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From: Ray Williams <njraywms@optonline.net>
Subject: David Brearley
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Steve
You'll read about Brearley in the next C4 Newsletter (or the one after =
that). I don't believe you'll find him buried in Woodbridge.
Ray
From: Steve Frank=20
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 7:25 PM
To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=20
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] CT variety verification?
Ray...I was kidding...but he is selling something that I know what he=
paid for. I actually did good selling through the old Early American Numis=
matics before the name was changed to Early American History. He isn't chea=
p but I saved those old catalogs just for the coolness factor. He plated al=
l the coins I sold...a Mass Pinetree, common variety, Noe-29...got 1200 ove=
r 20 years ago.If you were a type collector...it was perfect for you...full=
y struck and perfectly centered...got it from Mary...same as the Bolen-?? H=
igley....got a 4or 500 I think...full mint red...cherry red. Of course, the=
Red Book plate coin....went for around 800 bucks for a Camel head and I ha=
d paid 140...that was my first big score in coins. Held it 2 years. Was tol=
d Whitman had photographed it when I bought it, and that it was going to be=
the Red Book coin. The Red Book came out a couple months later, and they h=
ad added the Camel Head. but no photo...the following year, bingo!! My coin=
was the plate coin. If anyone has old red books, look back to the 80's whe=
n they added this...the first couple years you'll see it...had a red spot o=
n it making it very noticeable....I also sold a bunch of early paper from W=
oodbridge, and a Continental Currency from down south jersey...and 1 autogr=
aphed by David Brearly...think that's the proper spelling. I think he's bur=
ied in Rahway cemetery. I had also bought a Rev era navel cutless and somet=
hing signed by King George II with the wax stamp...never held onto anything=
for more than a couple years....there were a handful of other things bough=
t/sold over the EAN years.
--- On Fri, 12/18/09, Ray Williams <njraywms@optonline.net> wrote:
From: Ray Williams <njraywms@optonline.net>
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] CT variety verification?
To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 5:20 PM
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
I wonder if they're the ones from the Pawn Stars show...
Ray
From: Steve Frank=20
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 5:10 PM
To: colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com=20
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] CT variety verification?
Dana has the 3 GW buttons on ebay as a BIN for $75,000.00<s>
--- On Fri, 12/18/09, marc <marcm@sunflower. com> wrote:
From: marc <marcm@sunflower. com>
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] CT variety verification=
?
To: colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 4:52 PM
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John,
That expert was none other than Dana Linnett. He owns the c=
ompany that has all those colonial Early American History auctions. I can't=
believe he estimated one at 2 grand; another, at 2 to 3 grand; and the las=
t at 6-8 grand and the idiot took 3 grand for the whole group.
Dana's been on 3 times that I know of, for an early map of =
Boston and a double John Hancock article.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: John W. Louis=20
To: colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com=20
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 08:50
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] CT variety verificati=
on?
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Now we are talking!
Very nice.
Hey did you catch any of the history channel recently? Do=
you ever watch Pawn Stars?
Some guy brought 3 GW buttons in the store and the dealer=
said he wasn't sure about them and had to bring in an expert. I had to lau=
gh. I'm no expert but I surely would have recognized GW buttons! He should =
have bought them quickly rather then bring in an expert. He had to pay clos=
er to the expert price of thousands!
jwl
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Don H=20
To: colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com=20
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] CT variety verifica=
tion?
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John
Well, went looking at my files and I believe the second=
one down in this photo is the best conditiioned ground found of the Conn c=
oppers we have, these are some of the ones my son has found. I have some =
better NJ coppers and even VT but Conn coppers and me? NOT perfect togethe=
r. :>)
Don
----- Original Message -----=20
From: John W. Louis=20
To: colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com=20
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] CT variety verifi=
cation?
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Don,
Just go out and find a nicer one!
:)
jwl
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Don H=20
To: colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com=20
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] CT variety veri=
fication?
=
=20
Well, my eyes are fresher this morning :>) so will=
take into account what has been said, Randy I will especially look at the=
points you mentioned, although i think I already did and was wishy washy =
LOL.
I will try day light photos and see if one of the i=
mportant features needed shows up better and will scope it out with my 10x =
magnifier...
Still open for more replies, I really was hoping it=
was a Jersey for my last find of the year, would have been so appropriate,=
of well.
