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From: Bruce Smith <bhsmith325@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Sentimental medelets
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It appears the magazine referred to them as medals. The link includes a
quote from *The Bath Journal *1773 giving the rationale for inclusion in
the series, but the person making the choice is not identified likely the
publisher?). I'm not a member of the "Coin People" forum, but I've applied
for membership so that I can ask the poster for further information.
http://www.coinpeople.com/index.php/topic/19411-sentimental-tokens-1773-to-=
1774-updated/
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Ray Williams <njraywms@optonline.net>wrote=
:
>
>
> Hi Bruce,
> Interesting articles. Thank you! I'm not really a medal collector
> but I do have a few. So I would ask if these Pieces struck for the
> Sentimental Magazine 1773-1775 are tokens, medalets or medals (I'm not su=
re
> what the difference is) or something else. It would be interesting to fi=
nd
> out the issue date of each of the 13 tokens. It would be too much to hop=
e
> for to find who selected the people to be honored on the tokens, and why.
> Ray
>
>
>
>
> On 1/18/2014 10:29 PM, Bruce Smith wrote:
>
> Evening all,
>
> York coins is offering a Cromwell token, and the web site states that it
> accompanied the Oct. 1773 issue of the magazine. I contacted Anthony Wils=
on
> (York Coins) to ask the source of that bit of information. He kindly
> replied with some links I'm posting here. The citation for the Cromwell
> token date, however, isn't in this material.
>
> First is a John Kirk biography from *The Dictionary of National
> Biography *Vol. XXXI
>
>
> http://books.google.com/books?id=3DxyQJAAAAIAAJ&pg=3DPA201&lpg=3DPA201&dq=
=3DGENTLEMENS++MAGAZINE+medalets&source=3Dbl&ots=3DWsf4Hz956d&sig=3D3xFnqap=
cU1zVvkobJcubsoJunRo&hl=3Den&sa=3DX&ei=3DH5fWUuTQNuahsQTEjoG4BQ&ved=3D0CEcQ=
6AEwBg#v=3Donepage&q=3DGENTLEMENS%20%20MAGAZINE%20medalets&f=3Dfalse
>
> Second is a letter published in *The Gentlemen's Magazine (*1797 vil.
> 81) discussing the collecting of various tokens including, in which he wa=
s
> responding to a letter published an earlier issue of the magazine, the Ki=
rk
> pieces. The writer makes reference to embossed cards that replaced the
> tokens.
> I wonder if any of those exist. Also in the letter is a reference to
> Spence leaving the coin business and transferring his dies to another
> dealer.
>
> http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=3Dinu.30000080773421;view=3D1up;se=
q=3D507
>
> Bruce
>
>
>
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>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">It appears the magazine referred to them as medals. The li=
nk includes a quote from <i>The Bath Journal </i>1773 giving the rationale =
for inclusion in the series, but the person making the choice is not identi=
fied likely the publisher?). I'm not a member of the "Coin People&=
quot; forum, but I've applied for membership so that I can ask the post=
er for further information.<div>
<br></div><div><a href=3D"http://www.coinpeople.com/index.php/topic/19411-s=
entimental-tokens-1773-to-1774-updated/">http://www.coinpeople.com/index.ph=
p/topic/19411-sentimental-tokens-1773-to-1774-updated/</a><br></div></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 1=
9, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Ray Williams <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:nj=
raywms@optonline.net" target=3D"_blank">njraywms@optonline.net</a>></spa=
n> wrote:<br>
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x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Hi Bruce,<br>
=A0=A0=A0 Interesting articles.=A0 Thank you!=A0 I'm not really a m=
edal
collector but I do have a few.=A0 So I would ask if these Pieces
struck for the Sentimental Magazine 1773-1775 are tokens, medalets
or medals (I'm not sure what the difference is) or something else.=
=A0
It would be interesting to find out the issue date of each of the 13
tokens.=A0 It would be too much to hope for to find who selected the
people to be honored on the tokens, and why.<br>
Ray</p><div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div>On 1/18/2014 10:29 PM, Bruce Smith
wrote:<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Evening all,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>York coins is offering a Cromwell token, and the web site
states that it accompanied the Oct. 1773 issue of the
magazine. I contacted Anthony Wilson (York Coins) to ask the
source of that bit of information. He kindly replied with some
links I'm posting here. The citation for the Cromwell token
date, however, isn't in this material.
<div>
<br>
</div>
<div>First is a John Kirk biography from <i>The Dictionary of
National Biography </i>Vol. XXXI</div>
<div><i><br>
</i></div>
<div><a href=3D"http://books.google.com/books?id=3DxyQJAAAAIAAJ&a=
mp;pg=3DPA201&lpg=3DPA201&dq=3DGENTLEMENS++MAGAZINE+medalets&so=
urce=3Dbl&ots=3DWsf4Hz956d&sig=3D3xFnqapcU1zVvkobJcubsoJunRo&hl=
=3Den&sa=3DX&ei=3DH5fWUuTQNuahsQTEjoG4BQ&ved=3D0CEcQ6AEwBg#v=3D=
onepage&q=3DGENTLEMENS%20%20MAGAZINE%20medalets&f=3Dfalse" target=
=3D"_blank">http://books.google.com/books?id=3DxyQJAAAAIAAJ&pg=3DPA201&=
amp;lpg=3DPA201&dq=3DGENTLEMENS++MAGAZINE+medalets&source=3Dbl&=
ots=3DWsf4Hz956d&sig=3D3xFnqapcU1zVvkobJcubsoJunRo&hl=3Den&sa=
=3DX&ei=3DH5fWUuTQNuahsQTEjoG4BQ&ved=3D0CEcQ6AEwBg#v=3Donepage&=
q=3DGENTLEMENS%20%20MAGAZINE%20medalets&f=3Dfalse</a><i><br>
</i></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Second is a letter published in=A0<i>The Gentlemen's
Magazine (</i>1797 vil. 81) discussing the collecting of
various tokens including, in which he was responding to a
letter published an earlier issue of the magazine, the Kirk
pieces. The writer makes reference to embossed cards that
replaced the tokens.</div>
<div>I wonder if any of those exist. Also in the letter is a
reference to Spence leaving the coin business and
transferring his dies to another dealer.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=3Dinu.30000=
080773421;view=3D1up;seq=3D507" target=3D"_blank">http://babel.hathitrust.o=
rg/cgi/pt?id=3Dinu.30000080773421;view=3D1up;seq=3D507</a><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Bruce</div>
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