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Bruce,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I don't think I have a reprint (or original) of Hall's =
notes on 87=20
CT's. =C2=A0But I'd need to look when my library is functional again. =C2=
=A0About=20
20 years ago I purchased a Dickeson, in ratty condition. I had it bound=20
in a functional binding. =C2=A0I think Dickeson would have achieved more=20
acclaim had he done a better job classifying die varieties. =C2=A0He=20
classified NJs by just one side. =C2=A0If I remember, he used the terms=20
obverse and reverse for the opposite sides we refer to them today (going=20
by a feeble memory). =C2=A0But he made the effort to publish this magnifice=
nt=20
work in the late 1850s. =C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I wish Bushnell would have published his research, but =
instead...=20
=C2=A0he lent his manuscript to Crosby to use for his 1875 work. =C2=A0That=
=20
manuscript is lost or buried somewhere. =C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Not being a CT Collector, is it true that Miller just b=
guilton=20
Hall's original works?
Ray
On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 07:55 PM, Bruce Smith bhsmith325@gmail.com=20
[colonial-coins] wrote:
As with the coins, provenance adds interest. I just bought a reprint=20
copy of Hall's notes on 1787 Connecticuts, and it's cool that it=20
formerly belonged to George Perkins. As regards a favorite "not useful,"=20
I was willing to pay to have my Dickenson rebound (using the original=20
boards) and repaired.
Bruce
On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 6:53 PM, Ray Williams njraywms@optonline.net=20
<mailto:njraywms@optonline.net> [colonial-coins]=20
<colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com <mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>=20
> wrote:
=C2=A0
Congratulations!
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 As with the Red Books, it's interesting to see how=
coin=20
descriptions and prices vary from year to year over the decades.
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Thinking about Wayte Raymond, The original Crosby =
I own has his=20
bookplate on the inside front cover.=C2=A0 I imagine he used this book ofte=
n=20
as a reference in his business.=C2=A0 BUT...=C2=A0 When I saw the Ford libr=
ary=20
sale, there was another Crosby having a Wayte Raymond bookplate.=C2=A0 Why=
=20
would he own two Crosbys?=C2=A0 As they had his bookplates pasted in the=20
cover, I assume they were his personal copies and not inventory for=20
sale.=C2=A0 I'm thinking he may have had a personal library at home and=20
another at his office...=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I wonder if there's a good biography online for Ra=
ymond...=C2=A0 I think=20
I'll take a minute to look right now.=C2=A0
Congratulations again!
Ray
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 06:23 PM, James Higby=20
earlyamericancoppers@yahoo.com <mailto:earlyamericancoppers@yahoo.com>=20
[colonial-coins] wrote:
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Thanks to David Sklow I recently completed the run of Wayte Raymond=20
hardcovers.
From: "Rosa Americana rosaamltd@gmail.com=20
<mailto:rosaamltd@gmail.com> [colonial-coins]"=20
<colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com <mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>=20
>
To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=20
<mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Bibliophile?
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Oliver, I think Crosby should win that hands down -- again, not because=20
the book itself isn't useful (it still is, and Eric Newman was right=20
when he called it the cornerstone of all research in colonial American=20
numismatics), but because there are so many reprints available for a=20
fraction of the price of an original that no one actually needs to spend=20
the money (now a grand or so) on an original....yet most of us do.
Maybe a poll on a favorite "not useful" book that doesn't have a reprint=20
available would be interesting too.=C2=A0 Something we own just because it =
is=20
there, even though we may never open it again after our first perusal.=C2=
=A0=20
This might be a book that was supplanted later on -- say the Dickeson=20
Numismatic Manual or the later Wayte Raymond Standard Catalogue....
Jeff
On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 11:37 AM, 'Oliver D. Hoover'=20
oliver.hoover@sympatico.ca <mailto:oliver.hoover@sympatico.ca>=20
[colonial-coins] <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=20
<mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com> > wrote:
=C2=A0
Taking this discussion a little further, it might be interesting to take=20
a poll of favorite "not useful" books (using Jeff's definition) that=20
listmembers have in their research libraries.