Ah, weight, 119.4 grains fyi......... ..
Don
Ribbit, watch it, I may have to count you in a surv=
ey, my only job I have done since I retired was being a volunteer Frog/Toad=
survey taker for the NJ DEP. :>) Could you croak a few bars so I can =
ID you... ........
----- Original Message -----=20
From: palmers4@rcn. com=20
To: colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com=20
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 1:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] CT variety ve=
rification?
=
=20
Sometimes it is necessary to second guess yoursel=
f, but in my experience it
is much better not to<S> David
Original Message:
------------ -----
From: Toad toad@coinchat. org
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 23:42:25 -0600
To: colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] CT variety ve=
rification?
See what I get for second guessing myself. :|
Ribbit :D
----- Original Message -----=20
From: palmers4@rcn. com=20
To: colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com=20
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 11:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] CT variety ve=
rification?
Don, I believe that it is 6.4-K. Not A.2, and not=
I reverses. Matches up
to
too many points of 6.4-K not to be. Of course, as=
you say, I would rather
see it in the copper to be certain, but I thought=
you might want my best
guess based upon your pic. David
Original Message:
------------ -----
From: Don H slospokes2@comcast. net
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:38:33 -0500
To: colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] CT variety ve=
rification?
I know looking at the coin itself is better than =
my photos, but I am
considering A2 also, but have not convinced mysel=
f yet. :>=20
But should not the crack be somewhat visible on t=
he Obverse if it is a
4.3?
I see no evidence of a crack.
I do not see the Obverse being a 4.3, thus elimin=
ating A2??? Fun when
these coppers are in such great shape. I have nev=
er found many CTs, and I
believe most are not identified, my son has had b=
etter luck with his CT
grounders for condition.
I still think the Obverse is a 6.4 and not 4.3, b=
ut these darn CT are
mucho
harder than NJ coppers. :>)
Don
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Toad=20
To: colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com=20
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] CT variety ve=
rification?
=C3=AF=C2=BB=C2=BF=20
I am now leaning towards a A-2 reverse. ;)
Ribbit :)
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Steve</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You'll read about =
Brearley=20
in the next C4 Newsletter (or the one after that). I don't believe yo=
u'll=20
find him buried in Woodbridge.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ray</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3D"mailto:taxi_steve929@yahoo.com
CTRL + Click to follow link"=20
href=3D"mailto:taxi_steve929@yahoo.com">Steve Frank</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 18, 2009 7:25 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
CTRL + Click to follow l=
ink"=20
href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.c=
om</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Colonial Numismatics] CT variety=20
verification?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<TD vAlign=3Dtop>Ray...I was kidding...but he is selling something that=
I=20
know what he paid for. I actually did good selling through the old Ea=
rly=20
American Numismatics before the name was changed to Early American=20
History. He isn't cheap but I saved those old catalogs just for the=20
coolness factor. He plated all the coins I sold...a Mass Pinetree, co=
mmon=20
variety, Noe-29...got 1200 over 20 years ago.If you were a type=20
collector...it was perfect for you...fully struck and perfectly=20
centered...got it from Mary...same as the Bolen-?? Higley....got a 4o=
r=20
500 I think...full mint red...cherry red. Of course, the Red Boo=
k=20
plate coin....went for around 800 bucks for a Camel head and I had pa=
id=20
140...that was my first big score in coins. Held it 2 years. Was told=
=20
Whitman had photographed it when I bought it, and that it was going t=
o be=20
the Red Book coin. The Red Book came out a couple months later, and t=
hey=20
had added the Camel Head. but no photo...the following year, bingo!! =
My=20
coin was the plate coin. If anyone has old red books, look back to th=
e=20
80's when they added this...the first couple years you'll see it...ha=
d a=20
red spot on it making it very noticeable....I also sold a bunch of ea=
rly=20
paper from Woodbridge, and a Continental Currency from down south=20
jersey...and 1 autographed by David Brearly...think that's the proper=
=20
spelling. I think he's buried in Rahway cemetery. I had also bought a=
Rev=20
era navel cutless and something signed by King George II with the wax=
=20
stamp...never held onto anything for more than a couple years....ther=
e=20
were a handful of other things bought/sold over the EAN years.<BR><BR=
>---=20
On <B>Fri, 12/18/09, Ray Williams=20
<I><njraywms@optonline.net></I></B> wrote:<BR>
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style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,=
255) 2px solid"><BR>From:=20
Ray Williams <njraywms@optonline.net><BR>Subject: Re: [Coloni=
al=20
Numismatics] CT variety verification?<BR>To:=20
colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com<BR>Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, =
5:20=20
PM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=3Dyiv1333632749><SPAN style=3D"DISPLAY: none"> </SPAN>=
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<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I wonder if they're the ones from =
the Pawn=20
Stars show...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ray</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dtaxi_steve929@yahoo.com=20
