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Found the catalogue -- it rang a bell because I was at the sale in
Pasadena! Not much in the way of colonials in it, 32 lots with the
highlight being an Unc Mass half cent of a common variety.
In the introduction QDB says "The R.H. Gore, Jr. Collection was begun in
the 1920's and continued for several decades thereafter. Mr. Gore is a
true connoisseur, and over a period of time added many magnificent coins to
his holdings." Unfortunately the sale doesn't say which are his coins and
which are other consigners.
Gore has a biographical sketch at the beginning and the part of interest to
us is that "For my alma mater, the University of Notre Dame, I started a
collection of coins and paper money by design types in 1975. At this time
the collection is fairly complete and needs only a few rarities. This
collection also contains numerous examples of paper money, including
specimens from each of the original states and the Continental Congress.
Also included are several dozen examples of postage notes and fractional
currency notes, and other items of interest including the gold bars
salvaged from the Atlantic Ocean near Fort Pierce. Another area of the
exhibit contains examples of Mexican, Spanish and Central American coins
which circulated as legal tender in America during colonial times, in fact
up to 1857."
Jeff
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 8:34 PM, CMcdon0923@aol.com [colonial-coins] <
colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> There's a copy of the catalog on Ebay France, for anyone who's really
> interested.
>
>
>
>
> ---Original Message-----
> From: CMcdon0923@aol.com [colonial-coins] <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=
>
> To: colonial-coins <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wed, Dec 2, 2015 10:27 pm
> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Robert H. Gore?
>
>
> Bowers and Merena sold this collection in 1990. It may be the same
> individual.....no idea what may have been in the sale though as I don't
> have the catalog.
> Collections of R.H. Gore, Jr. and Dennis Irving Long - Golden State Coin
> Show, Pasadena, California Public Auction Sale January 24 - 26, 1990
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Will Nipper books@bowmanstonepress.com [colonial-coins] <
> colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>
> To: colonial-coins <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wed, Dec 2, 2015 10:11 pm
> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Robert H. Gore?
>
>
> I'm pretty sure that the bulk of his CTs sold at auction. Not at home so =
I
> can't look through catalogs. I often confuse Gore with Hessburg.
>
> Some details at
>
> http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=3Dgr&GRid=3D110023677
>
> Will
>
> *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID*
>
>
> "Ray Williams njraywms@optonline.net [colonial-coins]" <
> colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> Interesting Jeff,
> Maybe just a certain part of his collection went to Note Dame.
> Ray
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 02, 2015 at 08:51 PM, Rosa Americana rosaamltd@gmail.com
> [colonial-coins] wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> There was a Gore collection sold by Bowers and Merena or ANR -- don't hav=
e
> the dates right now, but it may have been the same collector. For some
> reason, I think it may have been, and will see if I can find it, unless
> someone else has their catalogues handy and can take a look. It was the
> name on the sale itself.
>
> Jeff
>
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Ray Williams njraywms@optonline.net
> [colonial-coins] <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm jealous Stu!
>> Someday maybe I can visit Lou Jordan on his home turf at Notre Dame=
!
>> Ray
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 02, 2015 at 08:08 PM, Stuart Hanebuth hanebuths@yahoo.com
>> [colonial-coins] wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> As I recall from a discussion with Louis Jordan over the summer, Mr Gore
>> was a Notre Dame Alumni and a general numismat, some of the coins in the
>> collection were purchased and donated by Mr. Gore along with the endowme=
nt
>> he made to the university. I believe that most of the colonial materia=
l
>> has been acquired using the endowment. As it was described to me the
>> collection is for use by students in a variety of study areas.
>>
>> -Stu
>>
>> On Dec 2, 2015, at 19:37, Ray Williams njraywms@optonline.net
>> [colonial-coins] <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thank you Mike,
>> That obituary told a bit about the man. I wonder what his
>> numismatic pursuits were. Was he a colonial collector?
>> Ray
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 02, 2015 at 07:24 PM, Michael Packard mpackard3@mac.com
>> [colonial-coins] wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ray,
>>
>> Here is one item:
>> http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2002-03-21/news/0203201090_1_notre-dame=
-club-fort-lauderdale-paul
>>
>> More are available if you google him.
