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Subject: Cuteness at the O'Donnell Auction
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Hi Guys,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I was sharing this story about the O'Donnell Sale of NJ=
Coppers=20
with a friend and thought I'd share it with my friends here. =C2=A0I drove =
to=20
the auction in NYC with Roger Moore and we sat next to each other while=20
the auction was running...
=C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I came home from that sale and Diane asked if I won any=
lots. =C2=A0I=20
said "yes". =C2=A0She then asked how many, and I said "one". =C2=A0Then she=
looked=20
at me knowing I only got one coin and asked, "was it a Maris Plate Coin"=20
and I said "yes". =C2=A0Being in banking, her next question was "how much".=
=20
=C2=A0I sheepishly replied "$2990". =C2=A0She asked if I had $2990, to whic=
h I=20
replied "no". =C2=A0Then she asked "how much do you have" and I replied=20
"$2000". =C2=A0She quickly asked how I was going to come up with the other=
=20
$1K. =C2=A0I thought for a second and replied that the household budget wou=
ld=20
pay the difference. =C2=A0Keep in mind that Diane controls the household=20
budget... =C2=A0She then asked why the household budget would cover the=20
difference, to which I quickly replied: =C2=A0"Because I'm so cute?". =C2=
=A0It=20
worked!!! =C2=A0The household budget covered the difference! =C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0That only works once. =C2=A0I haven't tried to use cute=
ness again. =C2=A0The=20
Maris 23-R plate coin was used for both obverse and reverse on the=20
plate. =C2=A0I think the 23-R and the 3-C are my two favorite coins. =C2=A0=
I'd be=20
challenged to pick between the two.=C2=A0
Have fun,
Ray=C2=A0
On Sun, Aug 07, 2016 at 03:57 PM, bocastle@bellsouth.net wrote:
Ray, That is Frontenac ? ? example I think. I obtained about 5 or 10=20
catalogs heavy on NJs from Tom Wolf who bought in a c4 bulk lot. When I=20
received them=C2=A0 they were sort of moldy so I removed the pages of=20
interest and got rid of the rest. I think it was mainly the covers that=20
were moldy. Anyhow the catalogs were previously Griffee who used them to=20
notate his opinion of grades and who purchased even who they were then=20
sold to or purchased for. His opinion was very inconsistent concerning=20
the correct grade of the coins ( I think ). He evidently was present for=20
the sale OR informed about the outcome to assist his census work at the=20
time ( my guess ).
=C2=A0I do enjoy the history , pedigree etc of early coppers. I suspect=20
Walter Breen made=C2=A0a comment concerning this 51 =C2=A0coin in his 1955=
=20
unpublished as Boyd had it and the delightful=C2=A0'ford=E2=80=99 coin.
=C2=A0It must have been difficult collecting Jerseys back then where=20
collectors like Boyd/Ford, Garrett, had most of the great=20
coins............=E2=80=A6 then a series of auctions allowed their release =
to=20
the collector world......=E2=80=A6.. many of the nicest/rarest went to Anto=
n,=20
Siboni, Ish, and others of monetary ability like DGP.
=C2=A0The next 5 to 10 years could provide opportunities again. It will be=
=20
fun to watch and possibly participate.
Darwin Palmer, Jr.
Sent from Windows Mail
From:=C2=A0Ray Williams <mailto:njraywms@optonline.net>
Sent:=C2=A0=E2=80=8ESunday=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8EAugust=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E7=E2=
=80=8E, =E2=80=8E2016 =E2=80=8E3=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E01=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8EPM
To:=C2=A0Darwin Palmer <mailto:bocastle@bellsouth.net>
That is a pretty coin! =C2=A0My catalogs are packed away - which Bowers=20
catalog is that? =C2=A0It's clear that Hodder is the cataloger.
Ray=C2=A0
On Sun, Aug 07, 2016 at 12:41 PM, bocastle@bellsouth.net wrote:
Darwin Palmer, Jr.
