things,(It is all in termin= ology) :)=C2=A0but if you look at this info, I have to say technically GW w= as not the first President of the United States.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Found the fol= lowing on constitutionfacts.com website.=20 "The Articles of Confederation was the first constitution of the United Sta= tes of America and was in effect from 1781-1789.=C2=A0 There were eight ind= ividuals appointed by Congress for a one-year term in office, and each was = referred to as =E2=80=9C President of the United States in Congress Assembl= ed .=E2=80=9D=C2=A0 When John Hanson of Maryland was appointed in 1781, he = was the first to serve the one-year term in office as specified in Article = IX of the Articles of Confederation:=20
The United States in Congress assembled shall have authority=E2=80=A6 to ap= point=20 such other committees and civil officers as may be necessary for managing t= he=20 general affairs of the United States under their direction=E2=80=94 to appo= int one of=20 their members to preside, provided that no person be allowed to serve=20 in the office of president more than one year in any term of three years;=20
George Washington acknowledged the importance of the position in a letter s= tating that:=C2=A0 =E2=80=9CI congratulate your Excellency on your appointm= ent to fill the most important seat in the United States.=E2=80=9D=C2=A0=20
If we had not had the Articles of Confederation to learn how to create a na= tional government, there is a very good chance that we could not have had t= he present Constitution."=C2=A0=20
I have noticed similar arguments when I was doing my families genealogy and= found out my first cousin,=C2=A07 times removed was the First Treasurer of= the United States. Of course the family of the 2nd Treasurer insisted he (= Samuel Meridith)=C2=A0was the first Treasurer since he served under the Con= stitutional Presidents........But regardless, Michael Hillegas is/was recog= nized as the First Treasurer of the United States...=20
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I've seen/heard this discussion several times. =C2=A0I really think that th= ey might more properly be called "Presidents of Congress." since we didn't = really have an established executive branch. To me, the role seems more aki= n to "Speaker of the House" than President. =C2=A0It's worth noting that ev= en the Continental Congress, before Confederation, had Presidents. =C2=A0=20
Kind of reminds me of when our governor went on an overseas trip a few year= s ago and made the Lt. Governor the Governor for a couple of days. Since we= have a tradition of hanging a portrait of each governor in the Capitol, th= e Lt. Governor insisted on having his there too.=20
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---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------= =20 Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Fwd: WHO WAS THE FIRST PRESIDENT OF THE= USA?*=20 From: "rogermoore435@yahoo.com [colonial-coins]" <colonial-coins@yahoogroup= s.com>=20 Date: Tue, August 19, 2014 11:55 am=20 To: "colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>=20 --------------------------------------------------------------------------= =20
> LOL! I don't think too many people actually know this!! Roger=20 >=20 > Sent from my iPhone=20 >=20 >> On Aug 19, 2014, at 11:26 AM, "Paul Cartmill cartmill_paul@yahoo.com [co= lonial-coins]" <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com> wrote:=20 >>=20 >> Roger this is great stuff, but if my son gets kicked out of grade 5 hist= ory lass for being a smarty pants Canuck I know who to=C2=A0=20 >>=20 From: "rogermoore435@yahoo.com [colonial-coins]" <colonial-coins@yahoogroup= s.com>=20 >> To: Colonial coins <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>=20 >> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 3:42:39 PM=20 >> Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Fwd: WHO WAS THE FIRST PRESIDENT OF THE = USA?*=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Thought this was interesting!! Roger=20 >>=20 >>> Subject: WHO WAS THE FIRST PRESIDENT OF THE USA?*=20 >>>=20 >>> Most people know that George Washington was not our first American pres= ident but not the specifics of who was and how it all developed. The inform= ation below spells it out with great detail. Those who already know it are = few believe it or not. I know because I did not know all the detail below.= =20 >>>> WHO WAS THE FIRST PRESIDENT OF THE USA?*=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> I suspect George Washington was your first guess.=20 >>>> After all, who else comes to mind?=20 >>>> But think back to your history books - The United States declared its= =20 >>>> independence in 1776, yet George Washington did not take Office until= =20 >>>> April 30, 1789.=20 >>>> So who was running the country during these initial years of our young= =20 >>>> country? It was the first eight U. S. Presidents. In fact, the first=20 >>>> President of the United States was one John Hanson. I can hear you now= -=20 >>>> John who? John Hanson, was the first President of the United States.=20 >>>> John Hanson, first President of the United States.=20 >>>> Check Google for more detailed information. There was also a U.S. stam= p made in his honor.