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    Actually there are three sides to every coin, and you would do well to look
    at them all.

    Clem

    -----Original Message-----
    From: William Smith [mailto:nutmeg06093@yahoo.com]
    Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:11 PM
    To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Grading

    I also think that a grade is essential to each side, often times they are
    congruent, but often times, they are not, especially in the colonial world.

    When the issue is 'condition census,' I would argue that condition is the
    average grade of two sides, or net grade, e.g., using the 70 point scale,
    (XF 40+ VF 20)/2 = VF 30 net.
    But, because grading standards and measurements can be very subjective,
    this is all academic to the credence buy it if you like it.

    After all, there are two sides to every coin/story.

    Robert Laviana



    --- Original Message -----
    From: Steve <mailto:taxi_steve929@yahoo.com>
    To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com <mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 12:21 PM
    Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Grading

    Does anyone agree with me that grades should always be split Obv/Rev
    as opposed to ONLY one grade for the entire coin.....I could own a
    coin with a perfect mint state obverse that someone took a nail to on
    the reverse....this coin could be light years better on the obverse
    than the highest condition census coin but because of the reverse
    damage, people have to look at an inferior obverse as the number one
    coin. (which it is overall, but not taken seperately)

    steve


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    Message-----<br>
    <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> William Smith
    [mailto:nutmeg06093@yahoo.com]<br>
    <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, January 06, 2=
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    5:11 PM<br>
    <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> colonial-coins@yahoogrou=
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    <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Colonial
    Numismatics] Grading</span></font></p>

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