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Return-Path: <nrothschild@nmctech.com> X-Sender: nrothschild@nmctech.com X-Apparently-To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 14629 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2005 16:05:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Apr 2005 16:05:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail01b.rapidsite.net) (131.103.218.109) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 2005 16:05:15 -0000 Received: from www.nmctech.com (207.158.237.104) by mail01b.rapidsite.net (RS ver 1.0.95vs) with SMTP id 3-0915467508 for <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 12:05:14 -0400 (EDT) To: <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 12:03:58 -0400 Message-ID: <004701c5429d$e61a9e50$020ba8c0@I8500> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0048_01C5427C.5F08FE50" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 In-Reply-To: <072d01c5429b$10aec360$f2fea8c0@DIANEJ33YVI95P> Importance: Normal X-Loop-Detect:1 X-DistLoop-Detect:1 X-Originating-IP: 131.103.218.109 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: "Neil Rothschild" <nrothschild@nmctech.com> Reply-To: <nrothschild@nmctech.com> Subject: RE: [Colonial Numismatics] njray sent you this eBay item: Maris Woodburytype Plate of Colonials (#3969658567) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=113398776 X-Yahoo-Profile: nrothschild1
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And I am not talking about humorous posts. That is fine with me and not in the context of my thoughts..
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Neil
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-----Original Message----- From: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com [mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com= ] On Behalf Of Ray Williams Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 11:44 AM To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] njray sent you this eBay item: Maris Woodburytype Plate of Colonials (#3969658567)
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Neil,
Concise and to the point!=20
Ray
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Subject: RE: [Colonial Numismatics] njray sent you this eBay item: Maris Woodburytype Plate of Colonials (#3969658567)
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Ray,
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To be clear, I understand your context exactly. We do not have to be "scholarly", we just need to post with a maturity presumably commensurate with our years.
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Neil
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-----Original Message----- From: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com [mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com= ] On Behalf Of Ray Williams Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 9:57 AM To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] njray sent you this eBay item: Maris Woodburytype Plate of Colonials (#3969658567) Importance: High
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Thanks Neil,
That post just dealt with how we look on this group. But in no way should that be taken as a request for only scholarly, well researched posts= . There's several hundred on this group (I think) and there must be many many newcomers or part time colonial collectors. I'd encourage all to post question here, regardless how basic. If you see something in an auction catalog about Abel Buel and want to share and/or ask a question, this is th= e place to do it. Someone will have an answer, even if that answer is that w= e don't know at this time. That's one of the fun aspects about colonial coin= s - that there's a LOT that we don't know and any one of us can come across the answer either accidentally or through specific research. If this hobby isn't fun, relaxing and an escape from the outside world, then maybe it's not the right hobby for you. 99% of the colonial collectors are great people - fun to be around - happy to help and answer questions - willing to share their knowledge.=20=20
As an aside, this past Wednesday there was a Youth Group event at church. I will probably be a chaperone at some future event so I gave the teens a few minutes to get to know me. They had 20 questions... when my coin hobby came up, most of them started laughing a little as if it were a nerd hobby. I reached in my wallet and passed around a 1/4 cut Spanish 2 Reale coin I found detecting in Suffolk VA. I explained that cutting the coins was how they made small change and that the last person to touch that coin before me was wearing a three cornered hat and had buckles on his shoes! I also showed them a Denarii of Caesar Augustus and explained that the man whose portrait was on that coin called for a census of the Roman Empire and it was that census that brought Joseph and Mary to Bethlehem. I heard "wows" instead of laughter. But this is a fun hobby regardless of ho= w some of the misinformed public perceives it!
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Believe it or not, I must get to work... ON A SATURDAY!!!!
Ray
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Subject: RE: [Colonial Numismatics] njray sent you this eBay item: Maris Woodburytype Plate of Colonials (#3969658567)
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Ray,
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Excellent post. I am always amazed by how some people denigrate themselves and their future legacies, however minor, with what they post. I am involved in a fair number of internet groups and in most of them a relatively few who do not apparently care about this ruin it for everyone.
