[Colonial Numismatics] Wood-17?

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Marc
I calls 'em as I sees 'em.
Gord
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Marcus M. Mayhugh=20
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Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Wood-17?

---
Gord,
That little ski man is pretty cool. ;-)

Marc

In colonial-coins@y..., "Gord Nichols" <gnichols@c...> wrote:
> Hi Clem
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> That is a Wood 17. Check the bow and ribands(ribbons). They appear=20
as if they are a little man bending to tie his ski boots.????? The=20
point is that on Wood 17(and 18) the little man's back follows the=20
nape of George's neck exactly. There is a narrow (always the same=20
width) channel between the little man's back and the back or nape of=20
George's neck.=20
>=20
> Check a Wood 16 (or the Charlton photo of a Wood 17 which is a Wood=20
16) at the bow and ribbons. The 'little man's' back has 2 huge=20
triangular points in it and doesn't follow the nape of George's neck=20
at all. Also on Wood 16 the 'little man' has a crook in his neck.
>=20
> With respect to your lack of detail on the lower part of the=20
reverse perhaps you have a different die rotation. If you check the=20
scan of the Wood 25 I sent against the Baker speciman in the Taylor=20
catalog you will note that the Baker speciman has no detail on the=20
bottom of the obverse and mine has plenty. Mine is a 90 degrees=20
rotation while I think most previously known specimans were coin=20
turn. Die rotation does matter.
>=20
> Or perhaps yours is just weakly struck. I have noticed what appears=20
to be a wide varience in striking pressure with many of the commoner=20
blacksmiths. Of relatively high grade looking pieces some will appear=20
to be flat with almost zero relief while others have plenty of relief=20
but still no details. Any details on the reverse of a Wood 17 are=20
shallowly cut at best and a specimen must be well struck to show them.
>=20
> I hope this is of some help.
> Gord
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: Clement V. Schettino=20
> To: C4=20
> Cc: Clem at Work=20
> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 7:36 AM
> Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Wood-17?
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> Hey Gord,
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> Well I suppose this image makes my claims look pretty weak, but=20
it's the
> best I could get with a scanner. I had to way over lighten to=20
show the
> detail I did. There is considerably more detail on the bust and a=20
bit more
> on the nose, as well as on the reverse, especially at the spray=20
and below
> that arm. All that "stuff" that looks like dirt, is dirt. I've=20
got some Blue
> Ribbon on it trying to soften it up.
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> In "the brass" the coin appears quite choice, and I'm happy with=20
it anyway.
>=20
> But it is a 17, right?
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> Clem
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<DIV>Marc</DIV>
<DIV>I calls 'em as I sees 'em.</DIV>
<DIV>Gord</DIV>
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Mayhugh</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">To: <A=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics=
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Wood-17?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV><TT>--- Gord, That little ski man is pretty cool.=20
;-) Marc In <A=20
href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@y...">colonial-coins@y...</A>, "Gord Nichol=
s"=20
<<A href=3D"mailto:gnichols@c...">gnichols@c...</A>> wrote: >=
Hi=20
Clem > > That is a Wood 17. Check the bow and ribands(ribbon=
s).=20
They appear as if they are a little man bending to tie his ski boots.=
?????=20
The point is that on Wood 17(and 18) the little man's back follows th=
e=20
 nape of George's neck exactly. There is a narrow (always the same=20
 width) channel between the little man's back and the back or nape of=
=20
 George's neck. > > Check a Wood 16 (or the Charlton pho=
to of=20
a Wood 17 which is a Wood 16) at the bow and ribbons. The 'little man=
's'=20
back has 2 huge triangular points in it and doesn't follow the nape o=
f=20
George's neck at all. Also on Wood 16 the 'little man' has a crook in=
his=20
neck. > > With respect to your lack of detail on the lower p=
art=20
of the reverse perhaps you have a different die rotation. If you chec=
k the=20
 scan of the Wood 25 I sent against the Baker speciman in the Taylor=20
 catalog you will note that the Baker speciman has no detail on the=20
 bottom of the obverse and mine has plenty. Mine is a 90 degrees=20
 rotation while I think most previously known specimans were coin =
turn.=20
Die rotation does matter. > > Or perhaps yours is just weakl=
y=20
struck. I have noticed what appears to be a wide varience in striking=
=20
pressure with many of the commoner blacksmiths. Of relatively high gr=
ade=20
looking pieces some will appear to be flat with almost zero relief wh=
ile=20
others have plenty of relief but still no details. Any details on the=
=20
reverse of a Wood 17 are shallowly cut at best and a specimen must be=
well=20
struck to show them. > > I hope this is of some help. >=
;=20
Gord > ----- Original Message ----- > =
;=20
From: Clement V. Schettino > To: C4 > &nbs=
p;=20
Cc: Clem at Work > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 7:36=
=20
AM > Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Wood-17? >=20
 > > Hey Gord, > > Well=
I=20
suppose this image makes my claims look pretty weak, but it's=20
the > best I could get with a scanner. I had to way ove=
r=20
lighten to show the > detail I did. There is=20
considerably more detail on the bust and a bit more > &nbs=
p; on=20
the nose, as well as on the reverse, especially at the spray and=20
below > that arm. All that "stuff" that looks like dirt=
, is=20
dirt. I've got some Blue > Ribbon on it trying to s=
often=20
it up. > > In "the brass" the coin appears quite=
=20
choice, and I'm happy with it anyway. > > Bu=
t it=20
is a 17, right? > > Clem >=20
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onsor=20
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ADVERTISEMENT > &nbs=
p; =20
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Yahoo! Terms of Service. </TT> <TT>To=20
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