Oliver
On Dec 11, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Rosa Americana rosaamltd@gmail.com=20
<mailto:rosaamltd@gmail.com> [colonial-coins] wrote:
Ray, as someone who has built, disposed, built and disposed of a few=20
libraries over the years, I have to say that you are a bibliophile.=C2=A0=20
Yes, you can say that your library is only a research library -- but,=20
truth be told, a research library would be just a couple of shelves of=20
books and a computer tablet to view titles in the public domain without=20
ever having to buy physical copies.=C2=A0 Anything that wasn't useful would=
=20
be tossed or sold.=C2=A0 An original Crosby or Maris is not useful -- as yo=
u=20
said, there are excellent reprints available that will do the job.=C2=A0 Ye=
t=20
I've owned several Marises (Marisii?), a couple of Hall's on 1787=20
Connecticuts and a dozen Crosby's (I just sold two at auction, cutting=20
my hoard down to just three copies...which is three more than are=20
needed, of course).=C2=A0 I
seldom looked at the originals -- if I needed to use the books for=20
research I would use the reprints and not risk damaging the more=20
valuable ones.=C2=A0 But every now and then I would take the original off t=
he=20
shelves, thumb through it, breathe in that wonderful musty smell, and=20
think about who owned that book before me, what they used it for, what=20
coins they had in their hands as they were comparing images, etc.
My response to your question of whether you are a bibiliophile is easy=20
-- ALL of us who collect colonial coins in a serious matter are=20
bibliophiles.=C2=A0 We are collectors.=C2=A0 We want our coins, not in a cr=
ass=20
monetary manner like a miser hoarding his gold, but rather to learn=20
about them and bring the past to life.=C2=A0 Our libraries are the same.=C2=
=A0 We=20
want the reference books -- and the obscure titles, auction cataloguess=20
that are 150 years old and price lists of firms long out of business not=20
because we are hoarding paper,
but because they are there, they have something to teach us and they=20
are tied together with the areas we collect.=C2=A0 I have known NO serious=
=20
collector of coins who didn't also appreciate numismatic books!=C2=A0 All=20
major collectors of the past had impressive libraries -- Garrett, Brand,=20
Norweb especially.=C2=A0 Newman and Ford built libraries that were just as=
=20
impressive as their collections.=C2=A0 At the one Siboni BBQ that I was abl=
e=20
to get to I spent more time drooling over the books on his shelves than=20
I did over the coins on display -- and there were some mighty impressive=20
coins on display!
In fact, I would go even further -- if you DON'T have a decent library,=20
you are simply NOT a serious numismatist.=C2=A0 You could be a casual=20
collector or, worse, an investor.=C2=A0 But if you don't have more books th=
an=20
shelves available, then you are doing something wrong!=C2=A0 So when Diane=
=20
tells you that you don't need any more books, tell her
that if you want to be considered serious, you really do....and hey,=20
they haven't been that bad of an investment over the years either!
Jeff
On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 9:04 AM, James=20
Higby=C2=A0earlyamericancoppers@yahoo.com=20
<mailto:earlyamericancoppers@yahoo.com>=20
=C2=A0[colonial-coins]=C2=A0<colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=20
<mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com> >=C2=A0wrote:
=C2=A0
The etymology of the word says it all:=C2=A0 biblio =3D book; phile =3D lov=
er.=C2=A0=20
Put "em together and go look in the mirror!
From:=C2=A0"Ray Williams=C2=A0njraywms@optonline.net=20
<mailto:njraywms@optonline.net> =C2=A0[colonial-coins]"=20
<colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com <mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>=20
>
To:=C2=A0"colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=20
<mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com> =C2=A0colonial-coins@yahoogroups.co=
m=20
<mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com> "=20
<colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com <mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>=20
>=C2=A0
Sent:=C2=A0Friday, December 11, 2015 7:59 AM
Subject:=C2=A0[Colonial Numismatics] Bibliophile?
=C2=A0
Hi Guys,
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 After perusing the Kolbe Fanning catalog I receive=
d yesterday, I=C2=A0
paused to think about my library.=C2=A0 Am I a bibliophile?=C2=A0 What is a=
=C2=A0
bibliophile?=C2=A0 Both questions I have no answer for.=C2=A0 I consider my=
=C2=A0
library a working reference library.=C2=A0 Diane constantly tells me that I=
=C2=A0
don't need any more books - that I can't possibly read everything I=20
have=C2=A0
in my lifetime.=C2=A0 I remind her it is a reference library and the
material=C2=A0
is available when I need to read it.