>>
>> Mike P
>>
>> On Dec 02, 2015, at 04:33 PM, "Ray Williams njraywms@optonline.net
>> [colonial-coins]" <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Guys,
>> Many of us knew Joe Lasser, who gave a wonderful presentation for
>> us at a C4 Convention in Boston. His collection is the foundation for
>> Colonial Williamsburg. Fellow C4 Member Erik Goldstein is curator of
>> this collection at Colonial Williamsburg.
>> But who is Robert H. Gore, Jr. who endowed the collection at Notre
>> Dame? For those unaware, you can visit the Notre Dame collection at
>> http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ I don't recall any books or articles
>> written by him. How did he come to endowing the collection at Notre
>> Dame? Anyone here knowhim?
>> Ray
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Found the catalogue -- it rang a bell because I was a=
t the sale in Pasadena!=C2=A0 Not much in the way of colonials in it, 32 lo=
ts with the highlight being an Unc Mass half cent of a common variety.</div=
><div><br></div><div>In the introduction QDB says "The R.H. Gore, Jr. =
Collection was begun in the 1920's and continued for several decades th=
ereafter.=C2=A0 Mr. Gore is a true connoisseur, and over a period of time a=
dded many magnificent coins to his holdings."=C2=A0 Unfortunately the =
sale doesn't say which are his coins and which are other consigners.</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Gore has a biographical sketch at the beginning and =
the part of interest to us is that "For my alma mater, the University =
of Notre Dame, I started a collection of coins and paper money by design ty=
pes in 1975.=C2=A0 At this time the collection is fairly complete and needs=
only a few rarities.=C2=A0 This collection also contains numerous examples=
of paper money, including specimens from each of the original states and t=
he Continental Congress.=C2=A0 Also included are several dozen examples of =
postage notes and fractional currency notes, and other items of interest in=
cluding the gold bars salvaged from the Atlantic Ocean near Fort Pierce.=C2=
=A0 Another area of the exhibit contains examples of Mexican, Spanish and C=
entral American coins which circulated as legal tender in America during co=
lonial times, in fact up to 1857."</div><div><br></div><div>Jeff</div>=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec=
2, 2015 at 8:34 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:CMcdon0923@aol.com">CMcdon0923@aol.c=
om</a> [colonial-coins] <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:colonial-co=
ins@yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_blank">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</a>&g=
t;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0=
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<div style=3D"color:black;font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt">From:=
<a href=3D"mailto:CMcdon0923@aol.com" target=3D"_blank">CMcdon0923@aol.com=
</a> [colonial-coins] <<a href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com"=
target=3D"_blank">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</a>><br>
To: colonial-coins <<a href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</a>><br>
Sent: Wed, Dec 2, 2015 10:27 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Robert H. Gore?<br>
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nt-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(17,17,17);background-color:rgb(255,255=
,255)"><span style=3D"font-weight:normal"><font size=3D"3">Bowers and Meren=
a sold this collection in 1990.=C2=A0 It may be the same individual.....no =
idea what may have been in the sale though as I don't have the catalog.=
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:rgb(255,255,255)"><span>Collections of R.H. Gore, Jr. and Dennis Irving Lo=
ng - Golden State Coin Show, Pasadena, California Public Auction Sale Janua=
ry 24 - 26, 1990</span></h1><br>
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Original Message-----<br>
From: Will Nipper <a href=3D"mailto:books@bowmanstonepress.com" target=3D"_=
blank">books@bowmanstonepress.com</a> [colonial-coins] <<a href=3D"mailt=
o:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_blank">colonial-coins@yahoogro=
ups.com</a>><br>
To: colonial-coins <<a href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</a>><br>
Sent: Wed, Dec 2, 2015 10:11 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Robert H. Gore?<br>
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<div>I'm pretty sure that the bulk of his CTs sold at auction. Not at h=
ome so I can't look through catalogs.=C2=A0 I often confuse Gore with H=
essburg. </div>
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<div>Some details at</div>
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</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=3Dgr&GRid=
=3D110023677" target=3D"_blank">http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?pa=
ge=3Dgr&GRid=3D110023677</a></div>
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<div>Will</div>
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</div>
<div><font style=3D"color:#333333"><i>Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE =
DROID</i></font></div>
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"Ray Williams <a href=3D"mailto:njraywms@optonline.net" target=3D"_bla=