Sent from Windows Mail
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<div style=3D"font-family:Verdana">Hi Guys,</div><div style=3D"font-family:=
Verdana"> I was sharing this story about the O'Donnell S=
ale of NJ Coppers with a friend and thought I'd share it with my friends he=
re. I drove to the auction in NYC with Roger Moore and we sat next to=
each other while the auction was running...</div><div style=3D"font-family=
:Verdana"> </div><div style=3D"font-family:Verdana"><div style=3D"font=
-family:Verdana"> I came home from that sale and Diane a=
sked if I won any lots. I said "yes". She then asked how many, =
and I said "one". Then she looked at me knowing I only got one coin a=
nd asked, "was it a Maris Plate Coin" and I said "yes". Being in bank=
ing, her next question was "how much". I sheepishly replied "$2990". =
She asked if I had $2990, to which I replied "no". Then she ask=
ed "how much do you have" and I replied "$2000". She quickly asked ho=
w I was going to come up with the other $1K. I thought for a second a=
nd replied that the household budget would pay the difference. Keep i=
n mind that Diane controls the household budget... She then asked why=
the household budget would cover the difference, to which I quickly replie=
d: "Because I'm so cute?". It worked!!! The household bud=
get covered the difference! </div><div style=3D"font-family:Verdana">=
That only works once. I haven't tried to use cute=
ness again. The Maris 23-R plate coin was used for both obverse and r=
everse on the plate. I think the 23-R and the 3-C are my two favorite=
coins. I'd be challenged to pick between the two. </div><div st=
yle=3D"font-family:Verdana">Have fun,</div><div style=3D"font-family:Verdan=
a">Ray <br><br><br>On Sun, Aug 07, 2016 at 03:57 PM, bocastle@bellsout=
h.net wrote:<br><br><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(136, 13=
6, 136); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex">
<div data-externalstyle=3D"false" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family: 'Calibr=
i', 'Segoe UI', 'Meiryo', 'Microsoft YaHei UI', 'Microsoft JhengHei UI', 'M=
algun Gothic', 'sans-serif';font-size:12pt;"><div>Ray, That is Frontenac ? =
? example I think. I obtained about 5 or 10 catalogs heavy on NJs from Tom =
Wolf who bought in a c4 bulk lot. When I received them they were sort=
of moldy so I removed the pages of interest and got rid of the rest. I thi=
nk it was mainly the covers that were moldy. Anyhow the catalogs were previ=
ously Griffee who used them to notate his opinion of grades and who purchas=
ed even who they were then sold to or purchased for. His opinion was very i=
nconsistent concerning the correct grade of the coins ( I think ). He evide=
ntly was present for the sale OR informed about the outcome to assist his c=
ensus work at the time ( my guess ).</div><div> I do enjoy the history=
, pedigree etc of early coppers. I suspect Walter Breen made a commen=
t concerning this 51 coin in his 1955 unpublished as Boyd had it and =
the delightful 'ford=E2=80=99 coin.</div><div> It must have been =
difficult collecting Jerseys back then where collectors like Boyd/Ford, Gar=
rett, had most of the great coins............=E2=80=A6 then a series of auc=
tions allowed their release to the collector world......=E2=80=A6.. many of=
the nicest/rarest went to Anton, Siboni, Ish, and others of monetary abili=
ty like DGP.</div><div> The next 5 to 10 years could provide opportuni=
ties again. It will be fun to watch and possibly participate.<br></div><div=
data-signatureblock=3D"true"><div><br></div><div>Darwin Palmer, Jr.<br>Sen=
t from Windows Mail</div><div><br></div></div><div style=3D"padding-top: 5p=
x; border-top-color: rgb(229, 229, 229); border-top-width: 1px; border-top-=
style: solid;"><div><font face=3D" 'Calibri', 'Segoe UI', 'Meiryo', 'Micros=
oft YaHei UI', 'Microsoft JhengHei UI', 'Malgun Gothic', 'sans-serif'" styl=
e=3D"line-height: 15pt; letter-spacing: 0.02em; font-family: "Calibri&=
quot;, "Segoe UI", "Meiryo", "Microsoft YaHei UI&q=
uot;, "Microsoft JhengHei UI", "Malgun Gothic", "s=
ans-serif"; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:njra=
ywms@optonline.net" _djrealurl=3D"mailto:njraywms@optonline.net" target=3D"=
_parent">Ray Williams</a><br><b>Sent:</b> =E2=80=8ESunday=E2=80=8E, =
=E2=80=8EAugust=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E7=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8E2016 =E2=80=8E3=E2=
=80=8E:=E2=80=8E01=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8EPM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailt=
o:bocastle@bellsouth.net" _djrealurl=3D"mailto:bocastle@bellsouth.net" targ=
et=3D"_parent">Darwin Palmer</a></font></div></div><div><br></div><div dir=
=3D""><div style=3D"font-family: Verdana;">That is a pretty coin! My =
catalogs are packed away - which Bowers catalog is that? It's clear t=
hat Hodder is the cataloger.</div><div style=3D"font-family: Verdana;">Ray&=
nbsp;<br><br><br>On Sun, Aug 07, 2016 at 12:41 PM, bocastle@bellsouth.net w=
rote:<br><br><blockquote style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: =
1ex; border-left-color: rgb(136, 136, 136); border-left-width: 2px; border-=
left-style: solid;">
<div><br></div><div data-signatureblock=3D"true"><div><br></div><div>Darwin=
Palmer, Jr.<br>Sent from Windows Mail</div><div><br></div></div>
</blockquote></div>
</div></div>
</blockquote></div></div>
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