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 That being said, I have beautiful Quarterman repri=
nts of Crosby=20
and=C2=A0
Maris, and a number of reprints of rare books.=C2=A0 These are perfect for=
=C2=A0
research and I can mark them up with notes in the margins and not worry=C2=
=A0
about the book's value.=C2=A0 I don't need to spend hundreds or thousands=20
for=C2=A0
an original copy.=C2=A0 There are some books that don't have reprints such=
=20
as=C2=A0
Dickeson, but may be available online.=C2=A0 The Newman Numismatic Portal i=
s=C2=A0
digitizing many numismatic works, that will be available for everyone.=C2=
=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 But, I do own an original Crosby and an original M=
aris, and some=C2=A0
other original works too.=C2=A0 There is something about holding a nicely=
=C2=A0
bound original book from the 1800's...=C2=A0 The same book that Wayte=20
Raymond=C2=A0
used in his office or home.=C2=A0 The same Maris book that Quarterman used=
=20
to=C2=A0
make its reprints...=C2=A0 There is a certain sentimentality that colonial=
=C2=A0
collectors have - that's why we attempt to keep pedigree information=C2=A0
intact for our coins.=C2=A0 Knowing who possessed the coins before us adds=
=20
to=C2=A0
the romance of owning them.=C2=A0 Keeping this information intact for the=
=C2=A0
future owners is a task of love.=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 The same is true for me with some books.=C2=A0 Hav=
ing an original of a=C2=A0
classic reference is a
thrill.=C2=A0 I have friends that collect books for as=C2=A0
collectibles.=C2=A0 And then when the time comes, they sell/auction them to=
=C2=A0
other book collectors.=C2=A0 When the time comes to part with my library, i=
t=C2=A0
will have two markets - those that collect books and those that need=C2=A0
working references for their coin collections.=C2=A0 But some snowy evening=
=C2=A0
this Winter, you can find me in my recliner, with a fresh pot of coffee=C2=
=A0
and my 1875 Crosby in-hand.=C2=A0 Just another of many ways I enjoy our=C2=
=A0
hobby.
Have fun today!
Ray
=C2=A0
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<div style=3D"font-family:Verdana">Bruce,</div><div style=3D"font-family:Ve=
rdana"> I don't think I have a reprint (or original) of =
Hall's notes on 87 CT's. But I'd need to look when my library is func=
tional again. About 20 years ago I purchased a Dickeson, in ratty con=
dition. I had it bound in a functional binding. I think Dickeson woul=
d have achieved more acclaim had he done a better job classifying die varie=
ties. He classified NJs by just one side. If I remember, he use=
d the terms obverse and reverse for the opposite sides we refer to them tod=
ay (going by a feeble memory). But he made the effort to publish this=
magnificent work in the late 1850s. </div><div style=3D"font-family:=
Verdana"> I wish Bushnell would have published his resea=
rch, but instead... he lent his manuscript to Crosby to use for his 1=
875 work. That manuscript is lost or buried somewhere. </div><d=
iv style=3D"font-family:Verdana"> Not being a CT Collect=
or, is it true that Miller just bguilton Hall's original works?</div><div s=
tyle=3D"font-family:Verdana">Ray</div><div style=3D"font-family:Verdana"><b=
r></div><div style=3D"font-family:Verdana"><br><br><br>On Fri, Dec 11, 2015=
at 07:55 PM, Bruce Smith bhsmith325@gmail.com [colonial-coins] wrote:<br><=
br><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(136, 136, 136); margin: =
0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex">
<br><br>
<div dir=3D"ltr">As with the coins, provenance adds interest. I just bought=
a reprint copy of Hall's notes on 1787 Connecticuts, and it's cool that it=
formerly belonged to George Perkins. As regards a favorite "not useful," I=
was willing to pay to have my Dickenson rebound (using the original boards=
) and repaired.<div><br></div><div>Bruce</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_ext=
ra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 6:53 PM, Ray Wil=
liams <a href=3D"mailto:njraywms@optonline.net" _djrealurl=3D"mailto:njrayw=
ms@optonline.net">njraywms@optonline.net</a> [colonial-coins] <span dir=3D"=
ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" _djrealurl=3D"ma=
ilto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_blank">colonial-coins@yahoo=
groups.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<u></u>
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<div style=3D"background-color:#fff">
<span> </span>
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<p>Congratulations!</p><div> As with the Red =
Books, it's interesting to see how coin descriptions and prices vary from y=
ear to year over the decades.</div><div> Thinking a=
bout Wayte Raymond, The original Crosby I own has his bookplate on the insi=
de front cover. I imagine he used this book often as a reference in h=
is business. BUT... When I saw the Ford library sale, there was=
another Crosby having a Wayte Raymond bookplate. Why would he own tw=
o Crosbys? As they had his bookplates pasted in the cover, I assume t=
hey were his personal copies and not inventory for sale. I'm thinking=
he may have had a personal library at home and another at his office...&nb=
sp; </div><div> I wonder if there's a good biograph=
y online for Raymond... I think I'll take a minute to look right now.=
</div><div>Congratulations again!</div><div>Ray</div><div><div class=
