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Agree that its terminology, but the "president" was a member of Congress, not head of a completely separate branch of government. �To me, that seems like a whole different role. �Will
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From: "DonH slospokes2@comcast.net [colonial-coins]" <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>
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> I think it�is really how Historians viewed things,(It is all in terminology) :)�but if you look at this info, I have to say technically GW was not the first President of the United States.� � Found the following on constitutionfacts.com website.
> "The Articles of Confederation was the first constitution of the United States of America and was in effect from 1781-1789.� There were eight individuals appointed by Congress for a one-year term in office, and each was referred to as “ President of the United States in Congress
Assembled .”� When John Hanson of Maryland was appointed in 1781, he was the first to serve the one-year term in office as specified in Article IX of the Articles of Confederation:
>
> The United States in Congress assembled shall have authority… to appoint
> such other committees and civil officers as may be necessary for managing the
> general affairs of the United States under their direction— to appoint one of
> their members to preside, provided that no person be allowed to serve
> in the office of president more than one year in any term of three years;
>
> George Washington acknowledged the importance of the position in a letter stating that:� “I congratulate your Excellency on your appointment to fill the most important seat in the United States.”�
>
> If we had not had the Articles of Confederation to learn how to create a national government, there is a very good chance that we could not have had the present Constitution."�
>
> I have noticed similar arguments when I was doing my families genealogy and found out my first cousin,�7 times removed was the First Treasurer of the United States. Of course the family of the 2nd Treasurer insisted he (Samuel Meridith)�was the first Treasurer since he served under
the Constitutional Presidents........But regardless, Michael Hillegas is/was recognized as the First Treasurer of the United States...
>
> Don
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> I've seen/heard this discussion several times. �I really think that they might more properly be called "Presidents of Congress." since we didn't really have an established executive branch. To me, the role seems more akin to "Speaker of the House" than President.
�It's worth noting that even the Continental Congress, before Confederation, had Presidents. �
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> Kind of reminds me of when our governor went on an overseas trip a few years ago and made the Lt. Governor the Governor for a couple of days. Since we have a tradition of hanging a portrait of each governor in the Capitol, the Lt. Governor insisted on having his there too.
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> Will
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From: "rogermoore435@yahoo.com [colonial-coins]" <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Tue, August 19, 2014 11:55 am
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>> LOL! I don't think too many people actually know this!! Roger
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Aug 19, 2014, at 11:26 AM, "Paul Cartmill cartmill_paul@yahoo.com [colonial-coins]" <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Roger this is great stuff, but if my son gets kicked out of grade 5 history lass for being a smarty pants Canuck I know who to�
>>>
>
From: "rogermoore435@yahoo.com [colonial-coins]" <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>
>>> To: Colonial coins <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 3:42:39 PM
>>> Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Fwd: WHO WAS THE FIRST PRESIDENT OF THE USA?*
>>>
>>>
>>> Thought this was interesting!! Roger
>>>
>>>> Subject: WHO WAS THE FIRST PRESIDENT OF THE USA?*
>>>>
>>>> Most people know that George Washington was not our first American president but not the specifics of who was and how it all developed. The information below spells it out with great detail. Those who already know it are few believe it or not. I know because I did not know all the
detail below.
>>>>> WHO WAS THE FIRST PRESIDENT OF THE USA?*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I suspect George Washington was your first guess.
>>>>> After all, who else comes to mind?
>>>>> But think back to your history books - The United States declared its
>>>>> independence in 1776, yet George Washington did not take Office until
>>>>> April 30, 1789.
>>>>> So who was running the country during these initial years of our young
>>>>> country? It was the first eight U. S. Presidents. In fact, the first
>>>>> President of the United States was one John Hanson. I can hear you now -
>>>>> John who? John Hanson, was the first President of the United States.
>>>>> John Hanson, first President of the United States.
>>>>> Check Google for more detailed information. There was also a U.S. stamp made in his honor.
>>>>> The new country was actually formed on March 1, 1781 with the adoption of The Articles of Confederation. This document was actually proposed on June 11, 1776, but not agreed upon by Congress until November 15, 1777. Maryland refused to sign this document until Virginia and New
York ceded their western lands (Maryland was afraid that these states would gain too much power in the new government from such large amounts of land).
>>>>>
>>>>> Once the signing took place in 1781, a President was needed to run the
>>>>> country. John Hanson was chosen unanimously by Congress (which included George Washington). In fact, all the other potential candidates refused to run against him, as he was a major player in the revolution and an extremely influential member of Congress.
>>>>> As the first President, Hanson had quite the shoes to fill. No one had ever been President and the role was poorly defined. His actions in office would set precedent for all future Presidents. He took office just as the Revolutionary War ended. Almost immediately, the troops
demanded to be paid. As would be expected after any long war, there were no funds to meet the salaries. As a result, the soldiers threatened to overthrow the new government and put Washington on the throne as a monarch.
>>>>> All the members of Congress ran for their lives, leaving Hanson as the only guy left running the government. He somehow managed to calm the troops down and hold the country together. If he had failed, the government would have fallen almost immediately and everyone would have
been bowing to King Washington.
