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Hi Ishmael!! A whale of a tale. R
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 2, 2014, at 5:10 PM, "Will N"<books@bowmanstonepress.com> wrote:
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> From: rogermoore435@yahoo.com
> To: "colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thu, Jan 2, 2014 22:04:26 GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Happy New Year and Ray rambling a bit=
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> Sounds like a medical problem!!! R
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>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 4:18 PM, marcus mayhugh <remi66111@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>=20
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>> Earl is his title, not his name. His name was Richard and they called hi=
m "Black Dick" Darn it, there I go again,the Cliff Claven syndrome.
>> Marc
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>> On Thursday, January 2, 2014 2:16 PM, Bruce Smith <bhsmith325@gmail.com>=
wrote:
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>> Here's a half penny.
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>> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Jeff Rock <rosaamltd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>=20=20
>> And we have a nice portrait of him on an Evasion copper -- with a Britan=
nia reverse too!
>>=20
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>> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 11:09 AM, John Louis <johnwlouis@comcast.net> wro=
te:
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>> OK, thank you.
>> General Howe went on to occupy the nation's capital thinking that this r=
ebellion would come to an end.
>> He was the King of Philadelphia!
>> However, hostilities did not end.
>> Washington's army was still intact!
>> jwl
>>=20=20
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Bruce Smith
>> To: colonial-coins
>> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 10:15 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Happy New Year and Ray rambling a bi=
t - News from the Front!
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>> That was all of the foreign report from that issue of The Sentimental.=20
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>> On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 10:28 PM, John Louis <johnwlouis@comcast.net> wro=
te:
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>> This is excellent reading! The British had a heck of a time sailing from=
New York around the New Jersey Cape and up the Chesapeke.
>> I think they wanted to sail up the Deleware but it didn't work out for t=
hem. Could you imagine trying to navigate 267 ships in unfamiliar waters?
>> After they landed in Maryland, I believe they pushed forward and eventua=
lly captured Philadelphia after the battles of Brandywine and Chad's Ford.
>> I think there was something on the history channel about Washington almo=
st being killed during these engagements. (fact or folklure?)
>> Bruce, do you have more of these articles? from the same time period?
>> jwl
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>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>> From: Bruce Smith
>> To: colonial-coins
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 9:21 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Happy New Year and Ray rambling a bi=
t - News from the Front! [5 Attachments]
>>=20
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>> Happy New Year! Speaking of the Sentimental Magazine, I received =
the catalog I mentioned earlier. Nothing numismatic popped out, but I haven=
't studied it carefully. I'm attaching scans of more of the single issue th=
at I do have. Included is a declaration from Howe assuring all loyal coloni=
sts in PA and surrounding area that they won't be molested, and offering fo=
rgiveness to any rebels who return to the fold. There are excerpts from let=
ters reporting on British action which make good reading. Burgoyne reports =
on an a failed attempt to capture rebel cattle at Bennington. This is what =
the folks at home would have been reading about what was going on here. It'=
s pretty cool stuff.
>>=20
>> I'll second what Ray said about sharing via a presentation to a club. Ev=
en though I'm used to talking to 4th graders all day, I was a little unsure=
of speaking to my club (Central Ohio Numismatic Association - They were go=
ing to call it a Society but thought better of it). There are usually 50 - =
60 in attendance. I spoke on my interest in Connecticut Copper. I had some =
help from friends preparing, and it went really well. I've already voluntee=
red to do another talk this year.
>>=20
>> Bruce
>>=20
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>> On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Ray Williams <njraywms@optonline.net> w=
rote:
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>> Good Morning All,
>> and Happy New Year!
>> 2013 was a great year numismatically! It started off in January at=20
>> a benefit dinner for the ANS at the Waldorf Astoria, which honored a=20
>> good friend who just stepped down as ANS president. The dinner was even=
=20
>> better because the new ANS president (another good friend) presided.=20
>> Diane and I drove in to the event with Leo & Maryalice (C4 Librarian &=20
>> wife). The wives probably learned a lot if they were paying any=20
>> attention to me & Leo! LOL! Do you realize that so far in the 21st=20
>> century, we have had a C4 member at the helm of the ANS? The day after,=
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>> I was able to attend the NYINC, which was also in the Waldorf.
