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Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] RE:French Liard in Bucks County PA
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Leo,
If you get a copy of Moreau De St. Mery's American Journey 1793 to 1798, you see where this person makes transactions from VA to NY and in between, and the odd fractions he had to use to figure French $$ to the money of account. Pretty interesting. There were many imigrants coming to America from all countries and all brought what they had in money from their home country, especially the French.
Ray W
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Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] RE:French Liard in Bucks County PA
Leo;
It sounds like to me, that prior to Washington's encampment on that site, the French also made their way to the Ohio Valley, thus probably passing through that county and furture encampment site. Here in Michigan, in Detroit, we have remains from the French, afterall Detroit was discovered by the French and was the most inland fort on this continent prior to 1750 until 1762,...........the French and the Indians waged war on each other and it wasn't until the 1770's that the Indians and French did coinside with one another to fight the British. You may want to go to your library and pull a census for years prior to 1740,.......
I think that you may find what I am trying to explain
Mario
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From: Shane, Leo J (PA62)
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Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] RE:French Liard in Bucks County PA
I was speaking with a friend yesterday who is on an archeological dig at a
site in Bucks County PA (just north of Philadelphia). The significance of
the site is that during the summer of 1777, Washington and 11,000 troops
camped on this farm with Washington appropriating the farmhouse for his
headquarters. It was at this site that Washington met Lafayette and Casmir
Pulaski for the first time. I believe the farmhouse was constructed about
1740.
During the dig, they have unearthed some British and Irish Halfpence (no
surprise) and a 1777 8 reale (again, no surprise). What is surprising is
that they have also found a 1658 French Liard. Does anyone have any theories
as to why this coin would be here?
If Lafayette or the people with him lost it, does it make sense that they
would have had a 1658 coin in their pocket in 1777?
Did these coins circulate in this part of the country?
Could it have been brought here by a trader or indian that traveled from
Canada where (I believe) these coins were used?
All comments are appreciated.
Thanks
Leo
Leo Shane
Honeywell Industrial Measurement & Control
Market Development
215 641 3504
215 641 3599 fax
Leo.J.Shane@honeywell.com
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Leo,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> If you get a copy of Moreau De
St. Mery's American Journey 1793 to 1798, you see where this person makes
transactions from VA to NY and in between, and the odd fractions he had to use
to figure French $$ to the money of account. Pretty interesting.
There were many imigrants coming to America from all countries and all brought
what they had in money from their home country, especially the
French.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ray W</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Colonial Numismatics]
RE:French Liard in Bucks County PA</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Leo;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It sounds like to me, that prior to Washington's
encampment on that site, the French also made their way to the Ohio Valley,
thus probably passing through that county and furture encampment site. Here in
Michigan, in Detroit, we have remains from the French, afterall Detroit
was discovered by the French and was the most inland fort on this continent
prior to 1750 until 1762,...........the French and the Indians waged war on
each other and it wasn't until the 1770's that the Indians and French did
coinside with one another to fight the British. You may want to go to your
library and pull a census for years prior to 1740,.......</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I think that you may find what I am trying to
explain</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mario</FONT></DIV>
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RE:French Liard in Bucks County PA</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><TT>I was speaking with a friend yesterday who is on an
archeological dig at a<BR>site in Bucks County PA (just north of
Philadelphia). The significance of<BR>the site is that during the
summer of 1777, Washington and 11,000 troops<BR>camped on this farm with
Washington appropriating the farmhouse for his<BR>headquarters. It was
at this site that Washington met Lafayette and Casmir<BR>Pulaski for the
first time. I believe the farmhouse was constructed
about<BR>1740.<BR><BR>During the dig, they have unearthed some British and
Irish Halfpence (no<BR>surprise) and a 1777 8 reale (again, no
surprise). What is surprising is<BR>that they have also found a 1658
French Liard. Does anyone have any theories<BR>as to why this coin would be
here? <BR><BR>If Lafayette or the people with him lost it, does it
make sense that they<BR>would have had a 1658 coin in their pocket in
1777?<BR>Did these coins circulate in this part of the country?<BR>Could it
have been brought here by a trader or indian that traveled from<BR>Canada
where (I believe) these coins were used?<BR><BR>All comments are
appreciated.<BR>
Thanks<BR>
Leo<BR><BR><BR>Leo Shane<BR>Honeywell Industrial Measurement &
Control<BR>Market Development<BR>215 641 3504<BR>215 641 3599
fax<BR>Leo.J.Shane@honeywell.com<BR><BR><BR></TT><BR><BR><TT>To unsubscribe
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