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Return-Path: <njraywms@optonline.net> X-Sender: njraywms@optonline.net X-Apparently-To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 60286 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2003 16:17:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Oct 2003 16:16:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net) (167.206.5.68) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Oct 2003 16:16:59 -0000 Received: from DIANEJ33YVI95P (ool-4354aed4.dyn.optonline.net [67.84.174.212]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with SMTP id <0HMU00CBNYK7T6@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:16:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:21:31 -0400 Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] RE:French Liard in Bucks County PA To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Message-id: <1b6601c39401$8fc66d50$f2fea8c0@DIANEJ33YVI95P> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_dk9icx/PPrriAA5RIpCq0Q)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <27B37EE93C4ED611AB530002B39D72BC03BD37C5@pa62m02.iac.honeywell.com> <002101c393f4$7dff6a20$27922b44@warn1201.mi.comcast.net> From: Ray Williams <njraywms@optonline.net> X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=78843690 X-Yahoo-Profile: njray2
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Leo, If you get a copy of Moreau De St. Mery's American Journey 1793 to 1798, you see where this person makes transactions from VA to NY and in between, and the odd fractions he had to use to figure French $$ to the money of account. Pretty interesting. There were many imigrants coming to America from all countries and all brought what they had in money from their home country, especially the French. Ray W
----- Original Message ----- From: mario To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] RE:French Liard in Bucks County PA
Leo; It sounds like to me, that prior to Washington's encampment on that site, the French also made their way to the Ohio Valley, thus probably passing through that county and furture encampment site. Here in Michigan, in Detroit, we have remains from the French, afterall Detroit was discovered by the French and was the most inland fort on this continent prior to 1750 until 1762,...........the French and the Indians waged war on each other and it wasn't until the 1770's that the Indians and French did coinside with one another to fight the British. You may want to go to your library and pull a census for years prior to 1740,....... I think that you may find what I am trying to explain Mario ----- Original Message ----- From: Shane, Leo J (PA62) To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:39 AM Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] RE:French Liard in Bucks County PA
I was speaking with a friend yesterday who is on an archeological dig at a site in Bucks County PA (just north of Philadelphia). The significance of the site is that during the summer of 1777, Washington and 11,000 troops camped on this farm with Washington appropriating the farmhouse for his headquarters. It was at this site that Washington met Lafayette and Casmir Pulaski for the first time. I believe the farmhouse was constructed about 1740.
During the dig, they have unearthed some British and Irish Halfpence (no surprise) and a 1777 8 reale (again, no surprise). What is surprising is that they have also found a 1658 French Liard. Does anyone have any theories as to why this coin would be here?
If Lafayette or the people with him lost it, does it make sense that they would have had a 1658 coin in their pocket in 1777? Did these coins circulate in this part of the country? Could it have been brought here by a trader or indian that traveled from Canada where (I believe) these coins were used?
All comments are appreciated. Thanks Leo
Leo Shane Honeywell Industrial Measurement & Control Market Development 215 641 3504 215 641 3599 fax Leo.J.Shane@honeywell.com
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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2722.900" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Leo,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> If you get a copy of Moreau De St. Mery's American Journey 1793 to 1798, you see where this person makes transactions from VA to NY and in between, and the odd fractions he had to use to figure French $$ to the money of account. Pretty interesting. There were many imigrants coming to America from all countries and all brought what they had in money from their home country, especially the French.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ray W</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=mariobyrge@comcast.net href="mailto:mariobyrge@comcast.net">mario</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com href="mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:47 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Colonial Numismatics] RE:French Liard in Bucks County PA</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Leo;</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It sounds like to me, that prior to Washington's encampment on that site, the French also made their way to the Ohio Valley, thus probably passing through that county and furture encampment site. Here in Michigan, in Detroit, we have remains from the French, afterall Detroit was discovered by the French and was the most inland fort on this continent prior to 1750 until 1762,...........the French and the Indians waged war on each other and it wasn't until the 1770's that the Indians and French did coinside with one another to fight the British. You may want to go to your library and pull a census for years prior to 1740,.......</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I think that you may find what I am trying to explain</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mario</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=leo.j.shane@honeywell.com href="mailto:leo.j.shane@honeywell.com">Shane, Leo J (PA62)</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com href="mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:39 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Colonial Numismatics] RE:French Liard in Bucks County PA</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><TT>I was speaking with a friend yesterday who is on an archeological dig at a<BR>site in Bucks County PA (just north of Philadelphia). The significance of<BR>the site is that during the summer of 1777, Washington and 11,000 troops<BR>camped on this farm with Washington appropriating the farmhouse for his<BR>headquarters. It was at this site that Washington met Lafayette and Casmir<BR>Pulaski for the first time. I believe the farmhouse was constructed about<BR>1740.<BR><BR>During the dig, they have unearthed some British and Irish Halfpence (no<BR>surprise) and a 1777 8 reale (again, no surprise). What is surprising is<BR>that they have also found a 1658 French Liard. Does anyone have any theories<BR>as to why this coin would be here? <BR><BR>If Lafayette or the people with him lost it, does it make sense that they<BR>would have had a 1658 coin in their pocket in 1777?<BR>Did these coins circulate in this part of the country?<BR>Could it have been brought here by a trader or indian that traveled from<BR>Canada where (I believe) these coins were used?<BR><BR>All comments are appreciated.<BR> Thanks<BR> Leo<BR><BR><BR>Leo Shane<BR>Honeywell Industrial Measurement & Control<BR>Market Development<BR>215 641 3504<BR>215 641 3599 fax<BR>Leo.J.Shane@honeywell.com<BR><BR><BR></TT><BR><BR><TT>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:<BR>colonial-coins-unsubscribe@egroups.com<BR><BR></TT><BR><BR><TT>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the <A href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">Yahoo! Terms of Service</A>.</TT> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><TT>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:<BR>colonial-coins-unsubscribe@egroups.com<BR><BR></TT><BR><BR><TT>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the <A href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">Yahoo! Terms of Service</A>.</TT> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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