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Hi Ray and Leo,
I do have a few Lion Dollars. Also, I keep my eyes open for one of the
swimming lion varieties. I believe you shared photos here of one that you
have here, Ray. What I was wondering, but didn't write clearly, was if some
of the imitation lion Dollars from German and Italian states made it here
along with the Netherlands issues. There were some examples in a recent
Stack's sale. I thought they were neat coins, and in some ways the
situation reminds me of Leo's question. If the imitations didn't actually
circulate here, I might want one, but I'd still be in a search for genuine
coin that did. Is that in line with what you were asking, Leo?
Bruce
On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 8:36 PM, Ray Williams njraywms@optonline.net
[colonial-coins] <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Bruce!
> Absolutely Lion Dollars circulated here. NY actually printed paper
> money denominated in Lion Dollars in 1709. There are references to them
> being in circulation in several colonies and i think that they were so
> common that someone in Boston was counterfeiting them, but I can't rememb=
er
> where I heard that. So you should have a Lion Dollar ion your collection
> sitting right next to your 8R type coin. You can read more about the Lio=
n
> Dollar at the Notre Dame site:
> http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColCoinIntros/Lion-Dollar.intro.html
> Lots of good info at that site courtesy of Lou Jordan.
> Ray
>
>
> On 2/14/2015 1:31 PM, Bruce Smith bhsmith325@gmail.com [colonial-coins]
> wrote:
>
> Hi Leo,
>
> I'd agree with Ray. The Spanish coins many of us include in our
> collections were from colonial mints. Articles such as Oliver's on Islami=
c
> coins that circulated here expand my understanding of colonial is. I'd li=
ke
> to add a Lion Dollar that was copied in another European state to my
> collection some time. Sort of the same deal, I'd think. Are any of them
> known to have circulated here along with the real Netherlands coins?
>
> Bruce
>
> On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Ray Williams njraywms@optonline.net
> [colonial-coins] <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi Leo,
>> I also collect "foreign" coins that circulated in our British
>> American colonies. I would guess that if not too expensive, purchase th=
e
>> coin minted in a possession of the country you want, and make it due unt=
il
>> a coin from the actual country becomes available (affordable). If it ne=
ver
>> becomes available, then you're covered by having one from its possession=
's
>> mint.
>> I hope you all remembered it's Valentine's Day. If you forgot... i=
t
>> may not be as easy to purchase coins in the future.
>> Ray
>>
>>
>> On 2/14/2015 12:08 PM, Leo Shane leo_j_shane@hotmail.com
>> [colonial-coins] wrote:
>>
>> I'd like to hear opinions from fellow collectors on the following
>> decision that I have to make. As you know, many coins from Europe and
>> other continents circulated in the Colonies. I am looking to acquire a
>> coin representing a certain country and denomination. I have found a co=
in
>> that was issued by that country but in an occupied land. Does that qual=
ify
>> as a coin of the country I'm looking for? I have my own opinion and kno=
w
>> that we can define our collection any way we want. I was just curious a=
s
>> to what others would say.
>>
>> Stay warm this cold weekend (in the Northeast) and Thanks
>>
>> Leo
>>
>>
>>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Ray and Leo,<div><br></div><div>I do have a few Lion Do=
llars. Also, I keep my eyes open for one of the swimming lion varieties. I =
believe you shared photos here of one that you have here, Ray. What I was w=
ondering, but didn't write clearly, was if some of the imitation lion D=
ollars from German and Italian states made it here along with the Netherlan=
ds issues. There were some examples in a recent Stack's sale.=C2=A0 I t=
hought they were neat coins, and in some ways the situation reminds me of L=
eo's question. If the imitations didn't actually circulate here, I =
might want one, but I'd still be in a search for genuine coin that did.=
Is that in line with what you were asking, Leo?</div><div><br></div><div>B=
ruce</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">O=
n Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 8:36 PM, Ray Williams <a href=3D"mailto:njraywms@opt=
online.net">njraywms@optonline.net</a> [colonial-coins] <span dir=3D"ltr">&=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_blank">colo=
nial-coins@yahoogroups.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex">
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Hi Bruce!<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Absolutely Lion Dollars circulated here.=C2=A0 NY ac=
tually printed
paper money denominated in Lion Dollars in 1709.=C2=A0 There are
references to them being in circulation in several colonies and i
think that they were so common that someone in Boston was
counterfeiting them, but I can't remember where I heard that.=C2=A0=
So
you should have a Lion Dollar ion your collection sitting right next
to your 8R type coin.=C2=A0 You can read more about the Lion Dollar at
the Notre Dame site:=C2=A0
<a href=3D"http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColCoinIntros/Lion-Dollar.in=
tro.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColCoinIntros/L=
ion-Dollar.intro.html</a>=C2=A0
Lots of good info at that site courtesy of Lou Jordan.<br>
Ray<br>
<br>
<br>
</p><div>On 2/14/2015 1:31 PM, Bruce Smith
<a href=3D"mailto:bhsmith325@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">bhsmith325@=
gmail.com</a> [colonial-coins] wrote:<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Leo,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I'd agree with Ray. The Spanish coins many of us include i=
n
our collections were from colonial mints. Articles such as
Oliver's on Islamic coins that circulated here expand my
understanding of colonial is. I'd like to add a Lion Dollar
that was copied in another European state to my collection
some time. Sort of the same deal, I'd think. Are any of them
known to have circulated here along with the real Netherlands
coins?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Bruce</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Ray
Williams <a href=3D"mailto:njraywms@optonline.net" target=3D"_bla=
nk">njraywms@optonline.net</a>
[colonial-coins] <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:colonial=
-coins@yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_blank">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</a=
>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:1px #ccc s=
olid">
<div style=3D"background-color:#fff">
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<div>
<div>
<p> Hi Leo,<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I also collect "foreign"=
coins that circulated
in our British American colonies.=C2=A0 I would guess
that if not too expensive, purchase the coin
minted in a possession of the country you want,
and make it due until a coin from the actual
country becomes available (affordable).=C2=A0 If it
never becomes available, then you're covered by
having one from its possession's mint.<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I hope you all remembered it's=
Valentine's
Day.=C2=A0 If you forgot...=C2=A0 it may not be as ea=
sy to
purchase coins in the future.<br>
Ray<span><br>
<br>
<br>
</span></p>
<div>On 2/14/2015 12:08 PM, Leo Shane <a href=3D"mailto=
:leo_j_shane@hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank">leo_j_shane@hotmail.com</a>
[colonial-coins] wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">I'd like to hear opinions from
fellow collectors on the following decision that
I have to make.=C2=A0 As you know, many=C2=A0coins =
from
Europe and other continents circulated in the
Colonies.=C2=A0 I am looking to acquire a coin
representing a certain country and
denomination.=C2=A0 I have found a coin that was
issued by that country but in an occupied land.=C2=
=A0
Does that qualify as a coin of the country I'm
looking for?=C2=A0 I have my own opinion and know
that we can define our collection any way we
want.=C2=A0=C2=A0I was just curious as to what othe=
rs
would say.<br>
=C2=A0<br>
Stay warm this cold weekend (in the Northeast)
and Thanks<br>
=C2=A0<br>
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=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Leo<br>
<br>
</div>
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