[Colonial Numismatics] Willow/NE Shilling is Phony

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I have not followed the courts' interpretation of the Hobby
protection Act, since there has been virtually none. But the act
does NOT apply to US items only. It clearly covers colonial coins.
It covers any "numismatic item" but excludes any "re-issue or
re-strike of any original numismatric item by the United States or
any foreign government."

Is there a citation for the fugio case? Proving when something was
made or imported is another issue...

Dan

At 1:40 PM -0400 10/24/02, Rosaamltd@aol.com wrote:
>Hi Syd. One of the problems here is that it is NOT illegal to sell
>copies that aren't marked with the "COPY" stamp. First off, the
>seller is purporting these to be of the 19th century or early 20th
>centruy, long before the Hobby Protection Act was passed -- and
>there is no provision that earlier copies need to be marked as such.
>Now, regardless of whether we believe that his pieces are being very
>recently made, there is simply no real way to PROVE that they are
>newly produced. Secondly, the Hobby Protection Act ONLY applies to
>US coins...it does NOT cover colonial issues. Ironically, one of
>the cases that actually went to court over it involved a 1787 Fugio
>copper which did not have the "COPY" stamp -- the decision reached
>was that only official US coinage was subject to the terms of the
>Act -- even though the Fugio's could have been argued as one of the
>first official coinages by the new nation!...
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<div>I have not followed the courts' interpretation of the Hobby
protection Act, since there has been virtually none. But the
act does NOT apply to US items only. It clearly covers colonial
coins. It covers any "numismatic item" but excludes
any "re-issue or re-strike of any original numismatric item by
the United States or any foreign government."</div>
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<div>Is there a citation for the fugio case? Proving when
something was made or imported is another issue... </div>
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<div>Dan</div>
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<div>At 1:40 PM -0400 10/24/02, Rosaamltd@aol.com wrote:</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Arial" size="-1">Hi
Syd. One of the problems here is that it is NOT illegal to sell
copies that aren't marked with the "COPY" stamp.
First off, the seller is purporting these to be of the 19th century
or early 20th centruy, long before the Hobby Protection Act was
passed -- and there is no provision that earlier copies need to be
marked as such. Now, regardless of whether we believe that his
pieces are being very recently made, there is simply no real way to
PROVE that they are newly produced. Secondly, the Hobby
Protection Act ONLY applies to US coins...it does NOT cover colonial
issues. Ironically, one of the cases that actually went to
court over it involved a 1787 Fugio copper which did not have the
"COPY" stamp -- the decision reached was that only official
US coinage was subject to the terms of the Act -- even though the
Fugio's could have been argued as one of the first official coinages
by the new nation!...</font></blockquote>
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