href=3D"http://us.mc844.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dtaxi_steve92=
9@yahoo.com"=20
target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow=20
ymailto=3D"mailto:taxi_steve929@yahoo.com">Steve Frank</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 18, 2009 5:10 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dcolonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=20
href=3D"http://us.mc844.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dcolonial-coi=
ns@yahoogroups.com"=20
target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow=20
ymailto=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@=20
<SPAN>yahoogroups</SPAN>. com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Colonial Numismatics] CT variety=20
verification?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Dana has the 3 GW buttons on ebay as a BIN for=20
$75,000.00<s></DIV>
<DIV><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 12/18/09, marc <I><<A=20
href=3D"http://us.mc844.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dmarcm@=
sunflower.com"=20
target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow=20
ymailto=3D"mailto:marcm@sunflower.com">marcm@sunflower.=20
com</A>></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: m=
arc=20
<<A=20
href=3D"http://us.mc844.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dmarc=
m@sunflower.com"=20
target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow=20
ymailto=3D"mailto:marcm@sunflower.com">marcm@sunflower.=20
com</A>><BR>Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] CT varie=
ty=20
verification?<BR>To: <A=20
href=3D"http://us.mc844.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dcolo=
nial-coins@yahoogroups.com"=20
target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow=20
ymailto=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-=
coins@=20
yahoogroups. com</A><BR>Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 4:=
52=20
PM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=3Dyiv398010848><SPAN> </SPAN>=20
<DIV id=3Dygrp-text>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>John,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That expert was none other=
than=20
Dana Linnett. He owns the company that has all those coloni=
al=20
Early American History auctions. I can't believe he estimat=
ed=20
one at 2 grand; another, at 2 to 3 grand; and the last at 6=
-8=20
grand and the idiot took 3 grand for the whole=20
group.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dana's been on 3 times tha=
t I know=20
of, for an early map of Boston and a double John Hancock=20
article.</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid">
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message --=
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</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:<=
/B> <A=20
title=3Djohnwlouis@comcast.net=20
href=3D"http://us.mc844.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Djo=
hnwlouis@comcast.net"=20
target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>John W. Louis</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dcolonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=20
href=3D"http://us.mc844.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dco=
lonial-coins@yahoogroups.com"=20
target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>colonial-coins@ yahoogroup=
s.=20
com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, Dece=
mber=20
18, 2009 08:50</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Colo=
nial=20
Numismatics] CT variety verification?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><SPAN> </SPAN>=20
<DIV id=3Dygrp-text>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now we are talking!</FON=
T></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Very nice.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey did you catch any of=
the=20
history channel recently? Do you ever watch Pawn=20
Stars?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Some guy brought 3 GW bu=
ttons in=20
the store and the dealer said he wasn't sure about them a=
nd=20
had to bring in an expert. I had to laugh. I'm no expert =
but I=20
surely would have recognized GW buttons! He should have b=
ought=20
them quickly rather then bring in an expert. He had to pa=
y=20
closer to the expert price of thousands!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>jwl</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message =
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</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From=
:</B>=20
<A title=3Dslospokes2@comcast.net=20
href=3D"http://us.mc844.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3D=
slospokes2@comcast.net"=20
target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>Don H</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dcolonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=20
href=3D"http://us.mc844.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3D=
colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com"=20
target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>colonial-coins@ yahoogro=
ups.=20
com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, De=
cember=20
18, 2009 9:41 AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Co=
lonial=20
Numismatics] CT variety verification?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><SPAN> </SPAN>=20
<DIV id=3Dygrp-text>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>John</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well, went looking at =
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and I believe the second one down in this photo is the =
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conditiioned ground found of the Conn coppers we have,&=
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these are some of the ones my son has found. I ha=
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some better NJ copper
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