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From: "John Louis" <johnwlouis@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: missing image: V.14A-84B letter punch comparison
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Here is my lowly version.
I think I bought it on ebay a few years ago. (before I knew what it was)
John
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Clement V. Schettino=20
To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=20
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 2:18 PM
Subject: RE: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: missing image: V.14A-84B letter p=
unch comparison
I see. And I understand.
But the variety has already historically earned itself a value and a plac=
e somewhere in American numismatics. I was pretty happy with what one of my=
old ones brought in the last C4 sale although if it brought a couple G's m=
ore it wouldn't have surprised me either, based on past auction results tha=
t is. Just why people continue to hold this more dearly (read valuable) the=
n lets say the 1785's or even the 1781's is beyond me (but I'm happy as I s=
till need a few more 1785's <BG>). The population of 1784's is probably lar=
ger then all the 1781 and 1785 varieties totaled together, but don't tell a=
nyone.hehe.
I would like a decent example of 1784 myself, and do plan to include the =
variety in my new Guide on the counterfeits simply as 84-1.0-A.0 and of cou=
rse the cross reference equivalent would be V.18-84A (delisted) and the Bat=
ty number (if you can match it), but I'm looking for a decent example in lo=
wer grade, not the monsters I keep finding, I felt those were just to extra=
vagant for me to keep.
Clem
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From: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com [mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.c=
om] On Behalf Of Byron Weston
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 1:37 PM
To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: missing image: V.14A-84B letter punch=
comparison
I was being, what's that word, fecicous - spelling?
I may be able to give it a Batty number if I can match it to=20
something in his listings, but I might otherwise just rename them=20
both, perhaps Weston 6 and Weston 7, since there is already 1 thru 5,=20
and a 13.
And be careful using that word, "delisted," Clem!<s>
Byron
--- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "Clement V. Schettino"=20
<copperclem@...> wrote:
>
> It shouldn't have a V unless you are saying it is a MM. You=20
shouldn't use 14
> unless the obverse is the same, or 14B either, if the obverse is=20
close with
> only minor difference 14.1 might be in order if in fact you plan to=20
have it
> included in the MM series (of which 14 has already been delisted).=20
If
> totally different then you would need to use the next available=20
number but
> then you need to fight to get them both relisted.=20
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> Clem
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> _____=20
>=20
> From: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com [mailto:colonial-
coins@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Byron Weston
> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 12:15 PM
> To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: missing image: V.14A-84B letter=20
punch
> comparison
>=20
>=20
>=20
> OOPS, that should have been V.14B-84B, both dies are different than=20
14-
> 84A.
> This is what happens when I'm trying to do two things at the same=20
time.
> Byron
>=20
> --- In colonial-coins@ <mailto:colonial-coins%40yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com, "Byron Weston" <bkweston@>=20
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi again, Marc!
> > There was a missing image I somehow bollixed up in sending that=20
last=20
> message so here it is, again:
> >
>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here is my lowly version.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think I bought it on ebay a few years ag=
o.=20
(before I knew what it was)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>John</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, December 16, 2006 =
2:18=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Colonial Numismatics=
] Re:=20
missing image: V.14A-84B letter punch comparison</DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I see. And I=20
understand.<O></O></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O></O></SPAN>=
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">But the variet=
y has=20
already historically earned itself a value and a place somewhere in Ameri=
can=20
numismatics. I was pretty happy with what one of my old ones brought in t=
he=20
last C4 sale although if it brought a couple G=92s more it wouldn=92t hav=
e=20
surprised me either, based on past auction results that is. Just why peop=
le=20
continue to hold this more dearly (read valuable) then lets say the 1785=
=92s or=20
even the 1781=92s is beyond me (but I=92m happy as I still need a few mor=
e 1785=92s=20
<BG>). The population of 1784=92s is probably larger then all the 1=
781 and=20
1785 varieties totaled together, but don=92t tell=20
anyone=85hehe.<O></O></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O></O></SPAN>=
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I would like a=
decent=20
example of 1784 myself, and do plan to include the variety in my new Guid=
e on=20
the counterfeits simply as 84-1.0-A.0 and of course the cross reference=20
equivalent would be V.18-84A (delisted) and the Batty number (if you can =
match=20
it), but I=92m looking for a decent example in lower grade, not the monst=
ers I=20
keep finding, I felt those were just to extravagant for me to=20
keep.<O></O></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O></O></SPAN>=
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Clem<O></O></S=
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
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<ST1>colonial-coins@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</ST1>=20
[mailto:<ST1>colonial-coins@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</ST1>] <B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Byron Weston<BR><B><S=
PAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Saturday, December 16, 2006 =
1:37=20
PM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
<ST1>colonial-coins@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</ST1><BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Colonial Numismatics] Re=
:=20
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comparison</SPAN></FONT><O></O></P></DIV>
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<P><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt=
">I was=20
being, what's that word, fecicous - spelling?<BR>I may be able to give it=
a=20
Batty number if I can match it to <BR>something in his listings, but I mi=
ght=20
otherwise just rename them <BR>both, perhaps Weston 6 and Weston 7, since=
=20
there is already 1 thru 5, <BR>and a 13.<BR>And be careful using that wor=
d,=20
"delisted," Clem!<s><BR>Byron<BR><BR>--- In <A=20
href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins%40yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@<WBR>yaho=
ogroups.<WBR>com</A>,=20
"Clement V. Schettino" <BR><copperclem@<WBR>...> wrote:<BR>><BR>=
>=20
It shouldn't have a V unless you are saying it is a MM. You <BR>shouldn't=
use=20
14<BR>> unless the obverse is the same, or 14B either, if the obverse =
is=20
<BR>close with<BR>> only minor difference 14.1 might be in order if in=
fact=20
you plan to <BR>have it<BR>> included in the MM series (of which 14 ha=
s=20
already been delisted). <BR>If<BR>> totally different then you would n=
eed=20
to use the next available <BR>number but<BR>> then you need to fight t=
o get=20
them both relisted. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Clem<BR>> <BR>=
>=20
<BR>> <BR>> _____ <BR>> <BR>> From: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins%40yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@<WBR>yaho=
ogroups.<WBR>com</A>=20
[mailto:colonial-<BR><A=20
href=3D"mailto:coins%40yahoogroups.com">coins@yahoogroups.<WBR>com</A>]<B=
R>>=20
On Behalf Of Byron Weston<BR>> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 12:15=
=20
PM<BR>> To: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins%40yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@<WBR>yaho=
ogroups.<WBR>com</A><BR>>=20
Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: missing image: V.14A-84B letter=20
<BR>punch<BR>> comparison<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> OOPS, tha=
t=20
should have been V.14B-84B, both dies are different than <BR>14-<BR>>=
=20
84A.<BR>> This is what happens when I'm trying to do two things at the=
same=20
<BR>time.<BR>> Byron<BR>> <BR>> --- In colonial-coins@=20
<mailto:colonial-<WBR>coins%40yahoogro<WBR>ups.com><BR>>=20
yahoogroups.<WBR>com, "Byron Weston" <bkweston@> <BR>> wrote:<BR=
>>=20
><BR>> > Hi again, Marc!<BR>> > There was a missing image =
I=20
somehow bollixed up in sending that <BR>last <BR>> message so here it =
is,=20
again:<BR>> ><BR>><O></O></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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