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Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Continental Congress Question
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Hi Jeff,
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I think after all the communications I've had here and p=
rivately, I=20
suspect it was the threat of the British invading Philly that prompted=20
the Continental Congress to move to Baltimore, not something that was=20
really occurring.=C2=A0 I doubt that the move was because of health issues =
-=20
those seemed to occur during the warm weather months and this Exodus of=20
the Congress was in December.
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 What prompted my inquiry was Continental Currency being =
authorized=20
from the Continental Congress in Philly, then Baltimore, then Philly,=20
then Yorktown (York, PA), then Philly.=C2=A0
Ray
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
On Sat, Oct 03, 2015 at 03:12 AM, Rosa Americana rosaamltd@gmail.com=20
[colonial-coins] wrote:
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Ray, was there any health reason to do so? =C2=A0Yellow fever was prevalent=
=20
in some years, and th city would empty. =C2=A0Of course, communications wer=
e=20
spotty at best at th time, so the THREAT of an attack would be taken the=20
same as an actual one....and of all the people in the colonies the ones=20
who could NOT be captured would be the members of that Congress....else=20
all would have been lost.
Jeff
Sent from my iPad
On Oct 2, 2015, at 4:41 PM, Ray Williams njraywms@optonline.net=20
<mailto:njraywms@optonline.net> [colonial-coins]=20
<colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com <mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>=20
> wrote:
=C2=A0
Hi Guys,
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 In my search to find out why the Continental Congr=
ess was=20
threatened in Philly, resulting in their move to Baltimore...=C2=A0 I could=
=20
come up with no immediate threat!=C2=A0 But that's just me.=C2=A0 What does=
one do=20
when stumped and this chat group didn't come up with the answer...=C2=A0 I=
=20
emailed an inquiry to the person I know who knows the most about Rev War=20
battles - Erik Goldstein from Colonial Williamsburg.
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I find that when you are around colonial numismati=
cs for a little=20
while, you can't help but be interested in the history connected to your=20
coins, bills and medals from the period.=C2=A0 Many collectors of other=20
coinages can only say, "Isn't it pretty... Isn't it old...=C2=A0 Isn't it=20
rare...=C2=A0 Isn't it valuable...".=C2=A0 We on thenother hand can show co=
ins and=20
say, "This is the first coin bearing the motto 'E PLURIBUS UNUM'....=C2=A0=
=20
These are the first coins to bear the denomination
of Cent & Half Cent, and five years before the US made its coins...=C2=A0=
=20
These coins were made by the authority of the states, when the states=20
could strike their own coins...=C2=A0 This paper money helped finance the R=
ev=20
War..." and the other possibilities are endless.=C2=A0
Have fun today,
Ray
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
On Thu, Oct 01, 2015 at 08:21 PM, Ray Williams njraywms@optonline.net=20
<mailto:njraywms@optonline.net> [colonial-coins] wrote:
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0Thanks Mike,
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I found the Wikipedia page you read this on.=C2=A0=
I don't know where=20
the British were threatening Philadelphia in December 1776.=C2=A0 The Briti=
sh=20
& Hessians were in Trenton and Princeton until Washington's victory at=20
the Battle of Trenton on Christmas 1776.=C2=A0 With respect to the British=
=20
Navy...=C2=A0 I know they left Boston Harbor without a fight.=C2=A0 And the=
y were=20
soundly defeated in South Carolina at the battle of Fort Sullivan around=20
June 30, 1776.=C2=A0 I wasn't aware of the British Navy threatening=20
Philadelphia from any direction.=C2=A0 So I need to look into the Navy's=20
operations around December 1776.
Thanks Mike
Ray
=C2=A0
On Thu, Oct 01, 2015 at 06:06 PM, Michael Packard mpackard3@mac.com=20
<mailto:mpackard3@mac.com> [colonial-coins] wrote:
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Per Wikipedia: =C2=A0The Second Continental Congress moved from Philadelphi=
a=20
to Baltimore in the winter of 1776 to avoid capture by British forces,=20
who were advancing on Philadelphia, the new American capital city, after=20
having sailed up the Chesapeake Bay from newly conquered New York City=20
making a feint towards, but bypassing Maryland's newest large town, and=20
landing to the northeast at the "Head of Elk". As the largest building=20
then in forty-seven-year-old Baltimore Town, Henry Fite's tavern=20
provided a comfortable location of sufficient size for Congress to meet;=20
its site at the western edge of town was beyond easy reach of the=20
British Royal Navy's ships should they try to sail up the Harbor and the=20
Patapsco River to shell the town.=C2=A0
On Oct 01, 2015, at 05:21 PM, "Ray Williams njraywms@optonline.net=20
<mailto:njraywms@optonline.net> [colonial-coins]"=20
<colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com <mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>=20
>
wrote:
=C2=A0
Hi guys,
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Below are the dates for the movement of the Contin=
ental Congress=20
from Philadelphia to Baltimore and back again.=C2=A0 My question is...=C2=
=A0 why=20
did the Continental Congress move?=C2=A0 I can see why they moved to=20
Lancaster and York, PA when the British occupied Philadelphia, but why=20
did they move to Baltimore for a couple months?