=20 >>>> The new country was actually formed on March 1, 1781 with the adoption= of The Articles of Confederation. This document was actually proposed on J= une 11, 1776, but not agreed upon by Congress until November 15, 1777. Mary= land refused to sign this document until Virginia and New York ceded their = western lands (Maryland was afraid that these states would gain too much po= wer in the new government from such large amounts of land).=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Once the signing took place in 1781, a President was needed to run the= =20 >>>> country. John Hanson was chosen unanimously by Congress (which include= d George Washington). In fact, all the other potential candidates refused t= o run against him, as he was a major player in the revolution and an extrem= ely influential member of Congress.=20 >>>> As the first President, Hanson had quite the shoes to fill. No one had= ever been President and the role was poorly defined. His actions in office= would set precedent for all future Presidents. He took office just as the = Revolutionary War ended. Almost immediately, the troops demanded to be paid= . As would be expected after any long war, there were no funds to meet the = salaries. As a result, the soldiers threatened to overthrow the new governm= ent and put Washington on the throne as a monarch.=20 >>>> All the members of Congress ran for their lives, leaving Hanson as the= only guy left running the government. He somehow managed to calm the troop= s down and hold the country together. If he had failed, the government woul= d have fallen almost immediately and everyone would have been bowing to Kin= g Washington.=20 >>>> Hanson, as President, ordered all foreign troops off American soil, as= well as the removal of all foreign flags. This was quite the feat, conside= ring the fact that so many European countries had a stake in the United Sta= tes since the days following Columbus.=20 >>>> Hanson established the Great Seal of the United States, which all Pres= idents have since been required to use on all official documents. President= Hanson also established the first Treasury Department, the first Secretary= of War, and the first Foreign Affairs Department.=20 >>>> Lastly, he declared that the fourth Thursday of every November was to = be Thanksgiving Day, which is still true today.=20 >>>> The Articles of Confederation only allowed a President to serve a one = year term during any three year period, so Hanson actually accomplished qui= te a bit in such little time. Seven other presidents were elected after him= :=20 >>>> 1. John Hanson=20 >>>> 2. Elias Boudinot (1782-83),=20 >>>> 3. Thomas Mifflin (1783-84),=20 >>>> 4. Richard Henry Lee (1784-85),=20 >>>> 5. John Hancock (1785-86),=20 >>>> 6. Nathan Gorman (1786-87),=20 >>>> 7. Arthur St. Clair (1787-88), and=20 >>>> 8. Cyrus Griffin (1788-89)=20 >>>> ..all prior to George Washington taking office.=20 >>>>=20 >>>> So what happened? Why don't we hear about the first eight presidents?= =20 >>>> It's quite simple - The Articles of Confederation didn't work well. Th= e=20 >>>> individual states had too much power and nothing could be agreed upon.= A=20 >>>> new doctrine needed to be written - something we know as the Constitut= ion.=20 >>>> And that leads us to the end of our story.=20 >>>> George Washington definitely was not the first President of the United= States. He was the first President of the United States under the Constitu= tion we follow today.=20 >>>> And the first eight Presidents have been forgotten in history.=20 >>>> YOU HAVE TO BE A LOVER OF HISTORY TO APPRECIATE THIS!!=20 >>>> There you are - another lesson in U.S. History, and you may have learn= ed=20 >>>> something new today, I sure did.=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 =20
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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #0000= 00"><DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: bookman ol= d style,new york,times,serif" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: bookman old st= yle,new york,times,serif;">I think it is really how Historians viewed = things,(It is all in terminology) :) but if you look at this info, I h= ave to say technically GW was not the first President of the United States.= </SPAN> <SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: bookman old style,new york,t= imes,serif" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: bookman old style,new york,times= ,serif;"> Found the following on constitutionfacts.com website.</SPAN><BR><= /DIV> <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">"The Articles of Confederation was the fir= st constitution of the United States of America and was in effect from 1781= -1789. There were eight individuals appointed by Congress for a one-y= ear term in office, and each was referred to as <SPAN style=3D"TEXT-DECORAT= ION: underline" data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;">=E2=80=9C<ST= RONG>President of the United States</STRONG> in Congress Assembled</SPAN>.