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    Hi Ishmael!! A whale of a tale. R

    Sent from my iPhone

    > On Jan 2, 2014, at 5:10 PM, "Will N"<books@bowmanstonepress.com> wrote:
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    > Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Happy New Year and Ray rambling a bit=
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    > Sounds like a medical problem!!! R
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    >> On Jan 2, 2014, at 4:18 PM, marcus mayhugh <remi66111@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >>=20
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    >> Earl is his title, not his name. His name was Richard and they called hi=
    m "Black Dick" Darn it, there I go again,the Cliff Claven syndrome.
    >> Marc
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    >> On Thursday, January 2, 2014 2:16 PM, Bruce Smith <bhsmith325@gmail.com>=
    wrote:
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    >> Here's a half penny.
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    >> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Jeff Rock <rosaamltd@gmail.com> wrote:
    >>=20=20
    >> And we have a nice portrait of him on an Evasion copper -- with a Britan=
    nia reverse too!
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    >> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 11:09 AM, John Louis <johnwlouis@comcast.net> wro=
    te:
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    >> OK, thank you.
    >> General Howe went on to occupy the nation's capital thinking that this r=
    ebellion would come to an end.
    >> He was the King of Philadelphia!
    >> However, hostilities did not end.
    >> Washington's army was still intact!
    >> jwl
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    >> ----- Original Message -----
    >> From: Bruce Smith
    >> To: colonial-coins
    >> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 10:15 AM
    >> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Happy New Year and Ray rambling a bi=
    t - News from the Front!
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    >> That was all of the foreign report from that issue of The Sentimental.=20
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    >> On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 10:28 PM, John Louis <johnwlouis@comcast.net> wro=
    te:
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    >> This is excellent reading! The British had a heck of a time sailing from=
    New York around the New Jersey Cape and up the Chesapeke.
    >> I think they wanted to sail up the Deleware but it didn't work out for t=
    hem. Could you imagine trying to navigate 267 ships in unfamiliar waters?
    >> After they landed in Maryland, I believe they pushed forward and eventua=
    lly captured Philadelphia after the battles of Brandywine and Chad's Ford.
    >> I think there was something on the history channel about Washington almo=
    st being killed during these engagements. (fact or folklure?)
    >> Bruce, do you have more of these articles? from the same time period?
    >> jwl
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    >> ----- Original Message -----=20
    >> From: Bruce Smith
    >> To: colonial-coins
    >> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 9:21 PM
    >> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Happy New Year and Ray rambling a bi=
    t - News from the Front! [5 Attachments]
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    >> Happy New Year! Speaking of the Sentimental Magazine, I received =
    the catalog I mentioned earlier. Nothing numismatic popped out, but I haven=
    't studied it carefully. I'm attaching scans of more of the single issue th=
    at I do have. Included is a declaration from Howe assuring all loyal coloni=
    sts in PA and surrounding area that they won't be molested, and offering fo=
    rgiveness to any rebels who return to the fold. There are excerpts from let=
    ters reporting on British action which make good reading. Burgoyne reports =
    on an a failed attempt to capture rebel cattle at Bennington. This is what =
    the folks at home would have been reading about what was going on here. It'=
    s pretty cool stuff.
    >>=20
    >> I'll second what Ray said about sharing via a presentation to a club. Ev=
    en though I'm used to talking to 4th graders all day, I was a little unsure=
    of speaking to my club (Central Ohio Numismatic Association - They were go=
    ing to call it a Society but thought better of it). There are usually 50 - =
    60 in attendance. I spoke on my interest in Connecticut Copper. I had some =
    help from friends preparing, and it went really well. I've already voluntee=
    red to do another talk this year.
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    >> Bruce
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    >> On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Ray Williams <njraywms@optonline.net> w=
    rote:
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    >> Good Morning All,
    >> and Happy New Year!