>> I had fun sharing colonial numismatics with about a dozen clubs and=20
>> organizations in 2013. Those that know me also know that I'll talk=20
>> coins to anyone willing to not walk away. On Thursday September 19th, I=
=20
>> was setting up to give a presentation to the West Jersey Coin Club and=20
>> one of the officers said that he didn't know how good the attendance=20
>> would be because there was some special game on TV (Phillies or=20
>> Eagles). I told him that if it were just him and me, I would still have=
=20
>> fun giving the talk. I could go thru the club meetings, board meetings,=
=20
>> shows & conventions... but that would be boring. My last convention of=20
>> the year was the C4 Convention in Baltimore. The C4 Reception,=20
>> educational events, C4 exhibits, the book signing for the new NJ Book,=20
>> Whitman events, the C4 Auction, ANS Reception and the many hobby friends=
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>> I get to rubs elbow with...
>> Wouldn't it be nice to be able to go back in time and have a coffee=20
>> with Dr. Maris, or Joseph Mickley, Sylvester Crosby and the many others=
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>> from our hobby past. These people are the hobby greats that we admire=20
>> today and others have built upon their works. But if you give it a=20
>> little thought, we live amongst the hobby greats today - the people that=
=20
>> generations to come would wish that they would have had an opportunity=20
>> to talk to. BUT we can. They are the guys and gals that share research=20
>> publishing in books & articles, cataloging great collections (and not so=
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>> great ones), forming great collections... There's not a one tha=
t is=20
>> unapproachable at a convention. All can be contacted by email. As a=20
>> little side story, many times in my earlier years, I would see Dave=20
>> Bowers on a convention floor or at an auction or ANS/ANA event. I felt=20
>> at the time that I didn't want to waste his time by approaching him and=
=20
>> trying to strike up a conversation. How much hobby enjoyment I missed=20
>> out on by thinking like that! Years later I did introduce myself and=20
>> found him to be very approachable and willing to share knowledge. The=20
>> same applies to others such as Eric Newman & Ken Bressett. But the=20
>> hobby greats of today aren't only prolific writers... Just look through=
=20
>> the pages of the C4N and CNL. I'm fortunate to live on the East Coast,=20
>> where there are a lot of "hobby greats". I can easily send an email and=
=20
>> have a roast beef sandwich with them at a small bar in PA, or visit them=
=20
>> at the Jersey Shore, or meet them in a farmer's field to dig up colonial=
=20
>> coins, or see them at a live Stack's Bowers auction, or bump into them=20
>> at the ANS. But I also enjoy making calls to talk to them as far away=20
>> as CA and FL and Canada.
>> To change the direction of my rambling, I'd like to encourage you=20
>> to personally try to do one thing to make your hobby better in 2014...=20
>> maybe write an article (even if only a half a page), talk to a local=20
>> coin club for 15 minutes about your colonial interests, exhibit some of=
=20
>> your coins and paper money, volunteer at the C4 convention. These are=20
>> major contributions to the hobby and all are very fun to do. There are=20
>> also very important, but seldom thought of, things you can do to=20
>> support/encourage others. If there's an article written that you really=
=20
>> enjoyed - let the author know. If his/her contact info isn't with the=20
>> article, then the editor can forward your email. Thank an author for=20
>> writing a book you find useful and enjoy. If you like a particular=20
>> website, click on the "contact webmaster" and let them know. If you=20
>> enjoyed a speaker, an exhibit, a convention, a DVD... let the people=20
>> responsible know. Most of these people in the hobby are doing what they=
=20
>> do for no monetary compensation, and a pat on the back goes a long way=20
>> to encouraging them to continue.
>> C4... What a great organization! In the front of every=20
>> newsletter is the contact information for all the officers. Support=20
>> them where you can. Make use of them too. If you think of something=20
>> that can make C4 better, contact your region's VP, or any of the=20
>> national officers. They are there to represent you; so suggesti=
ons,=20
>> complaints, compliments and volunteers are always welcome. Having not=20
>> been an elected C4 officer for three years now, I try my best to support=
=20
>> those that are. It's fun to be a part of what's going on. You can be too=
.