= =E2=80=9D When John Hanson of Maryland was appointed in 1781, he was = the first to serve the one-year term in office as specified in Article IX o= f the Articles of Confederation: <P class=3Dbody align=3Dcenter><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #000080" data-mce-styl= e=3D"color: #000080;"><EM>The United States in Congress assembled shall hav= e authority=E2=80=A6 to appoint<BR></EM><EM>such other committees and civil= officers as may be necessary for managing the <BR>general affairs of the U= nited States under their direction=E2=80=94<STRONG>to appoint one of</STRON= G><BR><STRONG>their members to preside, provided that no person be allowed = to serve</STRONG><BR><SPAN style=3D"TEXT-DECORATION: underline" data-mce-st= yle=3D"text-decoration: underline;"><STRONG>in the office of president</STR= ONG> </SPAN>more than one year in any term of three years;</EM></SPAN></P> <P class=3Dbody>George Washington acknowledged the importance of the positi= on in a letter stating that: <SPAN style=3D"TEXT-DECORATION: underlin= e" data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;">=E2=80=9CI congratulate y= our Excellency on your appointment to fill the most important seat in the U= nited States.=E2=80=9D </SPAN></P> <P class=3Dbody>If we had not had the Articles of Confederation to learn ho= w to create a national government, there is a very good chance that we coul= d not have had the present Constitution." </P> <P class=3Dbody><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: medium; FONT-FAMILY: bookman old = style,new york,times,serif">I have noticed similar arguments when I was doi= ng my families genealogy and found out my first cousin, 7 times remove= d was the First Treasurer of the United States. Of course the family of the= 2nd Treasurer insisted he (Samuel Meridith) was the first Treasurer s= ince he served under the Constitutional Presidents........But regardless, M= ichael Hillegas is/was recognized as the First Treasurer of the United Stat= es...</SPAN></P> <P class=3Dbody><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: medium; FONT-FAMILY: bookman old = style,new york,times,serif">Don</SPAN></P> <P class=3Dbody> </P> <P class=3Dbody> </P> <P class=3Dbody> </P></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <HR id=3Dzwchr>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetic= a,Arial,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000; FONT-STYLE: normal" d= ata-mce-style=3D"color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text= -decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt= ;"><B>From: </B>"colonial-coins" <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com><BR>= <B>To: </B>"colonial-coins" <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com><BR><B>Se= nt: </B>Tuesday, August 19, 2014 12:45:48 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: [Coloni= al Numismatics] Fwd: WHO WAS THE FIRST PRESIDENT OF THE USA?*<BR> <DIV><BR></DIV><SPAN style=3D"DISPLAY: none" data-mce-style=3D"display: non= e;"> </SPAN> <DIV id=3Dygrp-mlmsg style=3D"POSITION: relative" data-mce-style=3D"positio= n: relative;"> <DIV id=3Dygrp-msg style=3D"Z-INDEX: 1" data-mce-style=3D"z-index: 1;"> <DIV id=3Dygrp-text> <P>I've seen/heard this discussion several times. I really think that= they might more properly be called "Presidents of Congress." since we didn= 't really have an established executive branch. To me, the role seems more = akin to "Speaker of the House" than President. It's worth noting that= even the Continental Congress, before Confederation, had Presidents.  = ;</P> <P>Kind of reminds me of when our governor went on an overseas trip a few y= ears ago and made the Lt. Governor the Governor for a couple of days. Since= we have a tradition of hanging a portrait of each governor in the Capitol,= the Lt. Governor insisted on having his there too.</P> <P>Will</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P><BR>---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------= ------<BR>Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Fwd: WHO WAS THE FIRST PRESID= ENT OF THE USA?*<BR>From: "rogermoore435@yahoo.com [colonial-coins]" <co= lonial-coins@yahoogroups.com><BR>Date: Tue, August 19, 2014 11:55 am<BR>= To: "colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>= <BR>-----------------------------------------------------------------------= ---<BR></P> <DIV><BR></DIV> <P>> LOL! I don't think too many people actually know this!! Roger<BR>&g= t;<BR>> Sent from my iPhone<BR>><BR>>> On Aug 19, 2014, at 11:2= 6 AM, "Paul Cartmill cartmill_paul@yahoo.com [colonial-coins]" <colonial= -coins@yahoogroups.com> wrote:<BR>>><BR>>> Roger this is gre= at stuff, but if my son gets kicked out of grade 5 history lass for being a= smarty pants Canuck I know who to <BR>>><BR>From: "rogermoore43= 5@yahoo.com [colonial-coins]" <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com><BR>>= ;> To: Colonial coins <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com><BR>>>= Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 3:42:39 PM<BR>>> Subject: [Colonial Nu= mismatics] Fwd: WHO WAS THE FIRST PRESIDENT OF THE USA?*<BR>>><BR>>= ;><BR>>> Thought this was interesting!! Roger<BR>>><BR>>&= gt;> Subject: WHO WAS THE FIRST PRESIDENT OF THE USA?*<BR>>>><B= R>>>> Most people know that George Washington was not our first Am= erican president but not the specifics of who was and how it all developed.