>>>>> Hanson, as President, ordered all foreign troops off American soil, as well as the removal of all foreign flags. This was quite the feat, considering the fact that so many European countries had a stake in the United States since the days following Columbus.
>>>>> Hanson established the Great Seal of the United States, which all Presidents have since been required to use on all official documents. President Hanson also established the first Treasury Department, the first Secretary of War, and the first Foreign Affairs Department.
>>>>> Lastly, he declared that the fourth Thursday of every November was to be Thanksgiving Day, which is still true today.
>>>>> The Articles of Confederation only allowed a President to serve a one year term during any three year period, so Hanson actually accomplished quite a bit in such little time. Seven other presidents were elected after him:
>>>>> 1. John Hanson
>>>>> 2. Elias Boudinot (1782-83),
>>>>> 3. Thomas Mifflin (1783-84),
>>>>> 4. Richard Henry Lee (1784-85),
>>>>> 5. John Hancock (1785-86),
>>>>> 6. Nathan Gorman (1786-87),
>>>>> 7. Arthur St. Clair (1787-88), and
>>>>> 8. Cyrus Griffin (1788-89)
>>>>> ..all prior to George Washington taking office.
>>>>>
>>>>> So what happened? Why don't we hear about the first eight presidents?
>>>>> It's quite simple - The Articles of Confederation didn't work well. The
>>>>> individual states had too much power and nothing could be agreed upon. A
>>>>> new doctrine needed to be written - something we know as the Constitution.
>>>>> And that leads us to the end of our story.
>>>>> George Washington definitely was not the first President of the United States. He was the first President of the United States under the Constitution we follow today.
>>>>> And the first eight Presidents have been forgotten in history.
>>>>> YOU HAVE TO BE A LOVER OF HISTORY TO APPRECIATE THIS!!
>>>>> There you are - another lesson in U.S. History, and you may have learned
>>>>> something new today, I sure did.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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<p>Agree that its terminology, but the "president" was a member of Congress, not head of a completely separate branch of government. To me, that seems like a whole different role. Will</p><p><br />
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From: "DonH slospokes2@comcast.net [colonial-coins]" <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com><br />
Date: Tue, August 19, 2014 1:30 pm<br />
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> I think it is really how Historians viewed things,(It is all in terminology) :) but if you look at this info, I have to say technically GW was not the first President of the United States. Found the following on constitutionfacts.com website.<br />
> "The Articles of Confederation was the first constitution of the United States of America and was in effect from 1781-1789. There were eight individuals appointed by Congress for a one-year term in office, and each was referred to as “ President of the United States in Congress
Assembled .” When John Hanson of Maryland was appointed in 1781, he was the first to serve the one-year term in office as specified in Article IX of the Articles of Confederation:<br />><br />
> The United States in Congress assembled shall have authority… to appoint<br />
> such other committees and civil officers as may be necessary for managing the<br />
> general affairs of the United States under their direction— to appoint one of<br />
> their members to preside, provided that no person be allowed to serve<br />
> in the office of president more than one year in any term of three years;<br />
><br />
> George Washington acknowledged the importance of the position in a letter stating that: “I congratulate your Excellency on your appointment to fill the most important seat in the United States.” <br />
><br />
> If we had not had the Articles of Confederation to learn how to create a national government, there is a very good chance that we could not have had the present Constitution." <br />
><br />
> I have noticed similar arguments when I was doing my families genealogy and found out my first cousin, 7 times removed was the First Treasurer of the United States. Of course the family of the 2nd Treasurer insisted he (Samuel Meridith) was the first Treasurer since he served under
the Constitutional Presidents........But regardless, Michael Hillegas is/was recognized as the First Treasurer of the United States...<br />><br />
> Don<br />
><br />
> <br />
><br />
> <br />
><br />
> <br />
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> To: "colonial-coins" <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com><br />
> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 12:45:48 PM<br />
> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Fwd: WHO WAS THE FIRST PRESIDENT OF THE USA?*<br />
><br />
> <br />
><br />
><br />
> I've seen/heard this discussion several times. I really think that they might more properly be called "Presidents of Congress." since we didn't really have an established executive branch. To me, the role seems more akin to "Speaker of the House" than President.