=3D"h5"><div style=3D"font-family:Verdana"><div> </div><div> </di=
v><div> </div>On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 06:23 PM, James Higby <a href=3D=
"mailto:earlyamericancoppers@yahoo.com" _djrealurl=3D"mailto:earlyamericanc=
oppers@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">earlyamericancoppers@yahoo.com</a> [col=
onial-coins] wrote:<div> </div><div> </div><blockquote style=3D"m=
argin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left-color:rgb(136,136,136);border-left-widt=
h:2px;border-left-style:solid">
<br><br>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,Helvetica Ne=
ue Light,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:=
16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><div><span>Thanks to David Sklow I =
recently completed the run of Wayte Raymond hardcovers.</span></div><br> <=
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2"> </font><hr size=3D"1"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">From:</span>=
</b> "Rosa Americana <a href=3D"mailto:rosaamltd@gmail.com" _djrealurl=3D"m=
ailto:rosaamltd@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">rosaamltd@gmail.com</a> [colon=
ial-coins]" <<a href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" _djrealur=
l=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_blank">colonial-coin=
s@yahoogroups.com</a>><br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To:</span=
></b> <a href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" _djrealurl=3D"mailt=
o:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_blank">colonial-coins@yahoogro=
ups.com</a> <br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, December 11, =
2015 1:46 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re=
: [Colonial Numismatics] Bibliophile?<br> </div> <div><br><div><div>
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<div> </div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Oliver, I think Crosby should =
win that hands down -- again, not because the book itself isn't useful (it =
still is, and Eric Newman was right when he called it the cornerstone of al=
l research in colonial American numismatics), but because there are so many=
reprints available for a fraction of the price of an original that no one =
actually needs to spend the money (now a grand or so) on an original....yet=
most of us do.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Maybe a poll on a f=
avorite "not useful" book that doesn't have a reprint available would be in=
teresting too. Something we own just because it is there, even though=
we may never open it again after our first perusal. This might be a =
book that was supplanted later on -- say the Dickeson Numismatic Manual or =
the later Wayte Raymond Standard Catalogue....</div><div><br clear=3D"none"=
></div><div>Jeff</div></div><div><br><br></div><div><div><br clear=3D"none"=
><div>On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 11:37 AM, 'Oliver D. Hoover' <a href=3D"mailt=
o:oliver.hoover@sympatico.ca" _djrealurl=3D"mailto:oliver.hoover@sympatico.=
ca" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">oliver.hoover@sympati=
co.ca</a> [colonial-coins] <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:colonial=
-coins@yahoogroups.com" _djrealurl=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=
" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">colonial-coins@yahoogro=
ups.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><blockquote style=3D"border=
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<div>Taking this discussion a little further, it might be interesting=
to take a poll of favorite "not useful" books (using Jeff's definition) th=
at listmembers have in their research libraries.</div><div><br clear=3D"non=
e"></div><div>Oliver<div><div><br clear=3D"none"><div><br clear=3D"none"></=
div><div><br clear=3D"none"><div><div>On Dec 11, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Rosa Ame=
ricana <a href=3D"mailto:rosaamltd@gmail.com" _djrealurl=3D"mailto:rosaamlt=
d@gmail.com" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">rosaamltd@gm=
ail.com</a> [colonial-coins] wrote:</div><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite"><span style=3D"text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacin=
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</span><div><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Ray=
, as someone who has built, disposed, built and disposed of a few libraries=
over the years, I have to say that you are a bibliophile. Yes, you c=
an say that your library is only a research library -- but, truth be told, =
a research library would be just a couple of shelves of books and a compute=
r tablet to view titles in the public domain without ever having to buy phy=
sical copies. Anything that wasn't useful would be tossed or sold.&nb=
sp; An original Crosby or Maris is not useful -- as you said, there are exc=
ellent reprints available that will do the job. Yet I've owned severa=
l Marises (Marisii?), a couple of Hall's on 1787 Connecticuts and a dozen C=
rosby's (I just sold two at auction, cutting my hoard down to just three co=
pies...which is three more than are needed, of course). I
seldom looked at the originals -- if I needed to use the books for researc=
h I would use the reprints and not ri
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