    >> 2013 was a great year numismatically! It started off in January at=20
    >> a benefit dinner for the ANS at the Waldorf Astoria, which honored a=20
    >> good friend who just stepped down as ANS president. The dinner was even=
    =20
    >> better because the new ANS president (another good friend) presided.=20
    >> Diane and I drove in to the event with Leo & Maryalice (C4 Librarian &=20
    >> wife). The wives probably learned a lot if they were paying any=20
    >> attention to me & Leo! LOL! Do you realize that so far in the 21st=20
    >> century, we have had a C4 member at the helm of the ANS? The day after,=
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    >> I was able to attend the NYINC, which was also in the Waldorf.
    >> I had fun sharing colonial numismatics with about a dozen clubs and=20
    >> organizations in 2013. Those that know me also know that I'll talk=20
    >> coins to anyone willing to not walk away. On Thursday September 19th, I=
    =20
    >> was setting up to give a presentation to the West Jersey Coin Club and=20
    >> one of the officers said that he didn't know how good the attendance=20
    >> would be because there was some special game on TV (Phillies or=20
    >> Eagles). I told him that if it were just him and me, I would still have=
    =20
    >> fun giving the talk. I could go thru the club meetings, board meetings,=
    =20
    >> shows & conventions... but that would be boring. My last convention of=20
    >> the year was the C4 Convention in Baltimore. The C4 Reception,=20
    >> educational events, C4 exhibits, the book signing for the new NJ Book,=20
    >> Whitman events, the C4 Auction, ANS Reception and the many hobby friends=
    =20
    >> I get to rubs elbow with...
    >> Wouldn't it be nice to be able to go back in time and have a coffee=20
    >> with Dr. Maris, or Joseph Mickley, Sylvester Crosby and the many others=
    =20
    >> from our hobby past. These people are the hobby greats that we admire=20
    >> today and others have built upon their works. But if you give it a=20
    >> little thought, we live amongst the hobby greats today - the people that=
    =20
    >> generations to come would wish that they would have had an opportunity=20
    >> to talk to. BUT we can. They are the guys and gals that share research=20
    >> publishing in books & articles, cataloging great collections (and not so=
    =20
    >> great ones), forming great collections... There's not a one tha=
    t is=20
    >> unapproachable at a convention. All can be contacted by email. As a=20
    >> little side story, many times in my earlier years, I would see Dave=20
    >> Bowers on a convention floor or at an auction or ANS/ANA event. I felt=20
    >> at the time that I didn't want to waste his time by approaching him and=
    =20
    >> trying to strike up a conversation. How much hobby enjoyment I missed=20
    >> out on by thinking like that! Years later I did introduce myself and=20
    >> found him to be very approachable and willing to share knowledge. The=20
    >> same applies to others such as Eric Newman & Ken Bressett. But the=20
    >> hobby greats of today aren't only prolific writers... Just look through=
    =20
    >> the pages of the C4N and CNL. I'm fortunate to live on the East Coast,=20
    >> where there are a lot of "hobby greats". I can easily send an email and=
    =20
    >> have a roast beef sandwich with them at a small bar in PA, or visit them=
    =20
    >> at the Jersey Shore, or meet them in a farmer's field to dig up colonial=
    =20
    >> coins, or see them at a live Stack's Bowers auction, or bump into them=20
    >> at the ANS. But I also enjoy making calls to talk to them as far away=20
    >> as CA and FL and Canada.
    >> To change the direction of my rambling, I'd like to encourage you=20
    >> to personally try to do one thing to make your hobby better in 2014...=20
    >> maybe write an article (even if only a half a page), talk to a local=20
    >> coin club for 15 minutes about your colonial interests, exhibit some of=
    =20
    >> your coins and paper money, volunteer at the C4 convention. These are=20
    >> major contributions to the hobby and all are very fun to do. There are=20
    >> also very important, but seldom thought of, things you can do to=20
    >> support/encourage others. If there's an article written that you really=
    =20
    >> enjoyed - let the author know. If his/her contact info isn't with the=20
    >> article, then the editor can forward your email. Thank an author for=20
    >> writing a book you find useful and enjoy. If you like a particular=20
    >> website, click on the "contact webmaster" and let them know. If you=20
    >> enjoyed a speaker, an exhibit, a convention, a DVD... let the people=20
    >> responsible know. Most of these people in the hobby are doing what they=
    =20
    >> do for no monetary compensation, and a pat on the back goes a long way=20
    >> to encouraging them to continue.
