| Contenu de l'article |
- From jlorenzo@ob.ilww.com Tue Apr 06 05:36:19 2004
Return-Path: <jlorenzo@ob.ilww.com>
X-Sender: jlorenzo@ob.ilww.com
X-Apparently-To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
Received: (qmail 2381 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2004 12:36:15 -0000
Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218)
by m19.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Apr 2004 12:36:14 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.66)
by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Apr 2004 12:36:13 -0000
Received: from [66.218.67.186] by n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Apr 2004 12:36:12 -0000
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 12:36:11 -0000
To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
Message-ID: <c4u87r+gc1q@eGroups.com>
In-Reply-To: <003b01c41b81$5e819be0$27922b44@warn1201.mi.comcast.net>
User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Length: 4198
X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster
X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.66
From: "John Lorenzo" <jlorenzo@ob.ilww.com>
X-Originating-IP: 65.164.33.2
Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: What is this??
X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=74013914
X-Yahoo-Profile: njcopperjohn
Mario - What was the size in mm of the Blacksmith Penny in Taylor????
--- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "mario" <mariobyrge@c...>
wrote:
> RAY;
> YES, SWEDEN TRADED IN BARS. SOME TOWNS IN IRELAND ADAPTED
A "BARTER" IN TOKEN,.......SLAP TOKENS IS ONE OF THE MEANS. HOWEVER,
THIS COIN IS NOT A SLAP TOKEN,..........IT MORE THAN LIKELY WAS
A "LOCAL" TOKEN AND NOT HONORED IN TRADE THROUGHOUT ALL OF IRELAND.
ALSO DURING THIS TIME PERIOD, IRELAND WAS DIVIDED IN POLITICAL
CONTROL. I WOULD GUESS THAT THIS TOKEN OR COIN,..EVER HOW YOU WANT TO
LOOK AT IT, WAS SPARCELY PRODUCED WITHIN A LOCAL AREA,........MOST
LIKELY IN NORTHERN IRELAND,.........
> MARIO
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ray Williams
> To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 8:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: What is this??
>
>
> I was not aware of any copper coinage that traded in commerce by
weight. (Except those hugh Sweedish bars)
> Ray
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mario
> To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 7:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: What is this??
>
>
> I PLACED A BID ON THAT CONTEMPORARY COUNTERFEIT,.......IT
APPEARS THAT THE LEGEND MAYBE "RUNIC" INWHICH IT WOULD BE IRISH. I
REFERENCED THAT COIN AGAINST "IRISH SLAP TOKENS" AND CAME UP WITH
NOTHING IN THAT DESIGN STAGE AT ALL. TO ME, IT APPEARS TO BE
A "BARTER" TOKEN THAT WOULD CARRY THE VALUE BY THE WEIGHT OF THE
COPPER,......OFTEN, THEY WERE ISSUED DURING A DEPRESSION OR ECONOMIC
CALAPSE.
> I AGREE WITH CLEM, THAT PRICE IS A BARGAIN. WHEN I PLACED MY
BID,......I THOUGHT THE VIEWERS WOULD NOT RECOGNIZE WHAT IT IS,..SO I
THOUGHT,..........OH WELL,..............ONLY IF WE CAN PREDICT!
> MARIO
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Byron Weston
> To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 4:04 PM
> Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: What is this??
>
>
> --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "John M. Kleeberg"
> <jmkleeberg@y...> wrote:
> > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, Steve Frank
> > <taxi_steve929@y...> wrote:
> > could it have bought more if noticed by more people?? Or
did the
> two
> > high bidders just go real high and the winner got stuck???
anyone
> > know??? Thanks. Steve
> >
> > I don't know about the price, but it may not be totally
crazy. I
> > know very little about these things, other than that: they
are
> > Irish, they are rare, they circulated in Ireland in the
early
> > nineteenth century, they are penny size (as opposed to most
> > counterfeits, which are halfpenny size), they are made to
look
> > crude, there is an example of one in the American
Numismatic
> Society
> > collection (but I can't find it on the database at the
moment), and
> > there is some article that mentions them in the British
Numismatic
> > Journal, but I don't know the exact reference. I believe
the
> > younger group (Vicken, John K. or Eric C.) know more about
this
> than
> > I do - it was from one of them that I learned about the BNJ
article.
> >
> > It's like those crude Irish counterfeit shillings - all I
can do
> > about those is to say, "Ah, a slap token," in a knowing
voice, but
> > that's about the extent of my knowledge.
> >
> > John M. Kleeberg
>
> An obvious imitation of the 1805-6 Irish designs, John, but
it could
> have been made in either Ireland or Britain, likely Britain
though.
> Just an opinion.
> Byron
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
----------
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
> a.. To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/colonial-coins/
>
> b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> colonial-coins-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.
|
|---|
