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Return-Path: <johnwlouis@comcast.net> X-Sender: johnwlouis@comcast.net X-Apparently-To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 29544 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2006 23:12:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.34) by m33.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Dec 2006 23:12:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO alnrmhc11.comcast.net) (206.18.177.51) by mta8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Dec 2006 23:12:25 -0000 Received: from jwlouis (c-71-225-199-42.hsd1.nj.comcast.net[71.225.199.42]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc11) with SMTP id <20061216222758b1100k0qtve>; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 22:27:58 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c72161$6aea9010$6602a8c0@JWLouis> To: <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com> References: <007301c72147$05a1c170$6401a8c0@Downstairs> Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 17:27:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C72137.80B87A80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Originating-IP: 206.18.177.51 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 From: "John Louis" <johnwlouis@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: missing image: V.14A-84B letter punch comparison X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=251832052; y=s3ArujaXkEHvQPV4oriAr27udpAn-xBoOAOtdcPBJM3dSEz1 X-Yahoo-Profile: j33digger
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Here is my lowly version. I think I bought it on ebay a few years ago. (before I knew what it was) John
----- Original Message -----=20 From: Clement V. Schettino=20 To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=20 Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 2:18 PM Subject: RE: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: missing image: V.14A-84B letter p= unch comparison
I see. And I understand.
But the variety has already historically earned itself a value and a plac= e somewhere in American numismatics. I was pretty happy with what one of my= old ones brought in the last C4 sale although if it brought a couple G's m= ore it wouldn't have surprised me either, based on past auction results tha= t is. Just why people continue to hold this more dearly (read valuable) the= n lets say the 1785's or even the 1781's is beyond me (but I'm happy as I s= till need a few more 1785's <BG>). The population of 1784's is probably lar= ger then all the 1781 and 1785 varieties totaled together, but don't tell a= nyone.hehe.
I would like a decent example of 1784 myself, and do plan to include the = variety in my new Guide on the counterfeits simply as 84-1.0-A.0 and of cou= rse the cross reference equivalent would be V.18-84A (delisted) and the Bat= ty number (if you can match it), but I'm looking for a decent example in lo= wer grade, not the monsters I keep finding, I felt those were just to extra= vagant for me to keep.
Clem
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From: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com [mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.c= om] On Behalf Of Byron Weston Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 1:37 PM To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: missing image: V.14A-84B letter punch= comparison
I was being, what's that word, fecicous - spelling? I may be able to give it a Batty number if I can match it to=20 something in his listings, but I might otherwise just rename them=20 both, perhaps Weston 6 and Weston 7, since there is already 1 thru 5,=20 and a 13. And be careful using that word, "delisted," Clem!<s> Byron
--- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "Clement V. Schettino"=20 <copperclem@...> wrote: > > It shouldn't have a V unless you are saying it is a MM. You=20 shouldn't use 14 > unless the obverse is the same, or 14B either, if the obverse is=20 close with > only minor difference 14.1 might be in order if in fact you plan to=20 have it > included in the MM series (of which 14 has already been delisted).=20 If > totally different then you would need to use the next available=20 number but > then you need to fight to get them both relisted.=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Clem >=20 >=20 >=20 > _____=20 >=20 > From: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com [mailto:colonial- coins@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of Byron Weston > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 12:15 PM > To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: missing image: V.14A-84B letter=20 punch > comparison >=20 >=20 >=20 > OOPS, that should have been V.14B-84B, both dies are different than=20 14- > 84A. > This is what happens when I'm trying to do two things at the same=20 time. > Byron >=20 > --- In colonial-coins@ <mailto:colonial-coins%40yahoogroups.com> > yahoogroups.com, "Byron Weston" <bkweston@>=20 > wrote: > > > > Hi again, Marc! > > There was a missing image I somehow bollixed up in sending that=20 last=20 > message so here it is, again: > > >
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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.= w3c.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/loose.dtd"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1"= ><!-- Network content --> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2995" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here is my lowly version.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think I bought it on ebay a few years ag= o.=20 (before I knew what it was)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>John</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LE= FT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>Fro= m:</B>=20 <A title=3Dcopperclem@comcast.net href=3D"mailto:copperclem@comcast.net">= Clement=20 V. Schettino</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 title=3Dcolonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=20 href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogroups= .com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, December 16, 2006 = 2:18=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Colonial Numismatics= ] Re:=20 missing image: V.14A-84B letter punch comparison</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV id=3Dygrp-text> <P><!