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In my colonial collection I have a few pieces that might be considered "abo= ve average" in quality, but most of what I have is "average" or "below aver= age" with perhaps a "scudzy" here and there.=C2=A0 But never mind, I love '= em all.=C2=A0 Holding a battered and worn Connecticut or New Jersey copper = prompts me to take a mental journey centuries back into our country's histo= ry and try to imagine what life was like in those days and who might have h= ad that copper and what he or she might have purchased with it and under wh= at conditions.=C2=A0 I think of the hardships that were endured daily in th= ose times.=C2=A0 I think of the men and women who made this country (Canada= , too!) and the debt that we owe to them.=C2=A0 Ray and many others contrib= ute mightily to our knowledge and enjoyment of this great historical hobby = by writing articles and posting here.=C2=A0 Keep up the good work! James=C2=A0 =20
From: "'Oliver D. Hoover' oliver.hoover@sympatico.ca [colonial-coins]= " <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com> To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=20 Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 9:13 AM Subject: WARNING [was]Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: NJ Article =20=20=20 =C2=A0 I'm going to have to agree with James here. Those remarks (the cru= de political ones, not the ones giving rightful kudos to Ray for his articl= e) are not appropriate or acceptable on this list. If I see this sort of th= ing again I will terminate whoever is responsible. There will be no more wa= rnings about this, just swift, blinding, and cold Canadian justice. Oliver
On Dec 17, 2015, at 9:51 AM, James Higby earlyamericancoppers@yahoo.com [co= lonial-coins] wrote:
You've stated your opinion, so I will state mine:=C2=A0 Partisan politics a= nd the hot button issues being=C2=A0flogged 24/7 by media yakkers of all st= ripes=C2=A0have=C2=A0no place in a discussion group devoted to colonial num= ismatics. James =C2=A0
From:=C2=A0"tcolonial@aol.com=C2=A0[colonial-coins]" <colonial-coins@yahoog= roups.com> To:=C2=A0colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=C2=A0 Sent:=C2=A0Thursday, December 17, 2015 4:51 AM Subject:=C2=A0[Colonial Numismatics] Re: NJ Article
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Great article Ray! Very interesting and informative in = 2 pages. Action packed so to speak.=C2=A0Thanks for the further insight int= o that small but highly important slice of time. This is the kind of stuff = that makes our hobby so much fun and one more example of your quest to enco= urage it. I wish the younger generations would see that and take up this ho= bby.=C2=A0Washington crossing the Delaware was a major event in our history= and I doubt it is presented=C2=A0as that in current teachings. =C2=A0It wo= uld probably hurt too many feelings, unlike the soldiers who had no feeling= s in their feet (in the latter 1770's & even to this day) to help create an= d maintain our great country. It seems we are more interested in the teachi= ng of Pedro crossing the border than Jorge crossing the Delaware and the ce= lebration of Quatro de Julio. At Christmas time I often envision Emanuel Le= utze's famous painting, a very powerful image. It makes me think of the say= ing "put yourself in their shoes" or rags or socks. For those of you wantin= g further "entertainment" google it as I won't paste it here. More very int= eresting reading. Looking forward to sequels Ray, Merry Christmas!!
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<html><head></head><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; f= ont-family:HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helve= tica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div><span></span></= div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450365486088_2617" dir=3D"ltr">In my colonial = collection I have a few pieces that might be considered "above average" in = quality, but most of what I have is "average" or "below average" with perha= ps a "scudzy" here and there. But never mind, I love 'em all. H= olding a battered and worn Connecticut or New Jersey copper prompts me to t= ake a mental journey centuries back into our country's history and try to i= magine what life was like in those days and who might have had that copper = and what he or she might have purchased with it and under what conditions.&= nbsp; I think of the hardships that were endured daily in those times. = ; I think of the men and women who made this country (Canada, too!) and the= debt that we owe to them. Ray and many others contribute mightily to= our knowledge and enjoyment of this great historical hobby by writing arti= cles and posting here. Keep up the good work!</div><div id=3D"yui_3_1= 6_0_1_1450365486088_2622" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_145= 0365486088_2623" dir=3D"ltr">James <br> </div><div class=3D"qtdSeparat= eBR" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450365486088_2502"><br><br></div><div class=3D"yah= oo_quoted" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450365486088_2452" style=3D"display: block;"= > <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450365486088_2451" style=3D"font-family: Helvet= icaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Luci= da Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_145036548= 6088_2450" style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, = Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_= 1_1450365486088_2501" dir=3D"ltr"> <font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450365486088_2= 550" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> <hr size=3D"1" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_145036548= 6088_2549"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> "'Oliver= D. Hoover' oliver.hoover@sympatico.ca [colonial-coins]" <colonial-coins= @yahoogroups.com><br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></= b> colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;= ">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, December 17, 2015 9:13 AM<br> <b><span style= =3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> WARNING [was]Re: [Colonial Numi= smatics] Re: NJ Article<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container" i= d=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450365486088_2449"><br><div id=3D"yiv2129979331"><div id= =3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450365486088_2465"> <span style=3D"display: none;"> </span>