    >> C4... What a great organization! In the front of every=20
    >> newsletter is the contact information for all the officers. Support=20
    >> them where you can. Make use of them too. If you think of something=20
    >> that can make C4 better, contact your region's VP, or any of the=20
    >> national officers. They are there to represent you; so suggesti=
    ons,=20
    >> complaints, compliments and volunteers are always welcome. Having not=20
    >> been an elected C4 officer for three years now, I try my best to support=
    =20
    >> those that are. It's fun to be a part of what's going on. You can be too=
    .
    >> I'll close with one of the most wonderful things that happened to=20
    >> me. At the C4 Convention, I purchased ten of the "Sentimental Tokens"=20
    >> from Byron Weston. They were all in nice/affordable condition. These=20
    >> tokens were issued in the 1770s by the Sentimental Magazine as a=20
    >> give-away for subscribers - maybe like a prize in a cereal box. They=20
    >> are nicely done copper tokens, engraved by Kirk. The complete set=20
    >> consists of 13 tokens, so I figured it was a set I could complete and do=
    =20
    >> so economically, with only three tokens to go. C4 friends found out=20
    >> what I had and two different friends gifted me the needed three! This=20
    >> was such an amazing gift I just had to share.
    >>=20
    >> To end, I want to encourage you all to make a New Years resolution to
    >> do something to contribute to the hobby. It'll be fun!
    >>=20
    >> Happy and Healthy New Year!
    >> Ray
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    =3Dutf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Hi Ishmael!!  A whale of a ta=
    le. R<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jan 2, 2014, at 5:10 PM, =
    "Will N"<<a href=3D"mailto:books@bowmanstonepress.com">books@bowmanstone=
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    <div style=3D"font-family: sans-serif;font-size: 14px;"><b>From: </b><a hre=
    f=3D"mailto:rogermoore435@yahoo.com">rogermoore435@yahoo.com</a><b><br>To: =
    </b>"<a href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoo=
    groups.com</a>" <<a href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colon=
    ial-coins@yahoogroups.com</a>><b><br>Sent: </b>Thu, Jan 2, 2014 22:04:26=
    GMT+00:00<b><br>Subject: </b>Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Happy New Year and=
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    <p></p><div>Sounds like a medical problem!!!  R<br><br>Sent from=
    my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jan 2, 2014, at 4:18 PM, marcus mayhugh <<a =
    href=3D"mailto:remi66111@yahoo.com">remi66111@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><=
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    veticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;fon=
    t-size:12pt;"><div><span>Earl is his title, not his name. His name was Rich=
    ard and they called him "Black Dick" Darn it, there I go again,the Cliff Cl=
    aven syndrome.</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size: 16p=
    x;font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida G=
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    2pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Thursday, Janu=
    ary 2, 2014 2:16 PM, Bruce Smith
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    rote:<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><div id=3D"yiv7391=
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    <div dir=3D"ltr">Here's a half penny.</div><div class=3D"yiv739183759=
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    il_extra"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv7391837594=
    gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Jeff Rock <span dir=3D"ltr">&l=
    t;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:rosaamltd@gmail.com"=
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    extra"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv7391837594gma=
    il_quote">On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 11:09 AM, John Louis <span dir=3D"ltr"><=
    ;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:johnwlouis@comcast.ne=
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    </div><div><font face=3D"Arial">OK, thank you.</font></div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial">General Howe went on to occupy the nation's capit=
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    thinking that this rebellion would come to an end. </font></div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial">He was the King of Philadelphia!</font></div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial">However, hostilities did not end. </font></div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial">Washington's army was still intact!</font></div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial">jwl</font></div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial"></font> </div>
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    tch:normal;"><b>From:</b>=20
    <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" title=3D"bhsmith325@gmail.com" ymailto=
    =3D"mailto:bhsmith325@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:bhsmith32=