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-----Original Message----- From: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com [mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com= ] On Behalf Of Ray Williams Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 9:14 AM To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] njray sent you this eBay item: Maris Woodburytype Plate of Colonials (#3969658567)
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I had sent this to an eSIG that I'm a member of. I thought I'd post it here too. Please read the text on the ebay lot too.
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Hi All,
I saw this on EBAY and already own a couple copies. What I thought interesting is Charlie Davis' view of the Crosby-Maris relationship. How accurate are the perceptions we have of the noted collectors of the past? How we are remembered will probably have a lot to do with what we post on line. Very few of us will be remembered as the hobby greats, like those that we "revere" from the 19th and 20th Centuries. Certainly not me. But once we do something in cyber space, it's there forever for all to see. When posting on the public groups (and private too), let's think for a second about what we post and how it's presented, and only then click the send button. There's always several ways to express an opinion. The hobby will respect the mature and reasonable posts. Also, we're all of moderate intelligence and our posts should reflect that too. I still remember how t= o diagram a sentence, thanks to Mrs. Kissel in Grade School. The occasional humorous post and off topic statements help to lighten up the group, and I look forward to them - especially Steve Frank's! Well, I could go on but let me summarize by saying that I'd appreciate an atmosphere where we share the hobby with consideration for each other.=20=20
Ray
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>And I am not talking about humorous po= sts. That is fine with me and not in the context of my thoughts….</span></= font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards,</span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3DTahom= a><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br= > <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com [mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com] <b><= span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ray Williams<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, April 16, 20= 05 11:44 AM<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> colonial-coins@yahoogrou= ps.com<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Colonial Numismatics] njray sent you this eBay item: Maris Woodburytype Plate of Colonials (#3969658567)</span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy= face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ray,</span></font><= /p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 face=3DTaho= ma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br= > <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> <a href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.c= om</a> [mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com] <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'= >On Behalf Of </span></b>Ray Williams<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, April 16, 20= 05 9:57 AM<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> colonial-coins@yahoogrou= ps.com<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Colonial Numismatics] njray sent you this eBay item: Maris Woodburytype Plate of Colonials (#3969658567)<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Importance:</span></b> High</span></fon= t></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 face=3DAria= l><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> That post j= ust dealt with how we look on this group. But in no way should that be ta= ken as a request for only scholarly, well researched posts. There's sever= al hundred on this group (I think) and there must be many many newcomers or pa= rt time colonial collectors. I'd encourage all to post question here, re= gardless how basic. If you see something in an auction catalog about Abel Buel= and want to share and/or ask a question, this is the place to do it. Some= one will have an answer, even if that answer is that we don't know at this time. That's one of the fun aspects about colonial coins - that there= 's a LOT that we don't know and any one of us can come across the answer either accidentally or through specific research. If this hobby isn't fun, relaxing and an escape from the outside world, then maybe it's not the righ= t hobby for you. 99% of the colonial collectors are great people - fun = to be around - happy to help and answer questions - willing to share their knowledge. </span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 face=3DAria= l><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> As an aside= , this past Wednesday there was a Youth Group event at church. I will probab= ly be a chaperone at some future event so I gave the teens a few minutes to ge= t to know me. They had 20 questions... when my coin hobby came up, m= ost of them started laughing a little as if it were a nerd hobby. I reach= ed in my wallet and passed around a 1/4 cut Spanish 2 Reale coin I found detec= ting in Suffolk VA. I explained that cutting the coins was how they made s= mall change and that the last person to touch that coin before me was wearing a three cornered hat and had buckles on his shoes! I also showed them a Denarii of Caesar Augustus and explained that the man whose portrait was on that coin called for a census of the Roman Empire and it was that census th= at brought Joseph and Mary to Bethlehem. I heard "wows" instea= d of laughter. But this is a fun hobby regardless of how some of the misinformed public perceives it!</span></font></p>
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