It's worth noting that even the Continental Congress, before Confederation, had Presidents. <br />><br />
> Kind of reminds me of when our governor went on an overseas trip a few years ago and made the Lt. Governor the Governor for a couple of days. Since we have a tradition of hanging a portrait of each governor in the Capitol, the Lt. Governor insisted on having his there too.<br />
><br />
> Will<br />
><br />
> <br />
><br />
> <br />
><br />
><br />
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From: "rogermoore435@yahoo.com [colonial-coins]" <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com><br />
> Date: Tue, August 19, 2014 11:55 am<br />
> To: "colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com><br />
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>> LOL! I don't think too many people actually know this!! Roger<br />
>><br />
>> Sent from my iPhone<br />
>><br />
>>> On Aug 19, 2014, at 11:26 AM, "Paul Cartmill cartmill_paul@yahoo.com [colonial-coins]" <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com> wrote:<br />
>>><br />
>>> Roger this is great stuff, but if my son gets kicked out of grade 5 history lass for being a smarty pants Canuck I know who to <br />
>>><br />
><br />
From: "rogermoore435@yahoo.com [colonial-coins]" <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com><br />
>>> To: Colonial coins <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com><br />
>>> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 3:42:39 PM<br />
>>> Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Fwd: WHO WAS THE FIRST PRESIDENT OF THE USA?*<br />
>>><br />
>>><br />
>>> Thought this was interesting!! Roger<br />
>>><br />
>>>> Subject: WHO WAS THE FIRST PRESIDENT OF THE USA?*<br />
>>>><br />
>>>> Most people know that George Washington was not our first American president but not the specifics of who was and how it all developed. The information below spells it out with great detail. Those who already know it are few believe it or not. I know because I did not know all the
detail below.<br />>>>>> WHO WAS THE FIRST PRESIDENT OF THE USA?*<br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>> I suspect George Washington was your first guess.<br />
>>>>> After all, who else comes to mind?<br />
>>>>> But think back to your history books - The United States declared its<br />
>>>>> independence in 1776, yet George Washington did not take Office until<br />
>>>>> April 30, 1789.<br />
>>>>> So who was running the country during these initial years of our young<br />
>>>>> country? It was the first eight U. S. Presidents. In fact, the first<br />
>>>>> President of the United States was one John Hanson. I can hear you now -<br />
>>>>> John who? John Hanson, was the first President of the United States.<br />
>>>>> John Hanson, first President of the United States.<br />
>>>>> Check Google for more detailed information. There was also a U.S. stamp made in his honor.<br />
>>>>> The new country was actually formed on March 1, 1781 with the adoption of The Articles of Confederation. This document was actually proposed on June 11, 1776, but not agreed upon by Congress until November 15, 1777. Maryland refused to sign this document until Virginia and New
York ceded their western lands (Maryland was afraid that these states would gain too much power in the new government from such large amounts of land).<br />>>>>><br />
>>>>> Once the signing took place in 1781, a President was needed to run the<br />
>>>>> country. John Hanson was chosen unanimously by Congress (which included George Washington). In fact, all the other potential candidates refused to run against him, as he was a major player in the revolution and an extremely influential member of Congress.<br />
>>>>> As the first President, Hanson had quite the shoes to fill. No one had ever been President and the role was poorly defined. His actions in office would set precedent for all future Presidents. He took office just as the Revolutionary War ended. Almost immediately, the troops
demanded to be paid. As would be expected after any long war, there were no funds to meet the salaries. As a result, the soldiers threatened to overthrow the new government and put Washington on the throne as a monarch.<br />>>>>> All the members of Congress ran for their lives, leaving Hanson as the only guy left running the government. He somehow managed to calm the troops down and hold the country together. If he had failed, the government would have fallen almost immediately and everyone would have
been bowing to King Washington.<br />>>>>> Hanson, as President, ordered all foreign troops off American soil, as well as the removal of all foreign flags. This was quite the feat, considering the fact that so many European countries had a stake in the United States since the days following Columbus.<br />
>>>>> Hanson established the Great Seal of the United States, which all Presidents have since been required to use on all official documents. President Hanson also established the first Treasury Department, the first Secretary of War, and the first Foreign Affairs Department.<br />
>>>>> Lastly, he declared that the fourth Thursday of every November was to be Thanksgiving Day, which is still true today.<br />
>>>>> The Articles of Confederation only allowed a President to serve a one year term during any three year period, so Hanson actually accomplished quite a bit in such little time. Seven other presidents were elected after him:<br />
>>>>> 1. John Hanson<br />
>>>>> 2. Elias Boudinot (1782-83),<br />
>>>>> 3. Thomas Mifflin (1783-84),<br />
>>>>> 4. Richard Henry Lee (1784-85),<br />
>>>>> 5. John Hancock (1785-86),<br />
>>>>> 6. Nathan Gorman (1786-87),<br />
>>>>> 7. Arthur St. Clair (1787-88), and<br />
>>>>> 8. Cyrus Griffin (1788-89)<br />
>>>>> ..all prior to George Washington taking office.<br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>> So what happened? Why don't we hear about the first eight presidents?<br />
>>>>> It's quite simple - The Articles of Confederation didn't work well. The<br />
>>>>> individual states had too much power and nothing could be agreed upon. A<br />
>>>>> new doctrine needed to be written - something we know as the Constitution.<br />
>>>>> And that leads us to the end of our story.<br />
>>>>> George Washington definitely was not the first President of the United States. He was the first President of the United States under the Constitution we follow today.<br />
>>>>> And the first eight Presidents have been forgotten in history.<br />
>>>>> YOU HAVE TO BE A LOVER OF HISTORY TO APPRECIATE THIS!!<br />
>>>>> There you are - another lesson in U.S. History, and you may have learned<br />
>>>>> something new today, I sure did.<br />
>>>><br />
>>><br />
>>><br />
>>><br />
>>><br />
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