Anyone?
Thanks
Ray
=C2=A0=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
=C2=A0
1776
* December 12: Congress adjourns in Philadelphia to move=20
to=C2=A0Baltimore, Maryland=20
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltimore,_Maryland>
* December 20: Congress convenes in=C2=A0Baltimore=20
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltimore,_Maryland> =C2=A0at the=C2=A0Henry=
Fite=20
House <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Fite_House> =C2=A0
1777=C2=A0
* February 27: Congress adjourns in Baltimore to
return
to Philadelphia
* March 4: Congress reconvenes at Philadelphia's State House
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Hi Jeff,</div><div> I think after all the communications =
I've had here and privately, I suspect it was the threat of the British inv=
ading Philly that prompted the Continental Congress to move to Baltimore, n=
ot something that was really occurring. I doubt that the move was bec=
ause of health issues - those seemed to occur during the warm weather month=
s and this Exodus of the Congress was in December.</div><div> &n=
bsp; What prompted my inquiry was Continental Currency being authorized fro=
m the Continental Congress in Philly, then Baltimore, then Philly, then Yor=
ktown (York, PA), then Philly. </div><div>Ray</div><div style=3D"font=
-family: Verdana;"><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div>On Sa=
t, Oct 03, 2015 at 03:12 AM, Rosa Americana rosaamltd@gmail.com [colonial-c=
oins] wrote:<div> </div><div> </div><blockquote style=3D"margin: =
0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(136, 136, 136)=
; border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid;">
<br><br>
<div>Ray, was there any health reason to do so? Yellow fever was prev=
alent in some years, and th city would empty. Of course, communicatio=
ns were spotty at best at th time, so the THREAT of an attack would be take=
n the same as an actual one....and of all the people in the colonies the on=
es who could NOT be captured would be the members of that Congress....else =
all would have been lost.</div><div><br></div><div>Jeff<br><br>Sent from my=
iPad</div><div><br>On Oct 2, 2015, at 4:41 PM, Ray Williams <a href=3D"mai=
lto:njraywms@optonline.net">njraywms@optonline.net</a> [colonial-coins] <=
;<a href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogrou=
ps.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>
=20
<span style=3D"display: none;"> </span>
<div id=3D"ygrp-text">
=20=20=20=20=20=20
=20=20=20=20=20=20
<p>Hi Guys,</p><div> In my search to find out=
why the Continental Congress was threatened in Philly, resulting in their =
move to Baltimore... I could come up with no immediate threat! =
But that's just me. What does one do when stumped and this chat group=
didn't come up with the answer... I emailed an inquiry to the person=
I know who knows the most about Rev War battles - Erik Goldstein from Colo=
nial Williamsburg.</div><div> I find that when you =
are around colonial numismatics for a little while, you can't help but be i=
nterested in the history connected to your coins, bills and medals from the=
period. Many collectors of other coinages can only say, "Isn't it pr=
etty... Isn't it old... Isn't it rare... Isn't it valuable...".=
We on thenother hand can show coins and say, "This is the first coin=
bearing the motto 'E PLURIBUS UNUM'.... These are the first coins to=
bear the denomination
of Cent & Half Cent, and five years before the US made its coins...&nb=
sp; These coins were made by the authority of the states, when the states c=
ould strike their own coins... This paper money helped finance the Re=
v War..." and the other possibilities are endless. </div><div>Have fu=
n today,</div><div>Ray</div><div style=3D"font-family: Verdana;"><div> =
;</div><div> </div><div> </div>On Thu, Oct 01, 2015 at 08:21 PM, =
Ray Williams <a href=3D"mailto:njraywms@optonline.net">njraywms@optonline.n=
et</a> [colonial-coins] wrote:<div> </div><div> </div><blockquote=
style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left-color: rgb(136, 136, 136);=
border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid;">
<br><br>
<div style=3D"font-family: Verdana;"><div> </div><div> Thanks Mik=
e,</div><div> I found the Wikipedia page you read t=
his on. I don't know where the British were threatening Philadelphia =
in December 1776. The British & Hessians were in Trenton and Prin=
ceton until Washington's victory at the Battle of Trenton on Christmas 1776=
. With respect to the British Navy... I know they left Boston H=
arbor without a fight. And they were soundly defeated in South Caroli=
na at the battle of Fort Sullivan around June 30, 1776. I wasn't awar=
e of the British Navy threatening Philadelphia from any direction. So=
I need to look into the Navy's operations around December 1776.</div><div>=
Thanks Mike</div><div>Ray</div><div> </div>On Thu, Oct 01, 2015 at 06:=
06 PM, Michael Packard <a href=3D"mailto:mpackard3@mac.com">mpackard3@mac.c=
om</a> [colonial-coins] wrote:<div> </div><div> </div><blockquote=
style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left-color: rgb(136, 136, 136);=