nk">njraywms@optonline.net</a> [colonial-coins]" <<a href=3D"mailto=
:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_blank">colonial-coins@yahoogrou=
ps.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>Interesting Jeff,</div>
<div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Maybe just a certain part of his collection w=
ent to Note Dame.</div>
<div>Ray</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Verdana">
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
On Wed, Dec 02, 2015 at 08:51 PM, Rosa Americana <a href=3D"mailto:rosaamlt=
d@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">rosaamltd@gmail.com</a> [colonial-coins] wro=
te:
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
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,136);border-left-width:2px;border-left-style:solid">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div>There was a Gore collection sold by Bowers and Merena or ANR -- don=
9;t have the dates right now, but it may have been the same collector.=C2=
=A0 For some reason, I think it may have been, and will see if I can find i=
t, unless someone else has their catalogues handy and can take a look.=C2=
=A0 It was the name on the sale itself.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Jeff</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Ray Williams <a =
href=3D"mailto:njraywms@optonline.net" target=3D"_blank">njraywms@optonline=
.net</a> [colonial-coins] <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:colonial-=
coins@yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_blank">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</a>=
></span> wrote:<br>
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left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">
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<div>I'm jealous Stu!</div>
<div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Someday maybe I can visit Lou Jordan on his h=
ome turf at Notre Dame!</div>
<div>Ray</div>
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On Wed, Dec 02, 2015 at 08:08 PM, Stuart Hanebuth <a href=3D"mailto:hanebut=
hs@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">hanebuths@yahoo.com</a> [colonial-coins] wr=
ote:
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<div>As I recall from a discussion with Louis Jordan over the summer, Mr Go=
re was a Notre Dame Alumni and a general numismat, some of the coins in the=
collection were purchased and donated by Mr. Gore along with the endowment=
he made to the university. =C2=A0 I believe that most of the colonial mate=
rial has been acquired using the endowment. As it was described to me the c=
ollection is for use by students in a variety of study areas. =C2=A0<br>
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-Stu</div>
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On Dec 2, 2015, at 19:37, Ray Williams <a href=3D"mailto:njraywms@optonline=
.net" target=3D"_blank">njraywms@optonline.net</a> [colonial-coins] <<a =
href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_blank">colonial-c=
oins@yahoogroups.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>Thank you Mike,</div>
<div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 That obituary told a bit about the man.=C2=A0=
I wonder what his numismatic pursuits were.=C2=A0 Was he a colonial collec=
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On Wed, Dec 02, 2015 at 07:24 PM, Michael Packard <a href=3D"mailto:mpackar=
d3@mac.com" target=3D"_blank">mpackard3@mac.com</a> [colonial-coins] wrote:
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<div>Ray,<br>
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Here is one item: <a href=3D"http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2002-03-21/ne=
ws/0203201090_1_notre-dame-club-fort-lauderdale-paul" target=3D"_blank">htt=
p://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2002-03-21/news/0203201090_1_notre-dame-club-=
fort-lauderdale-paul</a><br>
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More are available if you google him.<br>
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Mike P<br>
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On Dec 02, 2015, at 04:33 PM, "Ray Williams <a href=3D"mailto:njraywms=
@optonline.net" target=3D"_blank">njraywms@optonline.net</a> [colonial-coin=
s]" <<a href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_b=
lank">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi Guys,<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Many of us knew Joe Lasser, who gave a wonderful =
presentation for <br>
us at a C4 Convention in Boston.=C2=A0 His
collection is the foundation for <br>
Colonial Williamsburg.=C2=A0 Fellow C4 Member Erik Goldstein is curator of
<br>
this collection at Colonial Williamsburg.=C2=A0<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 But who is Robert H. Gore, Jr. who endowed the co=
llection at Notre <br>
Dame?=C2=A0 For those unaware, you can visit the Notre Dame collection at =
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.=
coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/</a>=C2=A0 I don't recall any books or articles <b=
r>
written by him.=C2=A0 How did he come to endowing the collection at Notre =
<br>
Dame?=C2=A0 Anyone here knowhim?<br>
Ray</div>
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