>> I'll close with one of the most wonderful things that happened to=20
>> me. At the C4 Convention, I purchased ten of the "Sentimental Tokens"=20
>> from Byron Weston. They were all in nice/affordable condition. These=20
>> tokens were issued in the 1770s by the Sentimental Magazine as a=20
>> give-away for subscribers - maybe like a prize in a cereal box. They=20
>> are nicely done copper tokens, engraved by Kirk. The complete set=20
>> consists of 13 tokens, so I figured it was a set I could complete and do=
=20
>> so economically, with only three tokens to go. C4 friends found out=20
>> what I had and two different friends gifted me the needed three! This=20
>> was such an amazing gift I just had to share.
>>=20
>> To end, I want to encourage you all to make a New Years resolution to
>> do something to contribute to the hobby. It'll be fun!
>>=20
>> Happy and Healthy New Year!
>> Ray
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=3Dutf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Hi Ishmael!! A whale of a ta=
le. R<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jan 2, 2014, at 5:10 PM, =
"Will N"<<a href=3D"mailto:books@bowmanstonepress.com">books@bowmanstone=
press.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>
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<p></p><div style=3D"font-family: sans-serif;font-size: 16px;">Call m=
e Ishmael...<br><br><font color=3D"#333333"><i><span style=3D"font-size: 14=
px;"><font face=3D"sans-serif">Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless</font=
></span></i></font></div><br><br>-----Original message-----<br><blockquote>=
<div style=3D"font-family: sans-serif;font-size: 14px;"><b>From: </b><a hre=
f=3D"mailto:rogermoore435@yahoo.com">rogermoore435@yahoo.com</a><b><br>To: =
</b>"<a href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoo=
groups.com</a>" <<a href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colon=
ial-coins@yahoogroups.com</a>><b><br>Sent: </b>Thu, Jan 2, 2014 22:04:26=
GMT+00:00<b><br>Subject: </b>Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Happy New Year and=
Ray rambling a bit - News from the Front!<br><br></div><div>
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<p></p><div>Sounds like a medical problem!!! R<br><br>Sent from=
my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jan 2, 2014, at 4:18 PM, marcus mayhugh <<a =
href=3D"mailto:remi66111@yahoo.com">remi66111@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><=
br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>
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veticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;fon=
t-size:12pt;"><div><span>Earl is his title, not his name. His name was Rich=
ard and they called him "Black Dick" Darn it, there I go again,the Cliff Cl=
aven syndrome.</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size: 16p=
x;font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida G=
rande', sans-serif;background-color: transparent;font-style: normal;"><span=
>Marc</span></div><div class=3D"yahoo_quoted"> <br> <br> <div style=3D"font=
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, sans-serif;font-size: 12pt;"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, '=
Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size: 1=
2pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Thursday, Janu=
ary 2, 2014 2:16 PM, Bruce Smith
<<a href=3D"mailto:bhsmith325@gmail.com">bhsmith325@gmail.com</a>> w=
rote:<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><div id=3D"yiv7391=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Here's a half penny.</div><div class=3D"yiv739183759=
4yqt1702161469" id=3D"yiv7391837594yqt43836"><div class=3D"yiv7391837594gma=
il_extra"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv7391837594=
gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Jeff Rock <span dir=3D"ltr">&l=
t;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:rosaamltd@gmail.com"=
target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:rosaamltd@gmail.com">rosaamltd@gmail.com<=
/a>></span> wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
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c solid;">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">And we have a nice portrait of him on an Evasion cop=
per -- with a Britannia reverse too!</div><div class=3D"yiv7391837594gmail_=
extra"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv7391837594gma=
il_quote">On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 11:09 AM, John Louis <span dir=3D"ltr"><=
;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:johnwlouis@comcast.ne=
t" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:johnwlouis@comcast.net">johnwlouis@comc=
ast.net</a>></span> wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
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c solid;">
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</div><div><font face=3D"Arial">OK, thank you.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">General Howe went on to occupy the nation's capit=
al=20
thinking that this rebellion would come to an end. </font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">He was the King of Philadelphia!</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">However, hostilities did not end. </font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">Washington's army was still intact!</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">jwl</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial"></font> </div>
