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Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Coin Envelope Format?
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Thanks=C2=A0Will, there are hundreds of coin collecting=C2=A0programs =C2=
=A0for federal but one for colonial I have never seen, I thought of maybe a=
n access=C2=A0database one but like you say a web page=C2=A0one is much=C2=
=A0easier for us self taught computer gumbys.we all have a little different=
focus so perhaps=C2=A0the spreadsheet approach is the ticket....I am inter=
ested in how others catalogtheir collectionspaul
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From: "Will Nipper books@bowmanstonepress.com [colonial-coins]" <colo=
nial-coins@yahoogroups.com>
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Sent: Monday, October 5, 2015 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Coin Envelope Format?
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=C2=A0 Paul, On my phone it's just a free gallery app from the app store.=
There are several. Hard part is photographing.=C2=A0 The spreadsheet is a =
little more complicated. I'm not familiar with mobile app development tools=
, but I'm sure you could create a website that does the basics fairly easil=
y. I just chose to do it in Excel cause I know it better than I know web de=
v tools. Will
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"Paul Cartmill cartmill_paul@yahoo.com [colonial-coins]" <colonial-coins@ya=
hoogroups.com> wrote:
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Will you should be selling that an an Iphone app, were we lesser mortals c=
ould enter our own coins I'd buy it and you could have all that money to bu=
y new coinspaul
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From: "books@bowmanstonepress.com [colonial-coins]" <colonial-coins@y=
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Sent: Monday, October 5, 2015 9:22 AM
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My email crashed while sending a note, so you may get two very similar ones=
from me as I retype. =C2=A0Sorry.Syd,Your notes have some excellent sugges=
tions for things I'm not including but should. =C2=A0And your comment about=
a spreadsheet reminded me of a few other things I do, butforgot to mention=
.1. I have about 2/3 of my colonial-era coins and paper photographed. Need =
to do the rest, and photograph my federal collection. But, what I do have p=
hotographed, I have on my smart phone, in chronological order. =C2=A0Great =
for taking to coin shows, etc. =C2=A02.Iwrote a macro-driven Excel workbook=
with categories based on Lou Jordan's Notre Dame site, with a few added. =
=C2=A0You click on a category and it lists subcategories. =C2=A0Click on a =
sub-category and it brings up thumbnails of my coins and paper in the sub-c=
ategory. =C2=A0Click on a thumbnail andit brings up an enlarged pic. (See a=
ttached) =C2=A0As an aside, our local coin club has quarterly auctions. =C2=
=A0We are about to introduce a variation of this spreadsheet that will proj=
ect images of the current lot, latest bid, etc., and keep up with who bough=
t what, print lot tickets, etc. - likethe big guys - well, sort of. =C2=A0 =
=C2=A03. I, too, keep a detailed spreadsheet, but am WAY behind updating it=
.Best,Will=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
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Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Coin Envelope Format?
From: "Sydney Martin sfmartin5@comcast.net [colonial-coins]" <colonial-coin=
s@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, October 5, 2015 9:54 am
To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
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> All my weights are in grains. I do use to same basic format for all my co=
ins. Sometimes if there is something unusual about the coin (e.g., "clip, s=
traight edge) I'll not it on the center of the front. Syd
>
> On Oct 5, 2015, at 9:46 AM, Ray Williams njraywms@optonline.net [colonial=
-coins] wrote:
>
>> Thanks Syd,
>>
>> You seem to have everything shown on your envelope. Do you use the same =
format for all your coin envelopes? I haven't used the reverse and I think =
it serves my purpose to do so. I personally like to see colonials given wei=
ght measurements in grains rather than grams. The originallegislations for =
coinage used grains for weight. I just don't know what a gram is. When some=
one says a coin weighs 134 grains, I know in my mind how heavy it is.
>> Thanks for sharing Syd
>> Ray
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>> On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 09:28 AM, Sydney Martin sfmartin5@comcast.net [c=
olonial-coins] wrote:
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>> Ray: I keep my coins in 2x2 white envelopes with separate cotton liners.=
They look like:
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>> The upper left of the front contains basic identifier info: type, denomi=
nation, date, metrology (weight, x-axis diameter, die rotation). The upper =
right provides the primary identification number and (if known) the accepte=
d rarity. The lower left corner provides any appropriate secondaryidentifia=
tion number(s). The lower right has my accession number (which is important=
). The reverse has provenance data at the bottom and, if I have supplementa=
ry data, a star at the top.