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<div id=3D"yiv2129979331ygrp-text"> =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450365486088_2464">I'm going to have to agre= e with James here. Those remarks (the crude political ones, not the ones gi= ving rightful kudos to Ray for his article) are not appropriate or acceptab= le on this list. If I see this sort of thing again I will terminate whoever= is responsible. There will be no more warnings about this, just swift, bli= nding, and cold Canadian justice.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_145036548608= 8_2704"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450365486088_2603= ">Oliver</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450365486088_2604"><br clear=3D"none= "></div><div class=3D"yiv2129979331yqt6041038452" id=3D"yiv2129979331yqt405= 30"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450365486088_2607"><br clear=3D"none"><div id= =3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450365486088_2606"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450365486088_= 2605">On Dec 17, 2015, at 9:51 AM, James Higby <a href=3D"mailto:earlyameri= cancoppers@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" yma= ilto=3D"mailto:earlyamericancoppers@yahoo.com">earlyamericancoppers@yahoo.c= om</a> [colonial-coins] wrote:</div><br class=3D"yiv2129979331Apple-interch= ange-newline" clear=3D"none"><blockquote id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450365486088_2= 609" type=3D"cite"><span class=3D"yiv2129979331Apple-style-span" style=3D"t= ext-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family:= Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; border-collapse: separate;"></span>= <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450365486088_2608"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D= "none"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450365486088_2610" style=3D'color: rgb(0, 0= , 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue-Light, "Helvetica Neue Light", "Helvetica = Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 16px; back= ground-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);'><div><span></span></div><div id=3D"yiv21= 29979331yui_3_16_0_1_1450362673640_2578">You've stated your opinion, so I w= ill state mine: Partisan politics and the hot button issues being&nbs= p;flogged 24/7 by media yakkers of all stripes have no place in a= discussion group devoted to colonial numismatics.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16= _0_1_1450365486088_2611"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1= 450365486088_2612">James<br clear=3D"none"> </div><div class=3D"yiv212= 9979331qtdSeparateBR" id=3D"yiv2129979331yui_3_16_0_1_1450362673640_2468"><= br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv2129979331yahoo= _quoted" id=3D"yiv2129979331yui_3_16_0_1_1450362673640_2474" style=3D"displ= ay: block;"><div id=3D"yiv2129979331yui_3_16_0_1_1450362673640_2473" style= =3D'font-family: HelveticaNeue-Light, "Helvetica Neue Light", "Helvetica Ne= ue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 16px;'><div = id=3D"yiv2129979331yui_3_16_0_1_1450362673640_2472" style=3D'font-family: H= elveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-ser= if; font-size: 16px;'><div id=3D"yiv2129979331yui_3_16_0_1_1450362673640_24= 71" dir=3D"ltr"><font id=3D"yiv2129979331yui_3_16_0_1_1450362673640_2470" f= ace=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font><hr size=3D"1" id=3D"yiv2129979331yui_3_16_= 0_1_1450362673640_2469"><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">From:</span><= /b><span class=3D"yiv2129979331Apple-converted-space"> </span>"<a href= =3D"mailto:tcolonial@aol.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"r= ect" ymailto=3D"mailto:tcolonial@aol.com">tcolonial@aol.com</a><span class= =3D"yiv2129979331Apple-converted-space"> </span>[colonial-coins]" <= <a href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"= nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">= colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</a>><br clear=3D"none"><b><span style=3D"= font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b><span class=3D"yiv2129979331Apple-convert= ed-space"> </span><a href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" ta= rget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:colonial-= coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</a><span class=3D"yiv= 2129979331Apple-converted-space"> </span><br clear=3D"none"><b><span s= tyle=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b><span class=3D"yiv2129979331App= le-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, December 17, 2015 4:51 AM<br cle= ar=3D"none"><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b><span = class=3D"yiv2129979331Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Colonial Numisma= tics] Re: NJ Article<br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv2129979331y_m= sg_container" id=3D"yiv2129979331yui_3_16_0_1_1450362673640_2496"><br clear= =3D"none"><div id=3D"yiv2129979331"><div id=3D"yiv2129979331yui_3_16_0_1_14= 50362673640_2537"><div id=3D"yiv2129979331ygrp-mlmsg" style=3D"font-family:= Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><div id=3D"yiv21299= 79331ygrp-msg"><div id=3D"yiv2129979331ygrp-text" style=3D"font-family: Geo= rgia;"><div id=3D"yiv2129979331yui_3_16_0_1_1450362673640_2536"><font id=3D= "yiv2129979331yui_3_16_0_1_1450362673640_2535" color=3D"black" face=3D"aria= l" size=3D"2"> Great article Ray! Very interesting and i= nformative in 2 pages. Action packed so to speak. <span id=3D"yiv21299= 79331yui_3_16_0_1_1450362673640_2534" style=3D"font-size: 13.33px;">Thanks = for the further insight into that small but highly important slice of time.= This is the kind of stuff that makes our hobby so much fun and one more ex= ample of your quest to encourage it. I wish the younger generations would s= ee that and take up this hobby. </span>Washington crossing the Delawar= e was a major event in our history and I doubt it is presented as that= in current teachings. It would probably hurt too many feelings, unli= ke the soldiers who had no feelings in their feet (in the latter 1770's &am= p; even to this day) to help create and maintain our great country. It seem= s we are more interested in the teaching of Pedro crossing the border than = Jorge crossing the Delaware and the celebration of Quatro de Julio. At Chri= stmas time I often envision Emanuel Leutze's famous painting, a very powerf= ul image. It makes me think of the saying "put yourself in their shoes" or = rags or socks. For those of you wanting further "entertainment" google it a= s I won't paste it here. More very interesting reading. Looking forward to = sequels Ray, Merry Christmas!!</font></div></div><div style=3D"height: 0px;= color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"></div></div></div></div><br clear=3D"none"><br= clear=3D"none"></div></div></div></div></div><br clear=3D"none"><br clear= =3D"none"><div style=3D"color: white;"></div></div></div></blockquote></div= ><br clear=3D"none"></div></div>
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