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Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Ray Rambling about Early Copper modern
counterfeits
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Jack,
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Thank you for the concise summary about what is ha=
ppening.=C2=A0
Ray
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On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 04:48 PM, burfle23@yahoo.com [colonial-coins]=20
wrote:
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I actually received the PCGS pics last Friday; 11 total early copper=20
counterfeits caught in a submission. 2 half cents and 9 early lc's- pics=20
posted on Copper Notes Facebook page; submission also included various=20
silver "coins" thrown in. I intend to follow up with my contact there=20
and verify if there were any Colonials.
The EAC group has documented 5 counterfeit 1798 "S-158's", all in slabs=20
(3 NGC, 1 PCGS, 1 ICG), and 3 counterfeit 1803 "half cents", all in NGC=20
slabs. The 1803 "source" coin was found to be an NGC slabbed example=20
sold last year in a Goldberg auction- all carry the same "circulation"=20
marks (scratches in the same place, die chips, etc. that aren't=20
associated with die states) as the key attribution points. It becomes=20
more obvious when you have a couple to examine together than just a=20
single example. My example "S-158" was raw and passed through some very=20
experienced EAC'ers as genuine in
hand; very deceptive!
Best,
Jack
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<div style=3D"font-family: Verdana;"><div>Jack,</div><div> =
; Thank you for the concise summary about what is happening. </d=
iv><div>Ray</div><div> </div><div> </div>On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at =
04:48 PM, burfle23@yahoo.com [colonial-coins] wrote:<div> </div><div>&=
nbsp;</div><blockquote style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1e=
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ft-style: solid;">
<br><br>
I actually received the PCGS pics last Friday; 11 total early copper counte=
rfeits caught in a submission. 2 half cents and 9 early lc's- pics posted o=
n Copper Notes Facebook page; submission also included various silver "coin=
s" thrown in. I intend to follow up with my contact there and verify if the=
re were any Colonials.<br><br>The EAC group has documented 5 counterfeit 17=
98 "S-158's", all in slabs (3 NGC, 1 PCGS, 1 ICG), and 3 counterfeit 1803 "=
half cents", all in NGC slabs. The 1803 "source" coin was found to be an NG=
C slabbed example sold last year in a Goldberg auction- all carry the same =
"circulation" marks (scratches in the same place, die chips, etc. that aren=
't associated with die states) as the key attribution points. It becomes mo=
re obvious when you have a couple to examine together than just a single ex=
ample. My example "S-158" was raw and passed through some very experienced =
EAC'ers as genuine in
hand; very deceptive!<br><br>Best,<br><br>Jack
<br>
<br>
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