>>
>> If I have supplementary data (earlier lot tickets, envelopes, provenance=
data, auction descriptions, etc.) I keep it in a No. 6 envelope with the s=
ame accession number at the upper right. These I keep in a special file.
>>
>> I have an excel spread sheet, again keyed to the accession number, that =
provides a detailed description of the coin, it's grade, rarity, date purch=
ased, from whom/where purchased, and purchase price. If there is secondary =
data, a separate column contains an "X".
>>
>> It seems to work.
>>
>> Syd
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>> I keep all supplementary info (earlier lot tickets, auction descriptions=
, provenance data, etc.) in a separate No. 6 envelope with th
>> On Oct 4, 2015, at 4:44 PM, Ray Williams njraywms@optonline.net [colonia=
l-coins] wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi guys!
>>> I have hopes in the next 12 months to photograph my collection,
>>> weigh and measure each coin, die axis and such too. In the process, I
>>> want to label my envelopes to a standard format that includes the
>>> important data about the coin. I want to do it once and for ever. Can
>>> anyone share an image of one of their typical envelopes so that I and
>>> others can get an idea of what others do?
>>> Ray
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_4284">Thanks Will, there are hundreds of coin collecting program=
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span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> colonial-coins@yahoogroups=
.com <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, Oc=
tober 5, 2015 3:19 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</s=
pan></b> Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Coin Envelope Format?<br> </font> </div=
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_3_16_0_1_1444092980290_4312">Paul, On my phone it's just a free gallery ap=
p from the app store. There are several. Hard part is photographing. =
The spreadsheet is a little more complicated. I'm not familiar with mobile =
app development tools, but I'm sure you could create a website that does th=
e basics fairly easily. I just chose to do it in Excel cause I know it bett=
er than I know web dev tools. Will</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14440929802=
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ess 4G LTE DROID</i></font></div></div><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none=
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ns@yahoogroups.com> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">
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id=3D"yiv1455128643yui_3_16_0_1_1444076648173_6481">Will you should be sel=
ling that an an Iphone app, were we lesser mortals could enter our own coin=
s I'd buy it and you could have all that money to buy new coins</div><div i=
d=3D"yiv1455128643yui_3_16_0_1_1444076648173_6480">paul<br clear=3D"none">&=
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an style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, October 5, 2015 9:=
22 AM<br clear=3D"none"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</sp=
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My email crashed while sending a note, so you may get two very similar ones=
from me as I retype. Sorry.</div><div id=3D"yiv1455128643yui_3_16_0_=
1_1444076648173_6492">Syd,</div><div>Your notes have some excellent suggest=
ions for things I'm not including but should. And your comment about =
a spreadsheet reminded me of a few other things I do, but
forgot to mention.</div><div id=3D"yiv1455128643yui_3_16_0_1_1444076648173_=
6494">1. I have about 2/3 of my colonial-era coins and paper photographed. =
Need to do the rest, and photograph my federal collection. But, what I do h=
ave photographed, I have on my smart phone, in chronological order. G=
reat for taking to coin shows, etc. </div><div>2.I
wrote a macro-driven Excel workbook with categories based on Lou Jordan's N=
otre Dame site, with a few added. You click on a category and it list=
s subcategories. Click on a sub-category and it brings up thumbnails =
of my coins and paper in the sub-category. Click on a thumbnail and
it brings up an enlarged pic. (See attached) As an aside, our local c=
oin club has quarterly auctions. We are about to introduce a variatio=
n of this spreadsheet that will project images of the current lot, latest b=
id, etc., and keep up with who bought what, print lot tickets, etc. - like
the big guys - well, sort of. </div><div>3. I, too, keep a det=
ailed spreadsheet, but am WAY behind updating it.</div><div>Best,</div><div=
>Will</div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div><br clea=
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> All my weights are in grains. I do use to same basic format for all my=
coins. Sometimes if there is something unusual about the coin (e.g., "clip=
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> On Oct 5, 2015, at 9:46 AM, Ray Williams njraywms@optonline.net [colon=
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>> You seem to have everything shown on your envelope. Do you use the=
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think it serves my purpose to do so. I personally like to see colonials giv=
en weight measurements in grains rather than grams. The original
legislations for coinage used grains for weight. I just don't know what a g=
ram is. When someone says a coin weighs 134 grains, I know in my mind how h=
eavy it is.<br clear=3D"none">>> Thanks for sharing Syd<br clear=3D"n=
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