-- Network content --> <DIV class=3DSection1> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I see. And I=20 understand.<O></O></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O></O></SPAN>= </FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">But the variet= y has=20 already historically earned itself a value and a place somewhere in Ameri= can=20 numismatics. I was pretty happy with what one of my old ones brought in t= he=20 last C4 sale although if it brought a couple G=92s more it wouldn=92t hav= e=20 surprised me either, based on past auction results that is. Just why peop= le=20 continue to hold this more dearly (read valuable) then lets say the 1785= =92s or=20 even the 1781=92s is beyond me (but I=92m happy as I still need a few mor= e 1785=92s=20 <BG>). The population of 1784=92s is probably larger then all the 1= 781 and=20 1785 varieties totaled together, but don=92t tell=20 anyone=85hehe.<O></O></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O></O></SPAN>= </FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I would like a= decent=20 example of 1784 myself, and do plan to include the variety in my new Guid= e on=20 the counterfeits simply as 84-1.0-A.0 and of course the cross reference=20 equivalent would be V.18-84A (delisted) and the Batty number (if you can = match=20 it), but I=92m looking for a decent example in lower grade, not the monst= ers I=20 keep finding, I felt those were just to extravagant for me to=20 keep.<O></O></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O></O></SPAN>= </FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Clem<O></O></S= PAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O></O></SPAN>= </FONT></P> <DIV> <DIV class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT= =20 face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <HR tabIndex=3D-1 align=3Dcenter width=3D"100%" SIZE=3D2> </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</= SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20 face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahom= a">=20 <ST1>colonial-coins@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</ST1>=20 [mailto:<ST1>colonial-coins@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</ST1>] <B><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Byron Weston<BR><B><S= PAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Saturday, December 16, 2006 = 1:37=20 PM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20 <ST1>colonial-coins@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</ST1><BR><B><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Colonial Numismatics] Re= :=20 missing image: V.14A-84B letter punch=20 comparison</SPAN></FONT><O></O></P></DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O></O></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV id=3Dygrp-mlmsg> <DIV id=3Dygrp-msg> <DIV id=3Dygrp-text> <P><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt= ">I was=20 being, what's that word, fecicous - spelling?<BR>I may be able to give it= a=20 Batty number if I can match it to <BR>something in his listings, but I mi= ght=20 otherwise just rename them <BR>both, perhaps Weston 6 and Weston 7, since= =20 there is already 1 thru 5, <BR>and a 13.<BR>And be careful using that wor= d,=20 "delisted," Clem!<s><BR>Byron<BR><BR>--- In <A=20 href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins%40yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@<WBR>yaho= ogroups.<WBR>com</A>,=20 "Clement V. Schettino" <BR><copperclem@<WBR>...> wrote:<BR>><BR>= >=20 It shouldn't have a V unless you are saying it is a MM. You <BR>shouldn't= use=20 14<BR>> unless the obverse is the same, or 14B either, if the obverse = is=20 <BR>close with<BR>> only minor difference 14.1 might be in order if in= fact=20 you plan to <BR>have it<BR>> included in the MM series (of which 14 ha= s=20 already been delisted). <BR>If<BR>> totally different then you would n= eed=20 to use the next available <BR>number but<BR>> then you need to fight t= o get=20 them both relisted. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Clem<BR>> <BR>= >=20 <BR>> <BR>> _____ <BR>> <BR>> From: <A=20 href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins%40yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@<WBR>yaho= ogroups.<WBR>com</A>=20 [mailto:colonial-<BR><A=20 href=3D"mailto:coins%40yahoogroups.com">coins@yahoogroups.<WBR>com</A>]<B= R>>=20 On Behalf Of Byron Weston<BR>> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 12:15= =20 PM<BR>> To: <A=20 href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins%40yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@<WBR>yaho= ogroups.<WBR>com</A><BR>>=20 Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: missing image: V.14A-84B letter=20 <BR>punch<BR>> comparison<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> OOPS, tha= t=20 should have been V.14B-84B, both dies are different than <BR>14-<BR>>= =20 84A.<BR>> This is what happens when I'm trying to do two things at the= same=20 <BR>time.<BR>> Byron<BR>> <BR>> --- In colonial-coins@=20 <mailto:colonial-<WBR>coins%40yahoogro<WBR>ups.com><BR>>=20 yahoogroups.<WBR>com, "Byron Weston" <bkweston@> <BR>> wrote:<BR= >>=20 ><BR>> > Hi again, Marc!<BR>> > There was a missing image = I=20 somehow bollixed up in sending that <BR>last <BR>> message so here it = is,=20 again:<BR>> ><BR>><O></O></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dwhite size=3D= 3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: white"></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV><!--End g= roup email --></DIV></DIV> <P></P></DIV><!--End group email --></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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