border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid;">
<br><br>
<div>Per Wikipedia: The Second Continental Congress moved from Philad=
elphia to Baltimore in the winter of 1776 to avoid capture by British force=
s, who were advancing on Philadelphia, the new American capital city, after=
having sailed up the Chesapeake Bay from newly conquered New York City mak=
ing a feint towards, but bypassing Maryland's newest large town, and landin=
g to the northeast at the "Head of Elk". As the largest building then in fo=
rty-seven-year-old Baltimore Town, Henry Fite's tavern provided a comfortab=
le location of sufficient size for Congress to meet; its site at the wester=
n edge of town was beyond easy reach of the British Royal Navy's ships shou=
ld they try to sail up the Harbor and the Patapsco River to shell the town.=
</div><div><br>On Oct 01, 2015, at 05:21 PM, "Ray Williams <a href=3D=
"mailto:njraywms@optonline.net">njraywms@optonline.net</a> [colonial-coins]=
" <<a href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yaho=
ogroups.com</a>>
wrote:<br><br></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"msg-quote=
" style=3D"background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" data=3D"background-color:=
#fff;"><span data=3D"display: none;"> </span><div id=3D"ygrp-mlmsg" d=
ata=3D"position: relative;"><div id=3D"ygrp-msg" data=3D"z-index: 1;"><div =
id=3D"ygrp-text"><p>Hi guys,</p><div> Below are the=
dates for the movement of the Continental Congress from Philadelphia to Ba=
ltimore and back again. My question is... why did the Continent=
al Congress move? I can see why they moved to Lancaster and York, PA =
when the British occupied Philadelphia, but why did they move to Baltimore =
for a couple months?</div><div>Anyone?</div><div>Thanks</div><div>Ray</div>=
<div> </div><div> </div><div> </div>=
<div>1776</div><div><ul style=3D"margin: 0.3em 0px 0px 1.6em; padding: 0px;=
color: rgb(37, 37, 37); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spa=
cing: normal; word-spacing: 0px; list-style-type: disc; white-space: normal=
; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" data=3D"margin: 0.3em 0px 0px 1.6e=
m; padding: 0px; color: #252525; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; le=
tter-spacing: normal; word-spacing: 0px; list-style-type: disc; white-space=
: normal; background-color: #ffffff;"><li style=3D"margin-bottom: 0.1em;" d=
ata=3D"margin-bottom: 0.1em;">December 12: Congress adjourns in Philadelphi=
a to move to<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title=3D"=
Baltimore, Maryland" class=3D"mw-redirect" style=3D"background: none; color=
: rgb(11, 0, 128); text-decoration: none;" href=3D"https://en.wikipedia.org=
/wiki/Baltimore,_Maryland" target=3D"_blank" data=3D"background: none; colo=
r: #0b0080; text-decoration: none;">Baltimore, Maryland</a></li><li style=
=3D"margin-bottom: 0.1em;" data=3D"margin-bottom: 0.1em;">December 20: Cong=
ress convenes in<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title=
=3D"Baltimore, Maryland" class=3D"mw-redirect" style=3D"background: none; c=
olor: rgb(11, 0, 128); text-decoration: none;" href=3D"https://en.wikipedia=
.org/wiki/Baltimore,_Maryland" target=3D"_blank" data=3D"background: none; =
color: #0b0080; text-decoration: none;">Baltimore</a><span class=3D"Apple-c=
onverted-space"> </span>at the<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&n=
bsp;</span><a title=3D"Henry Fite House" style=3D"background: none; color: =
rgb(11, 0, 128); text-decoration: none;" href=3D"https://en.wikipedia.org/w=
iki/Henry_Fite_House" target=3D"_blank" data=3D"background: none; color: #0=
b0080; text-decoration: none;">Henry Fite House</a> </li></ul><dl styl=
e=3D"color: rgb(37, 37, 37); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter=
-spacing: normal; margin-top: 0.2em; margin-bottom: 0.5em; word-spacing: 0p=
x; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" data=3D"colo=
r: #252525; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal;=
margin-top: 0.2em; margin-bottom: 0.5em; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: n=
ormal; background-color: #ffffff;"><dt style=3D"font-weight: bold; margin-b=
ottom: 0.1em;" data=3D"font-weight: bold; margin-bottom: 0.1em;">1777 =
</dt></dl><ul style=3D"margin: 0.3em 0px 0px 1.6em; padding: 0px; color: rg=
b(37, 37, 37); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: norm=
al; word-spacing: 0px; list-style-type: disc; white-space: normal; backgrou=
nd-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" data=3D"margin: 0.3em 0px 0px 1.6em; padding=
: 0px; color: #252525; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spaci=
ng: normal; word-spacing: 0px; list-style-type: disc; white-space: normal; =
background-color: #ffffff;"><li style=3D"margin-bottom: 0.1em;" data=3D"mar=
gin-bottom: 0.1em;">February 27: Congress adjourns in Baltimore to
return
to Philadelphia</li><li style=3D"margin-bottom: 0.1em;" data=3D"margin-bot=
tom: 0.1em;">March 4: Congress reconvenes at Philadelphia's State House</li=
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