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From: "John Lorenzo" <johnmenc@optonline.net>
Subject: A Canadian Blacksmith Connection via the True HTT's - A revisit
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I had asked Patricia Kennedy if she had any connections to True of=20
Troy, New York. This was her response:
John Lorenzo,
In response to your message of 8 June, I should first emphasize that=20
the
information in my message to you was derived from personal research
conducted over a decade ago and limited to source materials=20
available at the
National Archives of Canada (as we then were named). That research=20
focused
on the exercise of clemency, hence did not extend to investigation=20
of minute
details regarding various types of crime. While my research notes
demonstrate the relative frequency of counterfeiting, forgery and=20
uttering,
they provide at best only a starting point for a study of how and by=20
whom or
where counterfeit coins were produced. The occupations of persons=20
involved
in the production and circulation of false coin (notably that=20
silversmith in
my listing of cases) should serve to clarify some of the suggestions=20
made by
numismatists in the past, reducing speculation to substantive=20
explanation,
and possibly matching particular surviving examples of spurious coin=20
to
evidence given about their creation or circulation.
The most likely source of detailed descriptions for counterfeit=20
coins, and
information about who was involved in their production would be the
judicial records of prosecutions - attempted as well as successful
prosecutions. In my experience, Indictments, affidavits, Sentences=20
and
other documents produced by or for the courts will provide=20
substantial
details about materials stolen, misappropriated, fraudulently=20
misrepresented
(as in uttering), etc. Court records are a provincial=20
responsibility, hence
are held in the provincial archives at Toronto and Quebec, Halifax,
Fredericton, etc. While able to give you some advice on research=20
strategies
and methods, I am not able to undertake any research on your behalf,=20
either
here in the national archives nor by traveling to the provincial=20
archives.
(As an aside, let me mention that the accessibility of some source=20
materials
for an investigation of the printing of merchants' scrip, also known=20
as
"bons" or promissory notes, is quite another matter. The account=20
books of
Brown & Gilmore, printers of the Quebec Gazette, and partnership's=20
heirs the
brothers Samuel and John Neilson, contain numerous references to=20
printing of
promissory notes, change notes, tickets and bons. A year ago I was=20
able to
match surviving examples of such script - in the collection at the=20
Bank of
Canada - to specific account book entries.)
Considering the passage you quoted regarding the authorization given=20
in the
1830s to various banks to procure and issue coins or tokens, I wonder
whether numismatists have made extensive research into bank=20
records. The
rationale for that 1835 decision by the Bank of Montreal to refuse=20
certain
types of coppers would be well worth reading. Thinking of the=20
directives
provided by the Post Office to its postmasters, I wonder whether the=20
banks
provided directives to their minions regarding the means to recognize
spurious coin and the procedures for refusing to accept suspect coin.
I'll leave those thoughts with you for the moment.
Patricia Kennedy
Economic & Governance Archives, CAB, Library & Archives Canada
344 Wellington Street, Ottawa, Ontario, K1A 0N3
phone 613 - 996 7348
fax 613 - 943 8112
Internet Patricia.Kennedy@lac-bac.gc.ca
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