= The information below spells it out with great detail. Those who already k= now it are few believe it or not. I know because I did not know all the det= ail below.<BR>>>>> WHO WAS THE FIRST PRESIDENT OF THE USA?*<BR>= >>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>>> I suspect George W= ashington was your first guess.<BR>>>>> After all, who else com= es to mind?<BR>>>>> But think back to your history books - The = United States declared its<BR>>>>> independence in 1776, yet Ge= orge Washington did not take Office until<BR>>>>> April 30, 178= 9.<BR>>>>> So who was running the country during these initial = years of our young<BR>>>>> country? It was the first eight U. S= . Presidents. In fact, the first<BR>>>>> President of the Unite= d States was one John Hanson. I can hear you now -<BR>>>>> John= who? John Hanson, was the first President of the United States.<BR>>>= ;>> John Hanson, first President of the United States.<BR>>>>= ;> Check Google for more detailed information. There was also a U.S. sta= mp made in his honor.<BR>>>>> The new country was actually form= ed on March 1, 1781 with the adoption of The Articles of Confederation. Thi= s document was actually proposed on June 11, 1776, but not agreed upon by C= ongress until November 15, 1777. Maryland refused to sign this document unt= il Virginia and New York ceded their western lands (Maryland was afraid tha= t these states would gain too much power in the new government from such la= rge amounts of land).<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> Once the sign= ing took place in 1781, a President was needed to run the<BR>>>>&g= t; country. John Hanson was chosen unanimously by Congress (which included = George Washington). In fact, all the other potential candidates refused to = run against him, as he was a major player in the revolution and an extremel= y influential member of Congress.<BR>>>>> As the first Presiden= t, Hanson had quite the shoes to fill. No one had ever been President and t= he role was poorly defined. His actions in office would set precedent for a= ll future Presidents. He took office just as the Revolutionary War ended. A= lmost immediately, the troops demanded to be paid. As would be expected aft= er any long war, there were no funds to meet the salaries. As a result, the= soldiers threatened to overthrow the new government and put Washington on = the throne as a monarch.<BR>>>>> All the members of Congress ra= n for their lives, leaving Hanson as the only guy left running the governme= nt. He somehow managed to calm the troops down and hold the country togethe= r. If he had failed, the government would have fallen almost immediately an= d everyone would have been bowing to King Washington.<BR>>>>> H= anson, as President, ordered all foreign troops off American soil, as well = as the removal of all foreign flags. This was quite the feat, considering t= he fact that so many European countries had a stake in the United States si= nce the days following Columbus.<BR>>>>> Hanson established the= Great Seal of the United States, which all Presidents have since been requ= ired to use on all official documents. President Hanson also established th= e first Treasury Department, the first Secretary of War, and the first Fore= ign Affairs Department.<BR>>>>> Lastly, he declared that the fo= urth Thursday of every November was to be Thanksgiving Day, which is still = true today.<BR>>>>> The Articles of Confederation only allowed = a President to serve a one year term during any three year period, so Hanso= n actually accomplished quite a bit in such little time. Seven other presid= ents were elected after him:<BR>>>>> 1. John Hanson<BR>>>= >> 2. Elias Boudinot (1782-83),<BR>>>>> 3. Thomas Mifflin= (1783-84),<BR>>>>> 4. Richard Henry Lee (1784-85),<BR>>>= >> 5. John Hancock (1785-86),<BR>>>>> 6. Nathan Gorman (1= 786-87),<BR>>>>> 7. Arthur St. Clair (1787-88), and<BR>>>= >> 8. Cyrus Griffin (1788-89)<BR>>>>> ..all prior to Geor= ge Washington taking office.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> So wha= t happened? Why don't we hear about the first eight presidents?<BR>>>= >> It's quite simple - The Articles of Confederation didn't work well= . The<BR>>>>> individual states had too much power and nothing = could be agreed upon. A<BR>>>>> new doctrine needed to be writt= en - something we know as the Constitution.<BR>>>>> And that le= ads us to the end of our story.<BR>>>>> George Washington defin= itely was not the first President of the United States. He was the first Pr= esident of the United States under the Constitution we follow today.<BR>>= ;>>> And the first eight Presidents have been forgotten in history= .<BR>>>>> YOU HAVE TO BE A LOVER OF HISTORY TO APPRECIATE THIS!= !<BR>>>>> There you are - another lesson in U.S. History, and y= ou may have learned<BR>>>>> something new today, I sure did.<BR= >>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>></P></= DIV> <DIV style=3D"HEIGHT: 0px; COLOR: #fff" data-mce-style=3D"height: 0px; colo= r: #fff;"></DIV></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV></div></body></html> ------=_Part_461288_1101212381.1408469443695--
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