    5@gmail.com">Bruce=20
    Smith</a> </div>
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    el=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" title=3D"colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" yma=
    ilto=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"ma=
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    AM</div>
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    Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Happy=20
    New Year and Ray rambling a bit - News from the Front!</div>
    <div><br clear=3D"none"></div><span> </span>=20
    <div>
    <div>
    </div><div dir=3D"ltr">That was all of the foreign report from that issue=
    of <i>The=20
    Sentimental. </i></div>
    <div class=3D"yiv7391837594gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"n=
    one">
    <div class=3D"yiv7391837594gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 10:28 PM, =
    John Louis <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=
    =3D"mailto:johnwlouis@comcast.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:johnwlo=
    uis@comcast.net">johnwlouis@comcast.net</a>></span> wrote:<br clear=3D"n=
    one">
    <blockquote class=3D"yiv7391837594gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left-color=
    :rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;"><u></u>
    <div><span> </span>=20
    <div>
    <div>
    <div>
    <div><u></u></div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial">This is excellent reading! The British had a =
    heck of a=20
    time sailing from New York around the New Jersey Cape and up the Chesap=
    eke.=20
    </font></div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial">I think they wanted to sail up the Deleware b=
    ut it=20
    didn't work out for them. Could you imagine trying to navigate 267 ship=
    s in=20
    unfamiliar waters?</font></div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial">After they landed in Maryland, I believe they=
    pushed=20
    forward and eventually captured Philadelphia after the battles of Brand=
    ywine=20
    and Chad's Ford.</font></div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial">I think there was something on the history ch=
    annel=20
    about Washington almost being killed during these engagements. (fact or=
    =20
    folklure?)</font></div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial">Bruce, do you have more of these articles? fr=
    om the=20
    same time period?</font></div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial">jwl</font></div>
    <div>
    <div>
    <div><font face=3D"Arial"></font> </div>
    <blockquote style=3D"border-left-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-left-width:2px=
    ;border-left-style:solid;">
    <div style=3D"font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;">----- Origi=
    nal Message ----- </div>
    <div style=3D"background:rgb(228,228,228);font-size-adjust:none;font-=
    stretch:normal;"><b>From:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" title=3D"b=
    hsmith325@gmail.com" ymailto=3D"mailto:bhsmith325@gmail.com" target=3D"_bla=
    nk" href=3D"mailto:bhsmith325@gmail.com">Bruce Smith</a> </div>

    <div style=3D"font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;"><b>To:</b> =
    <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" title=3D"colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com"=
    ymailto=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_blank" href=
    =3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins</a> </div>

    <div style=3D"font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;"><b>Sent:</b=
    > Wednesday, January 01, 2014=20
    9:21 PM</div>
    <div style=3D"font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;"><b>Subject:=
    </b> Re: [Colonial Numismatics]=20
    Happy New Year and Ray rambling a bit - News from the Front! [5=20
    Attachments]</div>
    <div><br clear=3D"none"></div><span> </span>=20
    <div>
    =20=20=20=20=20=20
    <div dir=3D"ltr">Happy New Year! Speaking of the <i>Sentimental Magaz=
    ine,=20
    </i>I received the catalog I mentioned earlier. Nothing numismatic po=
    pped=20
    out, but I haven't studied it carefully. I'm attaching scans of more =
    of=20
    the single issue that I do have. Included is a declaration from Howe=
    =20
    assuring all loyal colonists in PA and surrounding area that they won=
    't be=20
    molested, and offering forgiveness to any rebels who return to the fo=
    ld.=20
    There are excerpts from letters reporting on British action which mak=
    e=20
    good reading. Burgoyne reports on an a failed attempt to capture rebe=
    l=20
    cattle at Bennington. This is what the folks at home would have been=
    =20
    reading about what was going on here. It's pretty cool stuff.=20
    <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
    <div>I'll second what Ray said about sharing via a presentation to a =
    club.=20
    Even though I'm used to talking to 4th graders all day, I was a littl=
    e=20
    unsure of speaking to my club (Central Ohio Numismatic Association - =
    They=20
    were going to call it a Society but thought better of it). There are=
    =20
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