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der-left-style:solid;"><div>
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Message ----- </div>
<div style=3D"background:rgb(228,228,228);font-size-adjust:none;font-stre=
tch:normal;"><b>From:</b>=20
<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" title=3D"bhsmith325@gmail.com" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:bhsmith325@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:bhsmith32=
5@gmail.com">Bruce=20
Smith</a> </div>
<div style=3D"font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;"><b>To:</b> <a r=
el=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" title=3D"colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" yma=
ilto=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"ma=
ilto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins</a> </div>
</div><div><div><div style=3D"font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;"=
><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 02, 2014 10:15=20
AM</div>
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Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Happy=20
New Year and Ray rambling a bit - News from the Front!</div>
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</div><div dir=3D"ltr">That was all of the foreign report from that issue=
of <i>The=20
Sentimental. </i></div>
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one">
<div class=3D"yiv7391837594gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 10:28 PM, =
John Louis <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:johnwlouis@comcast.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:johnwlo=
uis@comcast.net">johnwlouis@comcast.net</a>></span> wrote:<br clear=3D"n=
one">
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:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;"><u></u>
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<div><u></u></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">This is excellent reading! The British had a =
heck of a=20
time sailing from New York around the New Jersey Cape and up the Chesap=
eke.=20
</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">I think they wanted to sail up the Deleware b=
ut it=20
didn't work out for them. Could you imagine trying to navigate 267 ship=
s in=20
unfamiliar waters?</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">After they landed in Maryland, I believe they=
pushed=20
forward and eventually captured Philadelphia after the battles of Brand=
ywine=20
and Chad's Ford.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">I think there was something on the history ch=
annel=20
about Washington almost being killed during these engagements. (fact or=
=20
folklure?)</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">Bruce, do you have more of these articles? fr=
om the=20
same time period?</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">jwl</font></div>
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<div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial"></font> </div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-left-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-left-width:2px=
;border-left-style:solid;">
<div style=3D"font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;">----- Origi=
nal Message ----- </div>
<div style=3D"background:rgb(228,228,228);font-size-adjust:none;font-=
stretch:normal;"><b>From:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" title=3D"b=
hsmith325@gmail.com" ymailto=3D"mailto:bhsmith325@gmail.com" target=3D"_bla=
nk" href=3D"mailto:bhsmith325@gmail.com">Bruce Smith</a> </div>
<div style=3D"font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;"><b>To:</b> =
<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" title=3D"colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com"=
ymailto=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins</a> </div>
<div style=3D"font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;"><b>Sent:</b=
> Wednesday, January 01, 2014=20
9:21 PM</div>
<div style=3D"font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;"><b>Subject:=
</b> Re: [Colonial Numismatics]=20
Happy New Year and Ray rambling a bit - News from the Front! [5=20
Attachments]</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><span> </span>=20
<div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Happy New Year! Speaking of the <i>Sentimental Magaz=
ine,=20
</i>I received the catalog I mentioned earlier. Nothing numismatic po=
pped=20
out, but I haven't studied it carefully. I'm attaching scans of more =
of=20
the single issue that I do have. Included is a declaration from Howe=
=20
assuring all loyal colonists in PA and surrounding area that they won=
't be=20
molested, and offering forgiveness to any rebels who return to the fo=
ld.=20
There are excerpts from letters reporting on British action which mak=
e=20
good reading. Burgoyne reports on an a failed attempt to capture rebe=
l=20
cattle at Bennington. This is what the folks at home would have been=
=20
reading about what was going on here. It's pretty cool stuff.=20
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div>I'll second what Ray said about sharing via a presentation to a =
club.=20
Even though I'm used to talking to 4th graders all day, I was a littl=
e=20
unsure of speaking to my club (Central Ohio Numismatic Association - =
They=20
were going to call it a Society but thought better of it). There are=
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